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dhardie
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softdesk-adcadd

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08-26-2005 07:14 AM
I know I may sound like I'm from this generation but can you guy help me find some info on the softdesk-adcadd history.
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dhardie
Posts: 11
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Re: softdesk-adcadd

08-26-2005 07:23 AM in reply to: dhardie
I meant "not" from this generation.
*Jeff Mishler
Message 3 of 7 (437 Views)

Re: softdesk-adcadd

08-26-2005 11:17 PM in reply to: dhardie
Well, I'm no expert but I've been a user since c.1987. Here is a very brief
breakdown, all taken completely from memory...dates, events, names may well
be incorrect and I apologize in advance for any mis-information.

The first incarnation I saw was designed on Acad 2.6 and was created by an
engineering firm in Henniker, NH named DCA Engineering. The product was
called, oddly enough, DCA Civil Software. It was made up entirely of lisp
routines.

DCA had some legal issues with the name already being used by another
software company so a new name was introduced around 1990-91. This new name
was ADCADD. This was still mainly lisp routines, but I think that the
DTM/Earthwork functions utilized external EXE files.

The first Softdesk came out to replace ADCADD around R13. I do not recall
why the name changed this time. Softdesk8 was released with Acad14 and was
to be used by many for years to come. (I know some offices that STILL use
it)

Enter Autodesk purchasing the Softdesk product line from the DCA folks. I
believe that all incarnations of the LandDesktop were developed under the
Autodesk umbrella, although many of the original Softdesk commands, blocks,
variables and labels remained at least through LandDesktop3. This is the
last version I've had any first hand experience with.

Is that kind of what you were looking for? If anyone has any input for
errors or clarification, feel free to post it.

Jeff

wrote in message news:4939951@discussion.autodesk.com...
I know I may sound like I'm from this generation but can you guy help me
find some info on the softdesk-adcadd history.
*Allen Jessup
Message 4 of 7 (437 Views)

Re: softdesk-adcadd

08-29-2005 06:06 AM in reply to: dhardie
DCA = David C. Arnold. I believe that Softdesk was simply a way to tie their
name more closely with Autodesk.

There are still many traces of the original program in LDT. The fact that
the programming is so old is one of the reasons Autodesk has abandoned LDT
and has written a new civil program; Civil 3D.

Ironically Hasteads was recently bought by Bentley but they almost merged
with Softdesk. The strong personalities of both owners was one of the main
reasons this never happened.

Allen

"Jeff Mishler" wrote in message
news:4940782@discussion.autodesk.com...
Well, I'm no expert but I've been a user since c.1987. Here is a very brief
breakdown, all taken completely from memory...dates, events, names may well
be incorrect and I apologize in advance for any mis-information.

The first incarnation I saw was designed on Acad 2.6 and was created by an
engineering firm in Henniker, NH named DCA Engineering. The product was
called, oddly enough, DCA Civil Software. It was made up entirely of lisp
routines.

DCA had some legal issues with the name already being used by another
software company so a new name was introduced around 1990-91. This new name
was ADCADD. This was still mainly lisp routines, but I think that the
DTM/Earthwork functions utilized external EXE files.

The first Softdesk came out to replace ADCADD around R13. I do not recall
why the name changed this time. Softdesk8 was released with Acad14 and was
to be used by many for years to come. (I know some offices that STILL use
it)

Enter Autodesk purchasing the Softdesk product line from the DCA folks. I
believe that all incarnations of the LandDesktop were developed under the
Autodesk umbrella, although many of the original Softdesk commands, blocks,
variables and labels remained at least through LandDesktop3. This is the
last version I've had any first hand experience with.

Is that kind of what you were looking for? If anyone has any input for
errors or clarification, feel free to post it.

Jeff

wrote in message news:4939951@discussion.autodesk.com...
I know I may sound like I'm from this generation but can you guy help me
find some info on the softdesk-adcadd history.
*Daniel J. Altamura, R.A.
Message 5 of 7 (437 Views)

Re: softdesk-adcadd

08-29-2005 09:35 AM in reply to: dhardie
Don't forget ASG in the mix. I believe it was originally called AEC
something. ASG bought out the Vertex Detailer, then I think Softdesk bought
ASG. There were other buy-outs and mergers. Someone must know the entire
history.

