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Anonymous
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Need MAJOR Help

I posted this in Customization and VBA but I know that not everyone has all
the groups in their favorites so I'm posting here in the hopes for
information:


I'm willing to bet only autodesk can answer this one(then again...). Here is
the issue.

I created a company tool bar. I made some BMP Icons for the buttons. One of
the icons I was messing around with and made a face. I went ot put it back
the way it was later, and it wouldnt let me. See the attached image. I
un-installed all of ADT 3.3, deleted the directory and re-installed it... it
is still there!! Where the heck is this image file being held!?!?

Here is the men
u file for our tool bar below. I put a ------------> to show
which one is the icon. whats the deal! Please help.

//
// The Ritchie Organization menu file - C:\Program Files\Autodesk
Architectural Desktop 3\Support\tro.mns
//

***MENUGROUP=TRO

***POP1
**TRO
ID_MnTRO [T&RO]
ID_TROButton_10 [TRO &Standards Help]^C^C^P(help "help
"S:/Intranet/doc/Manual of Practice/9997_TRO Manual.chm" ) ^P
ID_TROButton_11 [E-mail .&Geeks](command "start" mailto:help@mail.com)

[--]
ID_TROButton_12 [&Clean and
Audit]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/Clean_Audit.scr;
ID_TROButton_13 [&Layer State Manager]^C^Clman
[--]
ID_TROButton_14 [&Update TRO Tools](command "start"
"S:/CADstan/Common/Setup/CAD_Update.vbs")

***TOOLBARS
**TRO_TOOLS
**TB_TRO_TOOLS
ID_TRO_Tools_0 [_Toolbar("TRO Tools", _Top, _Show, 2, 2, 1)]
ID_TROButton_0 [_Button("TRO Standards(MoPP)", "TRO_Help.BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^C^P(help "S:/Intranet/doc/Manual of Practic
e/9997_TRO
Manual.chm" ) ^P
-----------------> ID_TROButton_1 [_Button("E-mail Geeks about CAD",
"TRO_Geeks.BMP", "Icon_16_Blank")](command "start" mailto:.Help@mail.com)
[--]
ID_TROButton_2 [_Button("Purge, CDGPurge and, Audit", "TRO_CleanUp.bmp",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/Clean_Audit.scr;
ID_TROButton_3 [_Button("Layer States Manager", "TRO_LayStateSave.bmp",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Clman
ID_TROButton_4 [_Button("Quick Close", "TRO_QuickClose.
BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/QClose.scr;
[--]
ID_TROButton_5 [_Button("Update TRO CAD Tools", "TRO_Update.BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")](command "start" "S:/CADstan/Common/Setup/CAD_Update.vbs")

***HELPSTRINGS

ID_TROBUTTON_0 [The Manual of Professional Practice contains documentation
on our firms standards. Use this frequently.]
ID_TROBUTTON_1 [This button will open up an E-mail to the TRO geeks. You
can ask them about anything CAD or co
mputer related.]
ID_TROBUTTON_2 [This will Purge all, CDGPurge all except for page setups,
and Audit the document fixing any errors 3 times.]
ID_TROBUTTON_3 [This will start the layer states manager for you.]
ID_TROBUTTON_4 [Quick saves and closes active drawing.]
ID_TROBUTTON_5 [By pressing this button you will start the update for TRO
Tools. This will close CAD and copy the needed files to your computer then
open CAD back up.]


//
// End of The Ritchie Organization me
nu file - C:\Program
Files\Autodesk Architectural Desktop 3\Support\tro.mns
//
15 REPLIES 15
Message 2 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You mean the sad yellow face?

That's because your MNS file is listing something other than what your MNU
file lists, plus you need to make sure all the BMP files you create are in
the ADT program search path. Edit your MNS after you confirm paths and BMP
file name spelling.

--
Dean Saadallah
Add-on products for LT
http://www.pendean.com/lt
--
Message 3 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Delete the ".BMP" portion of the icon name.

On Tue, 10 May 2005 17:29:23 +0000, AlmightySR
wrote:

>I posted this in Customization and VBA but I know that not everyone has all
>the groups in their favorites so I'm posting here in the hopes for
>information:

[snip]

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com
Message 4 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Solved!
Figure this out... I remove the ARG file and it works! What the heck is
that!?! anyway thank you al lfor the help


"AlmightySR" wrote in message
news:4840228@discussion.autodesk.com...
I posted this in Customization and VBA but I know that not everyone has all
the groups in their favorites so I'm posting here in the hopes for
information:


I'm willing to bet only autodesk can answer this one(then again...). Here is
the issue.

