Venting

[LeahS1]

Management here is blocking us from doing what should be done in order to have a good quality drawing. I am telling people to do things the "proper" way, and he is telling them its not necessary, and to just do it quickly. Then a few weeks later he is complaining, and the person has to pretty much start over because the whole problem started with not spending the time on it in the begining.
In his mind he can design and draft a 500 lot subdivision and have it ready for submission in a few weeks. Therefore we are idiots because we are saying its not possible. I believe he is a bit delusional. I have worked my butt off to get the cad standards, design standards, etc. under enough control that we can each open and work on an others drawing without confusion. We recently installed Land, and I have been trying to train everyone on that. He sticks his nose in and tells me there has to be a faster way of doing it. I have not had formal training since about 2000. Maybe things have changed and there are better ways to do it, but unless he is going to be the big spender and get me/us some formal training he is stuck with how I have been doing things for over 10 years.
He is the only one of the managers that seems to feel speed is better quality. The other 3 are great and supportive. Unfortunately this one is the big boss.
Ahhhhhh I feel better now.

[Anonymous]

I found the other images showing the clearance of this very tall 4X4, in
case you want to see...

[Anonymous]

and the last one...

[Anonymous]

And I can just imagine the effect a rather snowy day might produce?

That 4-bye isn't all that jacked up Lon.

I've seen a few recently that needed underbody attachments to get up into.

One had an electric "step", that appeared when the door was opened, and then
disappeared once the door was closed. 😮

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"Lon Neufeld" wrote in message
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I found the other images showing the clearance of this very tall 4X4, in
case you want to see...

[LeahS1]

He has many years till he retires. 😞
The other project managers here are good, and will stick up for the rest of us. Usually we avoid the confrontation by not asking him questions, and just doing it the right way. That way its too late for him to say no. He will get ticked, but we will just say he was busy or out of the office so we confirmed with an other engineer.
This project, he has decided to be more involved, and question me on the process we use. He likes to cut corners. The rest of us do not.
Golf season will be starting up soon, so he will go away. (wish we were south where golf season is year round) Message was edited by: lsimms

[Anonymous]

Golf balls tend to blend into a white background I hear. ;0)

Same as being surrounded by the "rough" I suppose.
:-o

Your firm's situation makes me wonder about the interviews that have gone on
in the past?

How did this Quick & Dirty owner end up surrounded by Quality & Diligence
staff?

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Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
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!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

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"The only Constant is Change".

wrote in message news:5538979@discussion.autodesk.com...
He has many years till he retires. 😞
The other project managers here are good, and will stick up for the rest of
us. Usually we avoid the confrontation by not asking him questions, and
just doing it the right way. That way its too late for him to say no. He
will get ticked, but we will just say he was busy or out of the office so we
confirmed with an other engineer.
This project, he has decided to be more involved, and question me on the
process we use. He likes to cut corners. The rest of us do not.
Golf season will be starting up soon, so he will go away. (wish we were
south where golf season is year round)

Message was edited by: lsimms

[LeahS1]

Some of the staff have been here longer than him. He hires people primarily for them. Usually he sticks with client relations, and passes the work to other engineers. He also puts on a big front to potential employees abou QC. Just doesn't follow through with his own.
Things could be MUCH worse. The job I had before coming here (I left rather abruptly) I actually asked the question "Is this legal?" I knew the answer was no, and decided I could use an unplanned vacation. (and therapy)
We use orange golf balls for winter play, but run into too many people cheating their score. If they are close to the flag they consider it in the hole. Noone wants to dig out the hole so they can sink the hmmmm. Was going to say putt, but more like a chip shot. If the ball rolls and gets too coated in snow it won't fit in the hole.

[Anonymous]

Must be interesting golfing attire for
cold-weather play I'm also thinking.

[img src="@149383"]

;0)

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Don Reichle
"The only thing
worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your
staff, and having them stay." 😮
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Providers' Calendar page
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------------------------------------------
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you with your SysMgr !!
       !! They
appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!
 
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XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce
FX 5200 128MB
 
"The only Constant is Change".
 

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Some of
the staff have been here longer than him.  He hires people primarily for
them.  Usually he sticks with client relations, and passes the work to
other engineers.  He also puts on a big front to potential employees abou
QC.  Just doesn't follow through with his own.
Things could be MUCH
worse.  The job I had before coming here (I left rather abruptly) I
actually asked the question "Is this legal?"  I knew the answer was no, and
decided I could use an unplanned vacation.  (and therapy)
We use orange
golf balls for winter play, but run into too many people cheating their
score.  If they are close to the flag they consider it in the hole. 
Noone wants to dig out the hole so they can sink the hmmmm.  Was going to
say putt, but more like a chip shot.  If the ball rolls and gets too coated
in snow it won't fit in the hole.

[peter.ashby]

I rather prefer the immovable object approach - this can be done - this cannot be done - this will cost you big bucks to achieve - tends to work. they can shout and scream all they like but if it takes 12 hours to do a job, they will get it in 12 hours, not 2 (but they will be told 12 hours in the first instance too).

[Anonymous]

Typical job of "do it fast, don't think and don't ask questions".

Jan

Lon Neufeld wrote:

> As they say: a) good, b) fast, c) cheap...tell him he can only pick two.
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> I'll bet the people in these pictures will tell you they would have
> preferred the first one to be in the mix. (by the way these were was posted
> by someone here several months ago, I do not know who the picture belongs
> to)
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[peter.ashby]

The one I caught was a Bank that had a missed a fire escape route from one area on the top floor, who then proposed having a fire exit to a balcony, then a push bar entry at the other end back into the building. they said this was ok as it was the top floor. I pointed out the roof of the neighboring building only 4 foot below the balcony, and explained the security risk that posed for people getting on that roof getting free access into the bank.
Mind you when they built it they were pouring concrete and filled a flat in the neighbouring building with 2 foot of concrete when its wall collapsed through with the weight of the concrete poured.