CAD Managers

[#1]

have you seen any Ustn clones Jorge?
They may be out there but I have not seen them.
All I can say is the only people around here (California) that use Ustn are the ones that have to because of the client.
No small shops choose it.

I'm sure adesk laughs when you say its a multi-million business. That is drops in the bucket compared to what Adesk
makes.

JorgeLedezma <>
|>"Nobody seems to be interested in it"
|>
|>MSTA is the base of Intergraph PDS, a multimillion business, for example, where ADSK isn't be able to get in, at least with AutoCAD.
James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - athunsaker - com

[#2]

Actually I used 3DS and Maya for fun. James, for your pleasure I am Piping Designer and I work mainly with PDS/PDMS and others AutoCAD packages like Cadworx, and I have used AutoCAD and main vertical products since 20 years ago.

[#3]

It's so lovely when the quote backs are out of context. So I'll reiterate
it. NOBODY [on the ODA web site] seems to be interested. This is based on
the information in the paragraph of my previous post. Which you quoted the
last line of and gave a totally off topic answer.

I don't do any plant design and don't know about autodesk's efforts in the
area. What has this to do with the DGN being an open format and DWG not?

I'm sure people writing software to work with MSTA are interested in the
format. But based on the ODA website you have to be a member even to get a
look at it and no one has posted any utilities to work with DGN. Only DWG.
All though I don't know I would think that members of the ADN would also
have access to the DWG file format. The only difference I see is that the
ODA seems to be an organization supported by Bentley rather than the ADN
which is sponsored by autodesk for their associated developers.

wrote in message news:5204379@discussion.autodesk.com...
"Nobody seems to be interested in it"

MSTA is the base of Intergraph PDS, a multimillion business, for example,
where ADSK isn't be able to get in, at least with AutoCAD.

[#4]

"For the record comparing Adobe to Autodesk isn't like comparing "apples and
pomegranates". Last time I checked pdf and dwg were both file formats for
storing information."

If I gave you a DWG file. You could open it and start working on it. If I
gave you a PDF. You could look at it of print it.

Allen

[#5]

Jorge,

Learn how to use the tools of your trade then!!! I don't mean just learning how to do simple stuff either. AutoCAD is very powerful, you just need to adapt IT to YOUR way of working... Not try to get the base programme adapted to your way of working.
Sure it has it's limits, So does any software.

Mark

[#6]

Wrong. You see I have this little icon on my desktop called "Adobe Acrobat
6.0 Standard". As long as the document wasn't locked for editing I could
modify it as much as I wanted.

--
Regards,
Tim
http://tjriley.infogami.com/pyacaddotnet


"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5204462@discussion.autodesk.com...
"For the record comparing Adobe to Autodesk isn't like comparing "apples and
pomegranates". Last time I checked pdf and dwg were both file formats for
storing information."

If I gave you a DWG file. You could open it and start working on it. If I
gave you a PDF. You could look at it of print it.

Allen

[#7]

so have you ever written a simple lisp routine? Ever modified a menu (Pre CUI)?
Have you ever written a script?
Saying you have "used" Autocad for 20 years is vague. Well, normally it would not be but your other posts lead me to
believe you have never used acad in production.

I'm glad you had fun with 3ds and maya, I get the feeling your acad exposure is about the same level.

JorgeLedezma <>
|>Actually I used 3DS and Maya for fun. James, for your pleasure I am Piping Designer and I work mainly with PDS/PDMS and others AutoCAD packages like Cadworx, and I have used AutoCAD and main vertical products since 20 years ago.
James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - athunsaker - com

[#8]

James I believe in the tripod metaphor for the AutoCAD way to work.

1 leg are the end users
1 leg is the Cad manager
1 leg is the developer.

You are trying to take me to your field where you say you are: developer field. Why are you continuing posting in the Cad manager forum, why don't you post in the customizing discussion groups where sure you find someone that can match your very deep lisp knowledge. James, I am more Cad manager oriented.

[#9]

I might give you that on a technicality. But I was talking about a drawing.
Not a drawing in AutoCAD and a piece of text in adobe. Even with a piece of
text there are better file formats to send data to someone. If you want them
to be able to work with them.

Allen

"Tim Riley" wrote in message
news:5204594@discussion.autodesk.com...
Wrong. You see I have this little icon on my desktop called "Adobe Acrobat
6.0 Standard". As long as the document wasn't locked for editing I could
modify it as much as I wanted.

--
Regards,
Tim
http://tjriley.infogami.com/pyacaddotnet


"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5204462@discussion.autodesk.com...
"For the record comparing Adobe to Autodesk isn't like comparing "apples and
pomegranates". Last time I checked pdf and dwg were both file formats for
storing information."

If I gave you a DWG file. You could open it and start working on it. If I
gave you a PDF. You could look at it of print it.

Allen

[#10]

well, one minor detail about ADN is you have to pay to be a member....
But Jorge is possibly the ultimate Troll, per James Wedding's definition.

Allen Jessup
|>It's so lovely when the quote backs are out of context. So I'll reiterate
|>it. NOBODY [on the ODA web site] seems to be interested. This is based on
|>the information in the paragraph of my previous post. Which you quoted the
|>last line of and gave a totally off topic answer.
|>
|>I don't do any plant design and don't know about autodesk's efforts in the
|>area. What has this to do with the DGN being an open format and DWG not?
|>
|>I'm sure people writing software to work with MSTA are interested in the
|>format. But based on the ODA website you have to be a member even to get a
|>look at it and no one has posted any utilities to work with DGN. Only DWG.
|>All though I don't know I would think that members of the ADN would also
|>have access to the DWG file format. The only difference I see is that the
|>ODA seems to be an organization supported by Bentley rather than the ADN
|>which is sponsored by autodesk for their associated developers.
|>
|> wrote in message news:5204379@discussion.autodesk.com...
|>"Nobody seems to be interested in it"
|>
|>MSTA is the base of Intergraph PDS, a multimillion business, for example,
|>where ADSK isn't be able to get in, at least with AutoCAD.
James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - athunsaker - com