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    Re: Track ball vs. Mouse

    01-08-2007 07:07 AM in reply to: *Howard K
    i doubt voice control will ever catch on. for 1 there would be the noise polution in the office, can you imagine a room full of people yabbering at their computers. listen to the background noise next time you phone a call centre, and their in booths...

    i would be one of the fools sneaking up behind my mate and shouting "close, no, close, no, close, no" as well
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    *Allen Jessup

    Re: Track ball vs. Mouse

    01-08-2007 07:34 AM in reply to: *Howard K
    Noise canceling headphones would take care of the first and since the
    software has to be trained and set for each voice I doubt if you'd get any
    reaction to the second. Or at least no reaction from the software )

    wrote in message news:5444037@discussion.autodesk.com...
    i doubt voice control will ever catch on. for 1 there would be the noise
    polution in the office, can you imagine a room full of people yabbering at
    their computers. listen to the background noise next time you phone a call
    centre, and their in booths...

    i would be one of the fools sneaking up behind my mate and shouting "close,
    no, close, no, close, no" as well
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    *Matt Stachoni

    Re: Track ball vs. Mouse

    01-08-2007 07:54 AM in reply to: *Howard K
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 15:34:47 +0000, Allen Jessup
    wrote:

    >Noise canceling headphones would take care of the first and since the
    >software has to be trained and set for each voice I doubt if you'd get any
    >reaction to the second. Or at least no reaction from the software )

    That simply creates the problem of everyone having to use headphones all of the
    time for CAD work, which is almost as silly as using voice controlled CAD
    sofwtare in a corporate setting in the first place.

    Matt
    mstachoni@comcast.net
    mstachoni@bhhtait.com
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    *Fred

    Re: Track ball vs. Mouse

    01-08-2007 07:58 AM in reply to: *Howard K
    Matt Stachoni wrote:
    > On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 15:34:47 +0000, Allen Jessup
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Noise canceling headphones would take care of the first and since the
    >> software has to be trained and set for each voice I doubt if you'd get any
    >> reaction to the second. Or at least no reaction from the software )
    >
    > That simply creates the problem of everyone having to use headphones all of the
    > time for CAD work, which is almost as silly as using voice controlled CAD
    > sofwtare in a corporate setting in the first place.


    After a week or 2 they would all be a nervous wreck. Having to wear ear
    phones and every time somebody wanted to talk having to tap them on the
    shoulder and watching them jump out of there skin. But, it would cut
    down on the time spent taking phone calls. Then again voice mail would
    fill up.
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    *Allen Jessup

    Re: Track ball vs. Mouse

    01-08-2007 08:10 AM in reply to: *Howard K
    Never said it wasn't silly. (Or that I wasn't silly.) But if you're going to
    use it anyway. You should go all the way.

    On a more serious note. I think, for me, the trackball and keyboard are the
    best combination of input devices. But I always think there has to be a
    better way. I haven't seen anything yet. But I'm always hopeful.

    Allen

    "Matt Stachoni" wrote in message
    news:5444095@discussion.autodesk.com...
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 15:34:47 +0000, Allen Jessup
    wrote:

    >Noise canceling headphones would take care of the first and since the
    >software has to be trained and set for each voice I doubt if you'd get any
    >reaction to the second. Or at least no reaction from the software )

    That simply creates the problem of everyone having to use headphones all of
    the
    time for CAD work, which is almost as silly as using voice controlled CAD
    sofwtare in a corporate setting in the first place.

    Matt
    mstachoni@comcast.net
    mstachoni@bhhtait.com
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    *Lon Neufeld

    Re: Track ball vs. Mouse

    01-08-2007 11:19 AM in reply to: *Howard K
    I could go for that here (no radio, no music, no headphone policy), finally
    I could "get away" with listening to music!
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    *Allen Jessup

    Re: Track ball vs. Mouse

    01-08-2007 11:39 AM in reply to: *Howard K
    Yeah. Same here. Never could understand how listening to everyone else
    jabber to each other or on the phone. Plus the plotter, printers, copier and
    scanner. Is supposed to be less distracting than music. The only reason we
    have it is because some of the less mature ones turn it in to radio wars.

    "Lon Neufeld" wrote in message
    news:5444398@discussion.autodesk.com...
    I could go for that here (no radio, no music, no headphone policy), finally
    I could "get away" with listening to music!
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    *James Maeding

    Re: Track ball vs. Mouse

    01-08-2007 12:42 PM in reply to: *Howard K
    cool, yes you can do whatever with the code, its a mix of stuff learned here anyway :smileyhappy:
    I want to do a class at AU on cad setup/startup tricks. That is one area where I have written a lot of workaround progs
    to control things, yet allow users to customize on top of my stuff.
    I'd like others to do that too - walk us through how they deal with things like non-networked laptops, beginner vs
    experienced users, file cleaning...stuff that tends to be specific to a company but reveals patterns that are useful.

    jseefcoot <>
    |>Sweet! I like that, because the way our standards are set up those aliases will fit in nicely. (I'm guessing you have no problems with us using that code, since you posted it. . . .)
    |>
    |>I do like to keep all of my aliases on the left side of the keyboard, and I frequently double and triple up on keys to make that possible. I could hit MP for match properties, and do it pretty fast, but WW is a little faster, and the chance of missing is much less. I try to keep similar commands on the same key, though -- for me, V is line, VV is polyline, VVV is polyline edit; W is properties, WW is Match Properties, etc. Makes it easier to remember too.
    |>
    |>I use almost every key that is available to my left hand; if a key was once occupied by a default command that I never use, I redefine it in my macros. Anyting to keep my left hand in one spot. If possible, I try to associate the key with the command in some way, to keep the aliases easy to remember. For instance, I rarely need to create blocks, but I frequently break lines at a point, so for me, B is the Break command. One oddity, though, is I invariably type in numbers with my right hand on the numpad. It's pretty much the only time when I'm drafting that I'll remove my hand from the mouse completely.
    James Maeding
    Civil Engineer and Programmer
    jmaeding - athunsaker - com
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    *Lon Neufeld

    Re: Track ball vs. Mouse

    01-08-2007 01:42 PM in reply to: *Howard K
    Do you write to these forums under a pseudonym? maybe your sitting on the
    other side of my cubicle right now?! :-D

    Music has been a bone of contention around here (every once in a while we
    are permitted to quietly listen to radio, then the younger kids crank it up
    before heading out to the field for measurements or whatever, and we all pay
    yet again)
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    Re: Track ball vs. Mouse

    01-09-2007 01:19 AM in reply to: *Howard K
    about 3 times a year we have clients visit our offices which is the reason were not allowed headphones, (looks unprofesional???) same reason we have to wear a shirt and tie.

    it wouldnt take much to warn us somebody would be coming in so we could stash our headphones, and it would encourage us to look sharp a couple of times a year, rather than wearing the usual work soiled clothes with baby sick on i currently model
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