My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

[Anonymous]

all,

I've never given any prospective employee a "CAD Test," but I was asked to do so
today. I quickly came up with 20 questions which I figured any knowledgable
person who knows the program would be able to hit it out the park.

Instead, I got a serious case of deer-in-the-headlights-itis.

I didn't want to make it version specific, but I understand some questions would
not be answerable for someone running an older release, and gave the person a
pass in those cases.

I also didn't care if the questions were "useful" on a day to day basis; the
idea was to get an idea of how well the user knows AutoCAD.

So, I'll ask you guys: Was this a decent CAD questionnaire?

1. What are the names of the first 7 AutoCAD ACI colors?
1 =
2 =
3 =
4 =
5 =
6 =
7 =

2. What are System Variables? How are they used?

3. When dimensioning in Model space, what DIMSCALE value would you use for
dimensioning for a 3/16"=1'-0" plot?

4. When working with External References (Xrefs) what is the difference between
Overlay and Attach?

5. How would you specify a Viewport scale of 1/4"=1'-0" in a Paper Space
Viewport, using the Command Line?

6. What is a CUI file?

7. What is a fast method for selecting MText objects with a Style of "MEDIUM"?

8. What does the FROM osnap do?

9. What does Zoom Dynamic do?

10. What are the special rules concerning layers and colors in Blocks?

11. If you dimension two parallel walls and get a dimension of 14'-5 13/256",
what do you do?

12. What is one way of dimensioning something along an angle?

13. Explain the difference between the DIVIDE and MEASURE commands.

14. What does PSLTSCALE do?

15. What is an easy way to open an Xref from a parent file?

16. What is an easy way to close a Polyline?

17. What support file do you modify to create custom command aliases?

18. What is the command-line sequence you would use to change all Xref layer
colors to color #8 (gray)?

19. What does BATTMAN do?

20. What command do you use to change your default Plotter?

Extra Credit / Trick Questions:

1. During the MOVE command, what happens if you hit in response to the
"Specify second point or :" prompt?

2. What generally happens when you do a PERPendicular Osnap on a Spline curve?


I had some more trick questions, but since the first 20 didn't go so well, we
just called it a day at that point 😞


Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com

[Anonymous]

yep, some of my favorite people have not been civil engineers.
The fact is, a person good at communicating, and good at the computer will do fine in Civil engineering.
Take away either of those and its a tough road.

Warren Trost
|>As with any test you are looking to find out if a person has real world
|>experience and what he know about the program, not to see if he/she is an
|>expert. Tests are usually designed so that not all questions are going to
|>be answered. I have a binder I found on the net that is a couple of inches
|>thick and about 40 lessons that was from a course test. I would hate to
|>think that any of us would have to have a 95% correctness on this to get
|>employed but it does show just how much a person is willing to learn on
|>their own after hours by just reading. As with any test it also has to be
|>discipline specific as I don't know surveying methods as you may not know
|>structural ones, etc.
|>
|>

James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - at - hunsaker - dotcom

[Anonymous]

So drawing a line 5 units long using Ortho plus and entered distance,
entering out of the line command, starting Arc from the keyboard, hitting
enter on the mouse and the entering @5,-5 would be acceptable?

Command: l LINE Specify first point:
Specify next point or [Undo]: 5
Specify next point or [Undo]:

Command: a
ARC Specify start point of arc or [Center]:
Specify end point of arc: @5,-5

Oh.And I like your bearing reversal in question 4. You have to reverse the
bearing on the second leg.

Allen

"James Maeding" wrote in message
news:5572429@discussion.autodesk.com...
I was checking to see if the user could draw the lines any way they wanted.
Also, to see if they knew what "tangent" meant.
If its a person claiming to be experienced, I watch their keyboard and mouse
habits, that gives it away in about 10
seconds.
I never just test though, I talk to the person about various things. You
don't want to miss talent.
You also don't want to come up with an opinion totally different than the
managers as they are usually good in their
assesment of general skills. Talking is necessary.


Allen Jessup
|>In question #2 of are you just looking for the line and arc to be drawn
|>correctly or are you looking to see if the applicant knows how to
|>automatically draw a tangent arc or line without using any of the LDT
|>commands?
|>
|>Allen
|>

James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - at - hunsaker - dotcom

[Anonymous]

Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
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knock knock....

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"Guess Who" wrote in message
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hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
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hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
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We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

what's your email?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

you gotta say "who's there"... 😉

ok... here, my turn:

ice cream soda....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club

C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

you dummy... figure it out!


--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club

C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572665@discussion.autodesk.com...
what's your email?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

I aint one of them smart guys I was talking about.

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572677@discussion.autodesk.com...
you dummy... figure it out!


--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club

C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572665@discussion.autodesk.com...
what's your email?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

Okay, okay...ice cream soda who?

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572675@discussion.autodesk.com...
you gotta say "who's there"... 😉

ok... here, my turn:

ice cream soda....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club

C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

true dat.....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....


