ah, the -la trick, I do that too.
Now what I need to write is a clone of the command line layer tool that does not allow spaces in the layer name.
In R12, we got so fast at freezing and thawing layers with LA but the long symbol name ability has thrown a wrench in
that habit.
I want spaces allowed, but not in the -la command...I'll have to do that soon.
Allen Jessup
|>Yeah. We had one of those in another Dept. They were slow to begin with and
|>slower with the trackball. But of course they bought a Mickey mouse
|>trackball. There was just a roll-out of new computers and this is the first
|>time they bought optical mice with scroll wheels. Up till then it was always
|>manual 2 button mice. Then we had to spend out own money on better mice.
|>
|>Anyone I teach learns to type in the short cuts. Because anytime they ask me
|>how to do something I make them do it that way. Most of the time I don't
|>know which menu it's on without looking because I don't use it.
|>
|>I've found that I like to redefine the alias LA for -LA. This gives me the
|>command line layer command. I find that better for creating layers and you
|>can turn off or freeze layers by selecting objects without going to a menu.
|>So to freeze a layer I would type LA F [enter] [pick] and the layer if
|>frozen. I use LL to bring up the Layer Manager.
|>
|>thanks,
|>Allen
|>
|>"James Maeding" wrote in message
|>news:5440393@discussion.autodesk.com...
|>Allen, I'm sure you are since you know your stuff and could do it any way
|>you wanted.
|>The problem ones are those that mess up their wrists from too much mousing,
|>then switch to trackball and work even
|>slower because they pick the same stuff but with the trackball now (and
|>never touch the settings...).
|>If people just learned to type l for line, and z for zoom, we could save so
|>much mousing.
|>Then if people learned a few short lisps, they could automate a lot of
|>clicks.
|>Some do this and fly, others don't have the interest. Its amazing how easy
|>it is to rise above those that don't.
|>I still want a trackball for 3d viewing and centipede 🙂
|>I tried one of those logitech 3d mice at AU, it was very interesting. A
|>mouse might not be the best input device yet...
|>
|>Allen Jessup
|>|>I hope you would accept that I might be one of the 1 in 5.
|>|>
|>|>You went back to a wired mouse because it was heavy and dragged. I feel
|>that
|>|>way about any mouse. I mostly only have to move the ball with my index and
|>|>middle fingers while using my thumb and ring finger for buttons. The thumb
|>|>also works the scroll wheel.
|>|>
|>|>I do agree with you about typing. But that may be because of being at this
|>|>for 20 years. I have gotten somewhat fond to tool pallets in the past
|>year.
|>|>There aren't enough keys to cover all the LDT command on top of the
|>AutoCAD
|>|>ones without going to 3 & 4 letter combos. At that point I think you're
|>past
|>|>the break even point. Especially trying to get new hires to memorize all
|>the
|>|>aliases.
|>|>
|>|>Allen
|>|>
|>|>"James Maeding" wrote in message
|>|>news:5440157@discussion.autodesk.com...
|>|>I had a wireless mouse and did not like it as it was heavier than the
|>wired
|>|>one, it dragged more on the mouse pad.
|>|>I love the no wire but went back.
|>|>Watch out on the ones who use trackballs, I have seen one in 5 people be
|>|>fast with them, and the slow ones NEVER speed
|>|>up because they are using the mouse (trackball) too much anyway.
|>|>Find that person that types most commands, and they are great with a
|>|>trackball 🙂 Plus you can play centipede better if
|>|>you have MAME.
|>|>
|>|>Howard K
|>|>|>Thanks to all for the Input.
|>|>|>So, there are people out there who use a trackball and are productive.
|>|>|>In the 13 yrs I have been drafting I have never seen a person draft with
|>|>|>one.
|>|>|>I think I saw a secretary use a trackball once. But, that is a whole
|>|>|>different thing.
|>|>|>
|>|>|>I myself use a wireless mouse and hate when I go to someone elses desk
|>|>|>and have that stupid wire attached to there mouse.
|>|>|>
|>|>|>
|>|>|>
|>|>|>Thanks again,
|>|>|>Howard
|>|>|>
|>|>|>"Timothy B. Storey" wrote in message
|>|>|>news:5440065@discussion.autodesk.com...
|>|>|>"Howard K" wrote in message
|>|>|>news:5439652@discussion.autodesk.com...
|>|>|>I'm just a little curious, how many of you use a track ball?. A new
|>|>drafter
|>|>|>just started here and brought in his own track ball.
|>|>|>Personally, I can't see how he is going to become productive using a
|>track
|>|>|>ball. But then again I have never used one while drafting.
|>|>|>I've sat at his desk and it seems very awkward to draft with.
|>|>|>
|>|>|>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
|>|>|>
|>|>|>Thank You,
|>|>James Maeding
|>|>Civil Engineer and Programmer
|>|>jmaeding - athunsaker - com
|>James Maeding
|>Civil Engineer and Programmer
|>jmaeding - athunsaker - com
James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - athunsaker - com