in/out "boards"

[Anonymous]

as our small firm grows, the need for a way to keep track of who's in and
out is becoming more prominent. what solutions are any of you using? is
there something already in windows? or is a third party tool required?

thanks for any help-

jjd

[Anonymous]

Thats all very well, but we are a big company, and have overall IT, local IT and people like me, Local IT cannot change these permissions, overall IT say its a local issue, and wont change his permissions as that setting is against their policys. basically its one huge buck passing excercise, so that we will probably get the solution applied 3 months after he has left us.
With anything CAD related, I have to explain to my local IT, who then explain to central IT, who then implement what little their operator understands (badly) so at the end of the day something that just about worked, stops working and I have to start the cycle again.
It took me 4 attempts just to get our plotters set on a standard paper size by default when you first accessed them, who wants hagaki card as a default size on a 42" plotter, I will ask our local IT about Lockouts, they may have still have a back door to set that up on the QT.

[Anonymous]

Gotta love IT with no real cad experience playing overlords on the cad guys.
;)

Matt

[Anonymous]

Yeah - so we dont need admin rights to run CAD do we (well its says on the box XP compatible with standard rights)!!!

[Anonymous]

Ya'll just screw something up anyway. 😉


wrote in message news:4847506@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yeah - so we dont need admin rights to run CAD do we (well its says on the
box XP compatible with standard rights)!!!

[Anonymous]

Hm. It seems that your IT guys suck.

Anyone in an IT position who would put up with this kind of behaviour for more
than 5 minutes - when it is so EASILY fixed - should find another job, because
if they cannot find it in themselves to make this minor tweak, then I fear for
the appropriate safety of your corporate data as a whole.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com


On Tue, 17 May 2005 14:21:41 +0000, Grendel <> wrote:

>Thats all very well, but we are a big company, and have overall IT, local IT and people like me, Local IT cannot change these permissions, overall IT say its a local issue, and wont change his permissions as that setting is against their policys. basically its one huge buck passing excercise, so that we will probably get the solution applied 3 months after he has left us.
>With anything CAD related, I have to explain to my local IT, who then explain to central IT, who then implement what little their operator understands (badly) so at the end of the day something that just about worked, stops working and I have to start the cycle again.
>It took me 4 attempts just to get our plotters set on a standard paper size by default when you first accessed them, who wants hagaki card as a default size on a 42" plotter, I will ask our local IT about Lockouts, they may have still have a back door to set that up on the QT.

[Anonymous]

Don't worry, Bush and the new world order cronies such as Applied Digital
have a "Digital Angel" [1] in-out tracking solution all ready to go...

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://www.infowars.com/microchips.html


"jd-drafter" wrote in message
news:4842096@discussion.autodesk.com...
as our small firm grows, the need for a way to keep track of who's in and
out is becoming more prominent. what solutions are any of you using? is
there something already in windows? or is a third party tool required?

thanks for any help-

jjd

[Anonymous]

Its more a case of the huge amounts of paperwork to achieve the 'tweak', it would have to be submitted, cleared, submitted furtherup, justified, cleared etc etc. sometimes its just too much hassle. I personally believe our IT have us over a barrel and are tying our hands, I dont fear the safety of the corporate data, what I fear is that we wont be able to get to it when we need it (well quickly anyway). At the moment a single user problem is a 3 day fix, the more people involved in the problem the shorter time they have to respond. Just recently (and still ongoing ) is one of my draughtsmen who had a new PC issued, and could not map to the Drawing Office printers, we got one mapped yesterday after invoking the expired call procedure (after 3 days) and this morning trying to map the second we got exactly the same error come up. so 4 days and its still not resolved. (and thats something as easy as mapping a printer !! If I had my way I would give all the CAD users power user or higher status and let them decide what mappings they needed, and have the ability to resolve their own problems (or let me resolve them).
IT dont understand CAD, Higher management see it as some kind of Magic! performed by a wierd bunch of 'magicians' who they doint understand.
Ho Hum.

[Anonymous]

Having worked in a large corporate setting trying to do cad when all anyone
really cared about was that the Lotus DB's were cool... did suck. that
being said, you have to learn how to work the system. After dealing with
those IT guys, I kinda realized that thier initial "hesitation" to assist us
stemmed from 1000 other non-cad users crying wolf everytime their phot
screen saver quit working.

Instead of asking them to do something they won't do, find something they
will do that gets you what you need. In the case of locked systems, ask
them to change his password so you can access the systems. Claim lost
production and keep moving it up the chain. It not very realisitic to ask
them to change a compnay wide login policy because of one guy who may or may
not be around for long and may or may not even be a "real" employee. You
should be able to use those facts to your advantage to get the password
changed everytime you need it. After a few password changes, the consultant
should be frustrated enough to mend his ways. If he's truly obtuse, then
after a few password changes count on the whiney IT to make some noise. And
if IT truly rules, then it might come back down on your manager to "fix it".



wrote in message news:4848534@discussion.autodesk.com...
Its more a case of the huge amounts of paperwork to achieve the 'tweak', it
would have to be submitted, cleared, submitted furtherup, justified, cleared
etc etc. sometimes its just too much hassle. I personally believe our IT
have us over a barrel and are tying our hands, I dont fear the safety of the
corporate data, what I fear is that we wont be able to get to it when we
need it (well quickly anyway). At the moment a single user problem is a 3
day fix, the more people involved in the problem the shorter time they have
to respond. Just recently (and still ongoing ) is one of my draughtsmen who
had a new PC issued, and could not map to the Drawing Office printers, we
got one mapped yesterday after invoking the expired call procedure (after 3
days) and this morning trying to map the second we got exactly the same
error come up. so 4 days and its still not resolved. (and thats something as
easy as mapping a printer !! If I had my way I would give all the CAD users
power user or higher status and let them decide what mappings they needed,
and have the ability to resolve their own problems (or let me resolve them).
IT dont understand CAD, Higher management see it as some kind of Magic!
performed by a wierd bunch of 'magicians' who they doint understand.
Ho Hum.

[Anonymous]

It seems to me that none of the problems you stated have ANYTHING to do with CAD
- they just affect the CAD users.

You definitely have more of an issue with corporate structure and internal
efficiencies than anything technical. However, in this case, the corporate
structure is raining Management down on the IT and CAD side and causing
everything to get wet in the process.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com


On Wed, 18 May 2005 08:48:04 +0000, Grendel <> wrote:

>Its more a case of the huge amounts of paperwork to achieve the 'tweak', it would have to be submitted, cleared, submitted furtherup, justified, cleared etc etc. sometimes its just too much hassle. I personally believe our IT have us over a barrel and are tying our hands, I dont fear the safety of the corporate data, what I fear is that we wont be able to get to it when we need it (well quickly anyway). At the moment a single user problem is a 3 day fix, the more people involved in the problem the shorter time they have to respond. Just recently (and still ongoing ) is one of my draughtsmen who had a new PC issued, and could not map to the Drawing Office printers, we got one mapped yesterday after invoking the expired call procedure (after 3 days) and this morning trying to map the second we got exactly the same error come up. so 4 days and its still not resolved. (and thats something as easy as mapping a printer !! If I had my way I would give all the CAD users power user or higher
>status and let them decide what mappings they needed, and have the ability to resolve their own problems (or let me resolve them).
>IT dont understand CAD, Higher management see it as some kind of Magic! performed by a wierd bunch of 'magicians' who they doint understand.
>Ho Hum.

[Anonymous]

Ah the wonders of the corporate mega-beast