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Message 1 of 11
Anonymous
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Sharing Files

I'm working in an enviornment where we have nine offices across the country,
all on a WAN. Our I.S. dept. says that opening the WAN up could be
problematic and that we can't do it at this time... we're NT based using a
frame relay. At present we're starting to use project teams across the
various offices but they can't share the files due to the restrictions on
the WAN. Now, I know it can be done, but being that I'm not a network
Admin. I'm not sure of the solution. Does anyone have an idea?

Randy
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Message 2 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

The Person who setup our WAN between two offices did so simply by
programming our two Netopia routers (one at each location) to talk directly
to each other. I can print to a device at the other office, can login to
their domain or browse the computers through network neighborhood. We are
currently exploring Document Management software options that will make it
easier to keep track of documents for the same project between offices. I
believe the consultant did this by programming the ports on eaqch router to
talk to each other. They use NAT so they're somewhat secure and have been
totally reliable. Also, we we're originally on a Mac system when this was
setup, and have since migrated to NT so it is network independent.

I suspect there may be some limitation because you're using frame relay. I
would ask your tech what the specific limitation is. Also, I think our
setup takes some skill (another Tech I talked to tried it, and couldn't get
it to work), but I'd be happy to get you in touch with our ocnsultant.

Best Regards,

Tela Andrews
EPT Landscape Architecture
www.eptland.com

"Randy Rush" wrote in message
news:3E529923909A19B195280A68C8F3AC09@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I'm working in an enviornment where we have nine offices across the
country,
> all on a WAN. Our I.S. dept. says that opening the WAN up could be
> problematic and that we can't do it at this time... we're NT based using a
> frame relay. At present we're starting to use project teams across the
> various offices but they can't share the files due to the restrictions on
> the WAN. Now, I know it can be done, but being that I'm not a network
> Admin. I'm not sure of the solution. Does anyone have an idea?
>
> Randy
>
Message 3 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Thanks Tela,

That would be great. I guess it's a problem most firms have. And our techs
think it would be an administrative nightmare to open up the WAN but there's
got to be a better way. Here's my info

Randy Rush
Corporate CAD Manager
MCG Architecture
O - 626-793-9119
F - 626-796-9295
E - rrush@mcgarchitecture.com

"Tela Andrews" wrote in message
news:7BC49ADE075499EC8A19C601F0ED8A13@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> The Person who setup our WAN between two offices did so simply by
> programming our two Netopia routers (one at each location) to talk
directly
> to each other. I can print to a device at the other office, can login to
> their domain or browse the computers through network neighborhood. We are
> currently exploring Document Management software options that will make it
> easier to keep track of documents for the same project between offices. I
> believe the consultant did this by programming the ports on eaqch router
to
> talk to each other. They use NAT so they're somewhat secure and have been
> totally reliable. Also, we we're originally on a Mac system when this was
> setup, and have since migrated to NT so it is network independent.
>
> I suspect there may be some limitation because you're using frame relay.
I
> would ask your tech what the specific limitation is. Also, I think our
> setup takes some skill (another Tech I talked to tried it, and couldn't
get
> it to work), but I'd be happy to get you in touch with our ocnsultant.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Tela Andrews
> EPT Landscape Architecture
> www.eptland.com
>
> "Randy Rush" wrote in message
> news:3E529923909A19B195280A68C8F3AC09@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I'm working in an enviornment where we have nine offices across the
> country,
> > all on a WAN. Our I.S. dept. says that opening the WAN up could be
> > problematic and that we can't do it at this time... we're NT based using
a
> > frame relay. At present we're starting to use project teams across the
> > various offices but they can't share the files due to the restrictions
on
> > the WAN. Now, I know it can be done, but being that I'm not a network
> > Admin. I'm not sure of the solution. Does anyone have an idea?
> >
> > Randy
> >
>
Message 4 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Randy,
We have 10 offices in Mi, Fl, and Oh with full T1 access from all
offices to our corporate office. Our network is wide open within itself and
fire walled from the internet. With the T1 we have pretty good bandwidth
and many users open files across the WAN. This works fine for relatively
small files.

Skip
Randy Rush wrote in message
news:3E529923909A19B195280A68C8F3AC09@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I'm working in an enviornment where we have nine offices across the
country,
> all on a WAN. Our I.S. dept. says that opening the WAN up could be
> problematic and that we can't do it at this time... we're NT based using a
> frame relay. At present we're starting to use project teams across the
> various offices but they can't share the files due to the restrictions on
> the WAN. Now, I know it can be done, but being that I'm not a network
> Admin. I'm not sure of the solution. Does anyone have an idea?
>
> Randy
>
Message 5 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

http://www.Buzzsaw.com
Message 6 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Only one problem with buzzssaw, it has a problem working behind a firewall.
I get transfer times in the "days" when uploading files and then it will cut
off unexpectedly at times.

"Bobby W Parker" wrote in message
news:f04e8b1.0@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> http://www.Buzzsaw.com
>
Message 7 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

We are having the same problem except we share a Cisco router with an office
in the same building. I thought we could open a port through the router to
enable both offices to share data on each others machine, but the people who
support our router suggested a fifteen thousand dollar server to share. I am
not sure how they want to share data this way, but it is probably through
the router. Does anybody have any experience sharing data across a router?
Other than the obvious security risks, it is doable?
Message 8 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hey Skip,
do you have any problems with security? people messing around with files or
deleting files they should? Our I.S. is pretty adamant about not opening up
the WAN for fear of chaos. They also say they're no way to know who messed
up something. I want to put in place a system by where your title would
restrict you from certain permissions. lets say your a Jr. Draftsman, you
shouldn't be able to delete folders, only PA's PM's or JC's something along
that nature. Also I think that one person should be in charge of data
collecting and disbursement, and that person should be the JC or project
coordinator... but that's another issue, my main concern is getting our
network open, and we keep running into walls with these guys... any other
thoughts?