I created a company tool bar. I made some BMP Icons for the buttons. One of
the icons I was messing around with and made a face. I went ot put it back
the way it was later, and it wouldnt let me. See the attached image. I
un-installed all of ADT 3.3, deleted the directory and re-installed it... it
is still there!! Where the heck is this image file being held!?!?

Here is the men
u file for our tool bar below. I put a ------------> to show
which one is the icon. whats the deal! Please help.

//
// The Ritchie Organization menu file - C:\Program Files\Autodesk
Architectural Desktop 3\Support\tro.mns
//

***MENUGROUP=TRO

***POP1
**TRO
ID_MnTRO [T&RO]
ID_TROButton_10 [TRO &Standards Help]^C^C^P(help "help
"S:/Intranet/doc/Manual of Practice/9997_TRO Manual.chm" ) ^P
ID_TROButton_11 [E-mail .&Geeks](command "start" mailto:help@mail.com)

[--]
ID_TROButton_12 [&Clean and
Audit]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/Clean_Audit.scr;
ID_TROButton_13 [&Layer State Manager]^C^Clman
[--]
ID_TROButton_14 [&Update TRO Tools](command "start"
"S:/CADstan/Common/Setup/CAD_Update.vbs")

***TOOLBARS
**TRO_TOOLS
**TB_TRO_TOOLS
ID_TRO_Tools_0 [_Toolbar("TRO Tools", _Top, _Show, 2, 2, 1)]
ID_TROButton_0 [_Button("TRO Standards(MoPP)", "TRO_Help.BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^C^P(help "S:/Intranet/doc/Manual of Practic
e/9997_TRO
Manual.chm" ) ^P
-----------------> ID_TROButton_1 [_Button("E-mail Geeks about CAD",
"TRO_Geeks.BMP", "Icon_16_Blank")](command "start" mailto:.Help@mail.com)
[--]
ID_TROButton_2 [_Button("Purge, CDGPurge and, Audit", "TRO_CleanUp.bmp",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/Clean_Audit.scr;
ID_TROButton_3 [_Button("Layer States Manager", "TRO_LayStateSave.bmp",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Clman
ID_TROButton_4 [_Button("Quick Close", "TRO_QuickClose.
BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/QClose.scr;
[--]
ID_TROButton_5 [_Button("Update TRO CAD Tools", "TRO_Update.BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")](command "start" "S:/CADstan/Common/Setup/CAD_Update.vbs")

***HELPSTRINGS

ID_TROBUTTON_0 [The Manual of Professional Practice contains documentation
on our firms standards. Use this frequently.]
ID_TROBUTTON_1 [This button will open up an E-mail to the TRO geeks. You
can ask them about anything CAD or co
mputer related.]
ID_TROBUTTON_2 [This will Purge all, CDGPurge all except for page setups,
and Audit the document fixing any errors 3 times.]
ID_TROBUTTON_3 [This will start the layer states manager for you.]
ID_TROBUTTON_4 [Quick saves and closes active drawing.]
ID_TROBUTTON_5 [By pressing this button you will start the update for TRO
Tools. This will close CAD and copy the needed files to your computer then
open CAD back up.]


//
// End of The Ritchie Organization me
nu file - C:\Program
Files\Autodesk Architectural Desktop 3\Support\tro.mns
//
Message 5 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Howdy neighbor (TRO eh?),

To avoid getting those %&$#! smiley faces, I do the following:

1. Create my custom toolbar (usually as part of a custom lisp command that
loads the partial menu).

2. I create the toolbar menu in it's own unique menu group.

3. While building the toolbar, and creating custom BMP or PNG icons, I save
them to a central network folder in support of this custom partial menu.