"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572674@discussion.autodesk.com...
I aint one of them smart guys I was talking about.

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572677@discussion.autodesk.com...
you dummy... figure it out!


--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club

C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572665@discussion.autodesk.com...
what's your email?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

ice cream soda whole neighborhood can hear me!

BWAHAHAHA!

sorry..... that was in my daughter's highlight magazine i read to her last
night..... :))

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....


"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572684@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, okay...ice cream soda who?

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572675@discussion.autodesk.com...
you gotta say "who's there"... 😉

ok... here, my turn:

ice cream soda....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club

C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

HEY, do the highlight magazines still have the page where you gotta find all
the stuff that's hidden? I used to circle them all in the doctor's
office...I bet I pissed off a bunch of kids when they opened the page.

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572712@discussion.autodesk.com...
ice cream soda whole neighborhood can hear me!

BWAHAHAHA!

sorry..... that was in my daughter's highlight magazine i read to her last
night..... :))

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....


"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572684@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, okay...ice cream soda who?

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572675@discussion.autodesk.com...
you gotta say "who's there"... 😉

ok... here, my turn:

ice cream soda....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club

C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

Of course they do! silly.... they even release a calendar with a new one
every month! 🙂 they even have a highlights magazine for younger children
(less than 6 yo) that i got for my son......

so YOU were the one who did that.... you ssabottle!

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DISAPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....


"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572716@discussion.autodesk.com...
HEY, do the highlight magazines still have the page where you gotta find all
the stuff that's hidden? I used to circle them all in the doctor's
office...I bet I pissed off a bunch of kids when they opened the page.

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572712@discussion.autodesk.com...
ice cream soda whole neighborhood can hear me!

BWAHAHAHA!

sorry..... that was in my daughter's highlight magazine i read to her last
night..... :))

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....


"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572684@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, okay...ice cream soda who?

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572675@discussion.autodesk.com...
you gotta say "who's there"... 😉

ok... here, my turn:

ice cream soda....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club

C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

Kate,
FWIW they're harmless......
and we do have alot of fun and get great info over there ------------>>

Jen

--
Hard work spotlights the character of people:
some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses,
and some don't turn up at all.
--
Sam Ewing







"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572684@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, okay...ice cream soda who?

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572675@discussion.autodesk.com...
you gotta say "who's there"... 😉

ok... here, my turn:

ice cream soda....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club

C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, right now were are having an in depth discussion about Teletubbies.

"Slappy" wrote in message
news:5572741@discussion.autodesk.com...
Kate,
FWIW they're harmless......
and we do have alot of fun and get great info over there ------------>>

Jen

--
Hard work spotlights the character of people:
some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses,
and some don't turn up at all.
--
Sam Ewing







"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572684@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, okay...ice cream soda who?

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572675@discussion.autodesk.com...
you gotta say "who's there"... 😉

ok... here, my turn:

ice cream soda....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club

C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a
> parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.

[Anonymous]

yes, perfect, in fact.
Heck, i'd be impressed by the fact that you knew the @ method of entry.

Even though I specify bearings on the test, I never draw them by typing the bearing.
I draw a vert line, then rotate with - for CCW if needed, or regular for CW.
The thing I am looking for on that is knowing to type d for degrees - 10d22'33"

I also watch the user to see if they are toolbar addicted. If they are, I offer them a referral to Schick Shadel
Hospital for rehab .
I'm kidding but I do tell every heavy toolbar user that they will never be as fast as a key-in person, everything else
being equal. I do it in a nice way, but firend don't let friends drive toolbars....maybe a few here and there though...

Allen Jessup
|>So drawing a line 5 units long using Ortho plus and entered distance,
|>entering out of the line command, starting Arc from the keyboard, hitting
|>enter on the mouse and the entering @5,-5 would be acceptable?
|>
|>Command: l LINE Specify first point:
|>Specify next point or [Undo]: 5
|>Specify next point or [Undo]:
|>
|>Command: a
|>ARC Specify start point of arc or [Center]:
|>Specify end point of arc: @5,-5
|>
|>Oh.And I like your bearing reversal in question 4. You have to reverse the
|>bearing on the second leg.
|>
|>Allen
|>
|>"James Maeding" wrote in message
|>news:5572429@discussion.autodesk.com...
|>I was checking to see if the user could draw the lines any way they wanted.
|>Also, to see if they knew what "tangent" meant.
|>If its a person claiming to be experienced, I watch their keyboard and mouse
|>habits, that gives it away in about 10
|>seconds.
|>I never just test though, I talk to the person about various things. You
|>don't want to miss talent.
|>You also don't want to come up with an opinion totally different than the
|>managers as they are usually good in their
|>assesment of general skills. Talking is necessary.
|>
|>
|>Allen Jessup
|>|>In question #2 of are you just looking for the line and arc to be drawn
|>|>correctly or are you looking to see if the applicant knows how to
|>|>automatically draw a tangent arc or line without using any of the LDT
|>|>commands?
|>|>
|>|>Allen
|>|>
|>
|>James Maeding
|>Civil Engineer and Programmer
|>jmaeding - at - hunsaker - dotcom
James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - at - hunsaker - dotcom

[Anonymous]

Guess Who wrote:
> Yeah, right now were are having an in depth discussion about Teletubbies.