--
Daniel J. Altamura, R.A.
Altamura Architectural Consulting
and SoftWorx, Autodesk Authorized Developer
http://partnerproducts.autodesk.com/popups/company.asp?rdid=2139
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


"Jeff Mishler" wrote in message
news:4940782@discussion.autodesk.com...
Well, I'm no expert but I've been a user since c.1987. Here is a very brief
breakdown, all taken completely from memory...dates, events, names may well
be incorrect and I apologize in advance for any mis-information.

The first incarnation I saw was designed on Acad 2.6 and was created by an
engineering firm in Henniker, NH named DCA Engineering. The product was
called, oddly enough, DCA Civil Software. It was made up entirely of lisp
routines.

DCA had some legal issues with the name already being used by another
software company so a new name was introduced around 1990-91. This new name
was ADCADD. This was still mainly lisp routines, but I think that the
DTM/Earthwork functions utilized external EXE files.

The first Softdesk came out to replace ADCADD around R13. I do not recall
why the name changed this time. Softdesk8 was released with Acad14 and was
to be used by many for years to come. (I know some offices that STILL use
it)

Enter Autodesk purchasing the Softdesk product line from the DCA folks. I
believe that all incarnations of the LandDesktop were developed under the
Autodesk umbrella, although many of the original Softdesk commands, blocks,
variables and labels remained at least through LandDesktop3. This is the
last version I've had any first hand experience with.

Is that kind of what you were looking for? If anyone has any input for
errors or clarification, feel free to post it.

Jeff
*Allen Jessup
Message 6 of 7 (437 Views)

Re: softdesk-adcadd

08-29-2005 10:06 AM in reply to: dhardie
I think I know someone who knows most if not all. But at $250.00 per hour I
would hesitate to ask : )

; "R.A." wrote in message
news:4941649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Don't forget ASG in the mix. I believe it was originally called AEC
something. ASG bought out the Vertex Detailer, then I think Softdesk bought
ASG. There were other buy-outs and mergers. Someone must know the entire
history.

--
Daniel J. Altamura, R.A.
Altamura Architectural Consulting
and SoftWorx, Autodesk Authorized Developer
http://partnerproducts.autodesk.com/popups/company.asp?rdid=2139
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


"Jeff Mishler" wrote in message
news:4940782@discussion.autodesk.com...
Well, I'm no expert but I've been a user since c.1987. Here is a very brief
breakdown, all taken completely from memory...dates, events, names may well
be incorrect and I apologize in advance for any mis-information.

The first incarnation I saw was designed on Acad 2.6 and was created by an
engineering firm in Henniker, NH named DCA Engineering. The product was
called, oddly enough, DCA Civil Software. It was made up entirely of lisp
routines.

DCA had some legal issues with the name already being used by another
software company so a new name was introduced around 1990-91. This new name
was ADCADD. This was still mainly lisp routines, but I think that the
DTM/Earthwork functions utilized external EXE files.

The first Softdesk came out to replace ADCADD around R13. I do not recall
why the name changed this time. Softdesk8 was released with Acad14 and was
to be used by many for years to come. (I know some offices that STILL use
it)

Enter Autodesk purchasing the Softdesk product line from the DCA folks. I
believe that all incarnations of the LandDesktop were developed under the
Autodesk umbrella, although many of the original Softdesk commands, blocks,
variables and labels remained at least through LandDesktop3. This is the
last version I've had any first hand experience with.

Is that kind of what you were looking for? If anyone has any input for
errors or clarification, feel free to post it.

Jeff
Distinguished Contributor
joeself
Posts: 297
Registered: ‎11-30-2003
Message 7 of 7 (437 Views)

Re: softdesk-adcadd

08-30-2005 06:19 AM in reply to: dhardie
AEC Architectural, AEC Mechanical for MEP and I believe it was from Autodesk, at least that's what the dealer told us. Ran this on R10. It was pretty sweet.

Moved to new palce and used Softdesk 7 & R13. Stayed on it til I had to leave. Never had the hrdware to run BS.

Using Vanilla 2005 now and i miss it.

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