4. Then edit the MNS file and hardcode the path into the icon names. In
your example, it could be something like changing:
[_Button("TRO Standards(MoPP)", "TRO_Help.BMP",...] to...
[_Button("TRO Standards(MoPP)", "S:/Cad/Menus/Icons/TRO_Help.BMP",.... ]

5. If your partial menu contains just toolbars, your all set. If your menu
contains pulldown (pop) menus in addition to toolbars, to keep them
synchronized, or when I need to make an edit to the text of a pulldown menu,
I will copy and paste the entire ***TOOLBARS portion of the MNS and replace
the ***TOOLBARS section in the MNU so that they are up-to-date, then make my
text edits in the MNU, then delete the MNS, MNC, MNR to recompile them by
calling up the menu again.

--

Mark McDonough
Sasaki Associates
http://www.sasaki.com

"AlmightySR" wrote in message
news:4840228@discussion.autodesk.com...
I posted this in Customization and VBA but I know that not everyone has all
the groups in their favorites so I'm posting here in the hopes for
information:


I'm willing to bet only autodesk can answer this one(then again...). Here is
the issue.

I created a company tool bar. I made some BMP Icons for the buttons. One of
the icons I was messing around with and made a face. I went ot put it back
the way it was later, and it wouldnt let me. See the attached image. I
un-installed all of ADT 3.3, deleted the directory and re-installed it... it
is still there!! Where the heck is this image file being held!?!?

Here is the men
u file for our tool bar below. I put a ------------> to show
which one is the icon. whats the deal! Please help.

//
// The Ritchie Organization menu file - C:\Program Files\Autodesk
Architectural Desktop 3\Support\tro.mns
//

***MENUGROUP=TRO

***POP1
**TRO
ID_MnTRO [T&RO]
ID_TROButton_10 [TRO &Standards Help]^C^C^P(help "help
"S:/Intranet/doc/Manual of Practice/9997_TRO Manual.chm" ) ^P
ID_TROButton_11 [E-mail .&Geeks](command "start" mailto:help@mail.com)

[--]
ID_TROButton_12 [&Clean and
Audit]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/Clean_Audit.scr;
ID_TROButton_13 [&Layer State Manager]^C^Clman
[--]
ID_TROButton_14 [&Update TRO Tools](command "start"
"S:/CADstan/Common/Setup/CAD_Update.vbs")

***TOOLBARS
**TRO_TOOLS
**TB_TRO_TOOLS
ID_TRO_Tools_0 [_Toolbar("TRO Tools", _Top, _Show, 2, 2, 1)]
ID_TROButton_0 [_Button("TRO Standards(MoPP)", "TRO_Help.BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^C^P(help "S:/Intranet/doc/Manual of Practic
e/9997_TRO
Manual.chm" ) ^P
-----------------> ID_TROButton_1 [_Button("E-mail Geeks about CAD",
"TRO_Geeks.BMP", "Icon_16_Blank")](command "start" mailto:.Help@mail.com)
[--]
ID_TROButton_2 [_Button("Purge, CDGPurge and, Audit", "TRO_CleanUp.bmp",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/Clean_Audit.scr;
ID_TROButton_3 [_Button("Layer States Manager", "TRO_LayStateSave.bmp",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Clman
ID_TROButton_4 [_Button("Quick Close", "TRO_QuickClose.
BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/QClose.scr;
[--]
ID_TROButton_5 [_Button("Update TRO CAD Tools", "TRO_Update.BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")](command "start" "S:/CADstan/Common/Setup/CAD_Update.vbs")

***HELPSTRINGS

ID_TROBUTTON_0 [The Manual of Professional Practice contains documentation
on our firms standards. Use this frequently.]
ID_TROBUTTON_1 [This button will open up an E-mail to the TRO geeks. You
can ask them about anything CAD or co
mputer related.]
ID_TROBUTTON_2 [This will Purge all, CDGPurge all except for page setups,
and Audit the document fixing any errors 3 times.]
ID_TROBUTTON_3 [This will start the layer states manager for you.]
ID_TROBUTTON_4 [Quick saves and closes active drawing.]
ID_TROBUTTON_5 [By pressing this button you will start the update for TRO
Tools. This will close CAD and copy the needed files to your computer then
open CAD back up.]


//
// End of The Ritchie Organization me
nu file - C:\Program
Files\Autodesk Architectural Desktop 3\Support\tro.mns
//
Message 6 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Why you don't try the resource hacker, to create .dll file and store all
your icons in there??
that's how I do it, besides the resource hacker idea is a mix from the
customization group and afralisp.
Elvis
"AlmightySR" wrote in message
news:4840228@discussion.autodesk.com...
I posted this in Customization and VBA but I know that not everyone has all
the groups in their favorites so I'm posting here in the hopes for
information:


I'm willing to bet only autodesk can answer this one(then again...). Here is
the issue.