And don't forget pics of baby boids...

[Anonymous]

wow, just read this. I never knew we were allowed to ask our new hires to do all that! I'll have to try it out and see
what I'm missing, THANKS.

jpostlewait <>
|>How about something more realistic for entry level Cad staff.
|>I'm a dirt guy but will try to take a swing at the Archies.
|>
|>1.) I need twenty signed sets at City Hall by 4 o'clock and that one hallway needs to be 8 feet wide and I got to run.
|>Can you do it?
|>
|>2.) The Contractor called with a question can you take care of it?
|>
|>3) The surveyor called and said the building didn't add up. Take care of it, I have a luncheon.
|>
|>4) The client requested a 3D building model on monday with a walk thru presentation, I told him yes. You can have all the time you want.
|>
|>5.) Can we have some different colors on that stuff, I like it but just some tweeks.
|>
|>6) I don't like that Column there, get back to that Structural guy, you know what's his name, and tell him if it doesn't move this submittal goes south.
|>
|>7) Can you find me a lunch tomorrow?
James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - at - hunsaker - dotcom

[Anonymous]

So what is your task list, Dean?
It would be interesting to see what you would ask.


Dean Saadallah
|>Very 'wordy' responses required, assuming they've even cracked open
|>the CUI and other customizations/what ifs type of questions.
|>I find timed task based/drawing test work better, it makes the test
|>taker more comfortable, relaxed and less likely to give me the "right"
|>answer but to show me.
|>
|>--
|>Dean Saadallah
|>Add-on products for LT
|>http://www.pendean.com/lt
James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - at - hunsaker - dotcom

[Anonymous]

On Wed, 2 May 2007 19:52:27 +0000, James Maeding
wrote:

>I'm kidding but I do tell every heavy toolbar user that they will never be as fast as a key-in person, everything else
>being equal. I do it in a nice way, but firend don't let friends drive toolbars....maybe a few here and there though...

I don't agree - there is a road to command line salvation. All it takes is a
person who wants to get better at what they do, and has an interest in how the
program runs.

I remember when I learned AutoCAD I had a Summasketch 12x12 digitizer. I LOVED
that thing. Never thought I could draw effectively without having to look down
at pick on the little picture to launch a command. Kind of like the young kids
today, who short circuit if they don't have the DRAW toolbar front and center on
their screen.

Later I got used to typing in commands and picking less. Then the only thing
going for it was the 4 buttons on the cursor that I could program, rather than
the anemic 2 buttons on your average mouse. Once I got a three button mouse, and
could program it to do what I wanted, I didn't need the digitizer at all. Which
is why I sort of skipped toolbars, for the most part. I have three or four on my
workspace, but only for things I don't use on a minute by minute basis.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com

[Anonymous]

There's also some guy that keeps talking 'bout his dang Amigo too.


Carrion.


"Guess Who" wrote in message news:5572732@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yeah, right now were are having an in depth discussion about Teletubbies.

"Slappy" wrote in message
news:5572741@discussion.autodesk.com...
Kate,
FWIW they're harmless......
and we do have alot of fun and get great info over there ------------>>

Jen

--
Hard work spotlights the character of people:
some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses,
and some don't turn up at all.
--
Sam Ewing







"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572684@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, okay...ice cream soda who?

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572675@discussion.autodesk.com...
you gotta say "who's there"... 😉

ok... here, my turn:

ice cream soda....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club

C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5572649@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay, I'll bite. 🙂

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5572280@discussion.autodesk.com...
knock knock....

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America
Member =====> Ted Nugent Fan Club
C3DPOS dual 19's Matrox 650-128 XPpro sp2 dual P 3 Ghz 2GB ram
eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5572207@discussion.autodesk.com...
hello?

"Guess Who" wrote in message
news:5571292@discussion.autodesk.com...
hey, do you like off topic newsgroups with the smartest ACAD peeps ever?

"Kate M" wrote in message
news:5571243@discussion.autodesk.com...
We keep forgetting to mention that parallel cannot be used to pick the first
point of a line...only the second.

Does that help?

"Fred" wrote in message
news:5571147@discussion.autodesk.com...
Steven Ondrias wrote:
> oh, that's cuz you need to get away from the line, back to where a parallel
> line would be.... IOW, hover over the line, and go back to the point where
> you started the line.... cornfusing, i know, but makes sense after you see
> it work..... can't see too many uses for a civil environment though.......
> maybe laying out a parking lot.
>
I wish I could show you what my screen looks like. Not a single
parallel line.