Randy

"Skip Diercks" wrote in message
news:E6C75EF670232B283C2B91221E0067D4@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Randy,
> We have 10 offices in Mi, Fl, and Oh with full T1 access from all
> offices to our corporate office. Our network is wide open within itself
and
> fire walled from the internet. With the T1 we have pretty good bandwidth
> and many users open files across the WAN. This works fine for relatively
> small files.
>
> Skip
> Randy Rush wrote in message
> news:3E529923909A19B195280A68C8F3AC09@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I'm working in an enviornment where we have nine offices across the
> country,
> > all on a WAN. Our I.S. dept. says that opening the WAN up could be
> > problematic and that we can't do it at this time... we're NT based using
a
> > frame relay. At present we're starting to use project teams across the
> > various offices but they can't share the files due to the restrictions
on
> > the WAN. Now, I know it can be done, but being that I'm not a network
> > Admin. I'm not sure of the solution. Does anyone have an idea?
> >
> > Randy
> >
>
Message 9 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You should be able to do this easily with proper user/group management. You
can also turn on auditing and set it up to log pretty much anything.

Dan
Message 10 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

To collaborate along with other project teams you can use the Electronic
Vault wich allow you to centralize Cad drawings either in the native
source format or Visualizable format.

According to your user's credential, people will be allowed to visualize
or fetch any CAD drawing through the Web Browser !

For project management purposes, the Program Office Tool lets you deploy
your processes and practices throughout the organization while providing
you key strategic information regarding any projects for executive
reporting and quick decision making.

To learn more about PMO software go to:
http://www.lanasys.net/english/pdf/pmo.pdf

"Randy Rush" wrote in message
news:3E529923909A19B195280A68C8F3AC09@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I'm working in an enviornment where we have nine offices across the
country,
> all on a WAN. Our I.S. dept. says that opening the WAN up could be
> problematic and that we can't do it at this time... we're NT based using a
> frame relay. At present we're starting to use project teams across the
> various offices but they can't share the files due to the restrictions on
> the WAN. Now, I know it can be done, but being that I'm not a network
> Admin. I'm not sure of the solution. Does anyone have an idea?
>
> Randy
>
Message 11 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Randy,
We have no security problems. By the group you are part of, your
permissions are assigned. All data for a project, from accounting to CADD
drawings are placed in one project folders within specific sub folder.
Permissions are assigned to the subfolders through groups. I understand
their desire for security, but a properly design system is easy to keep
secure. We are currently in the process of changing our permission setup
because up until now we have limited offices to read-only to other offices
and are now opening up the WAN for the entire corporation to have the same
rights to the same folders on all servers. This concept allows for easier
collaboration efforts between offices. Our current method of keeping users
restricted to their own server has been a system management nightmare. What
you are talking about looks like a good idea to me. You will need to sit
down with your IT people and your users to hash out a workable plan. The
plan is the key. You will probably find that within 3-6 months you will
have to make some modifications because you simply can't plan for all
situations and will need to reassess how things are working on a periodic
basis. IT people usually have never been in the production environment and
often don't understand what the user really needs. Communication will be a
key. If you need any other help or suggestions, or maybe some consultation,
let me know, I will do what I can to help.

--
Skip Diercks
Computer Support Specialist
Wade-Trim, Inc.
E-mail: sdiercks@wadetrim.com

Randy Rush wrote in message
news:AFD9BF2093D2786B9386042129279143@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hey Skip,
> do you have any problems with security? people messing around with files
or
> deleting files they should? Our I.S. is pretty adamant about not opening
up
> the WAN for fear of chaos. They also say they're no way to know who
messed
> up something. I want to put in place a system by where your title would
> restrict you from certain permissions. lets say your a Jr. Draftsman, you
> shouldn't be able to delete folders, only PA's PM's or JC's something
along
> that nature. Also I think that one person should be in charge of data
> collecting and disbursement, and that person should be the JC or project
> coordinator... but that's another issue, my main concern is getting our
> network open, and we keep running into walls with these guys... any other
> thoughts?
>
> Randy
>
> "Skip Diercks" wrote in message
> news:E6C75EF670232B283C2B91221E0067D4@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Randy,
> > We have 10 offices in Mi, Fl, and Oh with full T1 access from all
> > offices to our corporate office. Our network is wide open within itself
> and
> > fire walled from the internet. With the T1 we have pretty good
bandwidth
> > and many users open files across the WAN. This works fine for
relatively
> > small files.
> >
> > Skip
> > Randy Rush wrote in message
> > news:3E529923909A19B195280A68C8F3AC09@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > I'm working in an enviornment where we have nine offices across the
> > country,
> > > all on a WAN. Our I.S. dept. says that opening the WAN up could be
> > > problematic and that we can't do it at this time... we're NT based
using
> a
> > > frame relay. At present we're starting to use project teams across
the
> > > various offices but they can't share the files due to the restrictions
> on
> > > the WAN. Now, I know it can be done, but being that I'm not a
network
> > > Admin. I'm not sure of the solution. Does anyone have an idea?
> > >
> > > Randy
> > >
> >
>

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