I created a company tool bar. I made some BMP Icons for the buttons. One of
the icons I was messing around with and made a face. I went ot put it back
the way it was later, and it wouldnt let me. See the attached image. I
un-installed all of ADT 3.3, deleted the directory and re-installed it... it
is still there!! Where the heck is this image file being held!?!?

Here is the men
u file for our tool bar below. I put a ------------> to show
which one is the icon. whats the deal! Please help.

//
// The Ritchie Organization menu file - C:\Program Files\Autodesk
Architectural Desktop 3\Support\tro.mns
//

***MENUGROUP=TRO

***POP1
**TRO
ID_MnTRO [T&RO]
ID_TROButton_10 [TRO &Standards Help]^C^C^P(help "help
"S:/Intranet/doc/Manual of Practice/9997_TRO Manual.chm" ) ^P
ID_TROButton_11 [E-mail .&Geeks](command "start" mailto:help@mail.com)

[--]
ID_TROButton_12 [&Clean and
Audit]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/Clean_Audit.scr;
ID_TROButton_13 [&Layer State Manager]^C^Clman
[--]
ID_TROButton_14 [&Update TRO Tools](command "start"
"S:/CADstan/Common/Setup/CAD_Update.vbs")

***TOOLBARS
**TRO_TOOLS
**TB_TRO_TOOLS
ID_TRO_Tools_0 [_Toolbar("TRO Tools", _Top, _Show, 2, 2, 1)]
ID_TROButton_0 [_Button("TRO Standards(MoPP)", "TRO_Help.BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^C^P(help "S:/Intranet/doc/Manual of Practic
e/9997_TRO
Manual.chm" ) ^P
-----------------> ID_TROButton_1 [_Button("E-mail Geeks about CAD",
"TRO_Geeks.BMP", "Icon_16_Blank")](command "start" mailto:.Help@mail.com)
[--]
ID_TROButton_2 [_Button("Purge, CDGPurge and, Audit", "TRO_CleanUp.bmp",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/Clean_Audit.scr;
ID_TROButton_3 [_Button("Layer States Manager", "TRO_LayStateSave.bmp",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Clman
ID_TROButton_4 [_Button("Quick Close", "TRO_QuickClose.
BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")]^C^Cscript;S:/CADstan/Common/Lisp/QClose.scr;
[--]
ID_TROButton_5 [_Button("Update TRO CAD Tools", "TRO_Update.BMP",
"Icon_16_Blank")](command "start" "S:/CADstan/Common/Setup/CAD_Update.vbs")

***HELPSTRINGS

ID_TROBUTTON_0 [The Manual of Professional Practice contains documentation
on our firms standards. Use this frequently.]
ID_TROBUTTON_1 [This button will open up an E-mail to the TRO geeks. You
can ask them about anything CAD or co
mputer related.]
ID_TROBUTTON_2 [This will Purge all, CDGPurge all except for page setups,
and Audit the document fixing any errors 3 times.]
ID_TROBUTTON_3 [This will start the layer states manager for you.]
ID_TROBUTTON_4 [Quick saves and closes active drawing.]
ID_TROBUTTON_5 [By pressing this button you will start the update for TRO
Tools. This will close CAD and copy the needed files to your computer then
open CAD back up.]


//
// End of The Ritchie Organization me
nu file - C:\Program
Files\Autodesk Architectural Desktop 3\Support\tro.mns
//
Message 7 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

well, if you will-nilly run around deleting files that you don't know
anything about, you're eventually going to be sadly surprised.
which ARG did you delete?
the one your profile is pointed to? probably.
so it then found the new bmp by looking in the new path that was redefined
after you deleted the profile. course when you change the path back your
problem will return because you didn't stop to learn how menu and button
icons work.
carry on.

"AlmightySR" wrote in message
news:4840578@discussion.autodesk.com...
>Solved!
>Figure this out... I remove the ARG file and it works! What the heck is
>that!?! anyway thank you al lfor the help
Message 8 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Probably shoulda been more descriptive... Technically I replaced it with
the defualt back up we have... hence deleteing the old one.

haha... "Willy-Nilly"

"Randall Culp" wrote in message
news:4840821@discussion.autodesk.com...
well, if you will-nilly run around deleting files that you don't know
anything about, you're eventually going to be sadly surprised.
which ARG did you delete?
the one your profile is pointed to? probably.
so it then found the new bmp by looking in the new path that was redefined
after you deleted the profile. course when you change the path back your
problem will return because you didn't stop to learn how menu and button
icons work.
carry on.

"AlmightySR" wrote in message
news:4840578@discussion.autodesk.com...
>Solved!
>Figure this out... I remove the ARG file and it works! What the heck is
>that!?! anyway thank you al lfor the help
Message 9 of 16
slacker
in reply to: Anonymous

Dean,
I have never heard that the MNU and the MNS file must be similar; why do you say that they should be? (Not trying to sound confrontational, just curious.)
I have written many custom menus, and usually just edit the MNS file itself, not the MNU, and have never run across any problems. In fact now that I think about it, I think I might have even made some that didn't have any MNU file at all (years ago)?

Regards,
Craig
Message 10 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

If something happens to curupt the MNS file cad will load the MNU file... I
found that out the hard way 😞


wrote in message news:4842012@discussion.autodesk.com...
Dean,
I have never heard that the MNU and the MNS file must be similar; why do you
say that they should be? (Not trying to sound confrontational, just
curious.)
I have written many custom menus, and usually just edit the MNS file itself,
not the MNU, and have never run across any problems. In fact now that I
think about it, I think I might have even made some that didn't have any MNU
file at all (years ago)?

Regards,
Craig
Message 11 of 16
old-cadaver
in reply to: Anonymous

So the next time you have the dreaded smiley/frownie face problem your solution is going to be...
...what?

Just make sure the directory that contains the BMPs you're using is at the top of the search path.
Message 12 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

It needs to be at the top of the ARG file?, kewl, thank you

I was thinking about using oil paint and brush right onto the monitor next
time 🙂

wrote in message news:4842152@discussion.autodesk.com...
So the next time you have the dreaded smiley/frownie face problem your
solution is going to be...
...what?

Just make sure the directory that contains the BMPs you're using is at the
top of the search path.
Message 13 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

NO, it needs to be at the top of the search path, exactly as posted. ARG is
a file suffix that is used for several different kinds of files within
autocad. I have no idea which arg you replaced or what it was doing. I can
only assume it was the profile arg that was deleted/replaced. The search
path is saved in the profile, but it is edited from the OPTIONS dialog box.


"AlmightySR" wrote in message
news:4842286@discussion.autodesk.com...
It needs to be at the top of the ARG file?, kewl, thank you

I was thinking about using oil paint and brush right onto the monitor next
time 🙂

wrote in message news:4842152@discussion.autodesk.com...
So the next time you have the dreaded smiley/frownie face problem your
solution is going to be...
...what?

Just make sure the directory that contains the BMPs you're using is at the
top of the search path.
Message 14 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I did this and it is still being silly

"Randall Culp" wrote in message
news:4842355@discussion.autodesk.com...
NO, it needs to be at the top of the search path, exactly as posted. ARG is
a file suffix that is used for several different kinds of files within
autocad. I have no idea which arg you replaced or what it was doing. I can
only assume it was the profile arg that was deleted/replaced. The search
path is saved in the profile, but it is edited from the OPTIONS dialog box.


"AlmightySR" wrote in message
news:4842286@discussion.autodesk.com...
It needs to be at the top of the ARG file?, kewl, thank you

I was thinking about using oil paint and brush right onto the monitor next
time 🙂

wrote in message news:4842152@discussion.autodesk.com...
So the next time you have the dreaded smiley/frownie face problem your
solution is going to be...
...what?

Just make sure the directory that contains the BMPs you're using is at the
top of the search path.
Message 15 of 16
old-cadaver
in reply to: Anonymous

<>

You did what, exactly, and what, exactly, happened?
Message 16 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

put the folder at the top of the search. I "hard" linked the BMPs and they
work now. typed the full path to them in the MNS file. Just wish I could
figure out why none of the other methods worked.

wrote in message news:4844407@discussion.autodesk.com...
<>

You did what, exactly, and what, exactly, happened?

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