Forums Slow with Outlook Express?

[Anonymous]

Is this happening for others besides me? I use Outlook Express newsreader
for the forums, and reading messages here is really hanging! The Autodesk
forums have alway exhibited intermittent hanging for me, (Microsoft and
other forums never exhibit this), but almost every other message here I
click on today is hanging for 10-20 seconds! I can then go to Microsoft
forums, and no problems at all, then back here, and hanging again?

I didn't know where elase to post this, but hopefully one of the forum
monitors will pass some word along to Autodesk.

John

[Anonymous]

I use OE and timeouts are indeed frequent However, NNTP functions just like
HTTP and is a "round trip" protocol meaning the news server must send a
response code back to the requesting application (OE) before OE can download
or display a news article. OE must wait on that response code just like any
other software must.

That said, I'm about ready to dump OE anyway and go back to Agent [1] even
though Forte now requires payment. Free Agent can still be found however...

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php

"John Schmidt" wrote in message
news:5533532@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is this happening for others besides me? I use Outlook Express newsreader
for the forums, and reading messages here is really hanging! The Autodesk
forums have alway exhibited intermittent hanging for me, (Microsoft and
other forums never exhibit this), but almost every other message here I
click on today is hanging for 10-20 seconds! I can then go to Microsoft
forums, and no problems at all, then back here, and hanging again?

I didn't know where elase to post this, but hopefully one of the forum
monitors will pass some word along to Autodesk.

John

[Anonymous]

yup

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monitoring spam.


"John Schmidt" wrote in message
news:5533532@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is this happening for others besides me?

[Anonymous]

Try xnews

clintonG wrote:
> I use OE and timeouts are indeed frequent However, NNTP functions just like
> HTTP and is a "round trip" protocol meaning the news server must send a
> response code back to the requesting application (OE) before OE can download
> or display a news article. OE must wait on that response code just like any
> other software must.
>
> That said, I'm about ready to dump OE anyway and go back to Agent [1] even
> though Forte now requires payment. Free Agent can still be found however...
>
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>
> [1] http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php
>
> "John Schmidt" wrote in message
> news:5533532@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Is this happening for others besides me? I use Outlook Express newsreader
> for the forums, and reading messages here is really hanging! The Autodesk
> forums have alway exhibited intermittent hanging for me, (Microsoft and
> other forums never exhibit this), but almost every other message here I
> click on today is hanging for 10-20 seconds! I can then go to Microsoft
> forums, and no problems at all, then back here, and hanging again?
>
> I didn't know where elase to post this, but hopefully one of the forum
> monitors will pass some word along to Autodesk.
>
> John

[Anonymous]

I'm getting that more today than usual - OE6

"John Schmidt" wrote in message
news:5533532@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is this happening for others besides me? I use Outlook Express newsreader
for the forums, and reading messages here is really hanging! The Autodesk
forums have alway exhibited intermittent hanging for me, (Microsoft and
other forums never exhibit this), but almost every other message here I
click on today is hanging for 10-20 seconds! I can then go to Microsoft
forums, and no problems at all, then back here, and hanging again?

I didn't know where elase to post this, but hopefully one of the forum
monitors will pass some word along to Autodesk.

John

[Anonymous]

John Schmidt said the following On 3/28/2007 11:00 AM:
> Is this happening for others besides me?

Yes. Using Thunderbird.


--
R.K. McSwain
http://rkmcswain.blogspot.com

[Anonymous]

Yes, this news server seems slow today.


"John Schmidt" wrote in message
news:5533532@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is this happening for others besides me? I use Outlook Express newsreader
for the forums, and reading messages here is really hanging! The Autodesk
forums have alway exhibited intermittent hanging for me, (Microsoft and
other forums never exhibit this), but almost every other message here I
click on today is hanging for 10-20 seconds! I can then go to Microsoft
forums, and no problems at all, then back here, and hanging again?

I didn't know where elase to post this, but hopefully one of the forum
monitors will pass some word along to Autodesk.

John

[Anonymous]

Yes. I've noticed it in OE and doing searches on the web side is ponderous.
Took nearly 4 minutes to get a result from the one I did about a half hour
ago.

Allen

"John Schmidt" wrote in message
news:5533532@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is this happening for others besides me? I use Outlook Express newsreader
for the forums, and reading messages here is really hanging! The Autodesk
forums have alway exhibited intermittent hanging for me, (Microsoft and
other forums never exhibit this), but almost every other message here I
click on today is hanging for 10-20 seconds! I can then go to Microsoft
forums, and no problems at all, then back here, and hanging again?

I didn't know where elase to post this, but hopefully one of the forum
monitors will pass some word along to Autodesk.

John

[Anonymous]

I've done that and I didn't like the single window user interface. I've read
that xnews is good for binary large file transfer over NNTP. Is it?

I've been working with Agent all afternoon and its become convoluted with
featuritis which is why I continued to use OE in the first place. OE is
"fast" in the user interface because its easy to use but yes it is a
protocol pig. OE has a poor data management layer as we've all experienced.
Starting it up for example is a wait for it to read all of the indexed
files, their headers and any downloaded content used by all the folders and
groups used for messaging. Well designed software does that on demand when
its needed. That's the big thing on the web these days by the way; the
response to page requests are returned only for those parts of the page that
actually need to be refereshed. Its called AJAX.

So I need a hybrid solution. I'm really going to try again and setup xnews
for sending and receiving binary files and I'll continue to use OE for text
messaging.

What do you use for an RSS client?

--
<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/




"Jerry G" wrote in message
news:5533623@discussion.autodesk.com...
Try xnews

clintonG wrote:
> I use OE and timeouts are indeed frequent However, NNTP functions just
> like
> HTTP and is a "round trip" protocol meaning the news server must send a
> response code back to the requesting application (OE) before OE can
> download
> or display a news article. OE must wait on that response code just like
> any
> other software must.
>
> That said, I'm about ready to dump OE anyway and go back to Agent [1]
> even
> though Forte now requires payment. Free Agent can still be found
> however...
>
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>
> [1] http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php
>
> "John Schmidt" wrote in message
> news:5533532@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Is this happening for others besides me? I use Outlook Express newsreader
> for the forums, and reading messages here is really hanging! The Autodesk
> forums have alway exhibited intermittent hanging for me, (Microsoft and
> other forums never exhibit this), but almost every other message here I
> click on today is hanging for 10-20 seconds! I can then go to Microsoft
> forums, and no problems at all, then back here, and hanging again?
>
> I didn't know where elase to post this, but hopefully one of the forum
> monitors will pass some word along to Autodesk.
>
> John

[Anonymous]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:57:36 +0000, clintonG
wrote:

>I've been working with Agent all afternoon and its become convoluted with
>featuritis which is why I continued to use OE in the first place.

Try the older 2.0 version.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com

[Anonymous]

Xnews is great for binaries and handles multiple servers better than
Agent. Its main disadvantage is that it reloads the message headers
every time you use it, so if you frequently go to the same large
newsgroup frequently, shutting the groups down between times, you have
to wait while it grabs all the headers off the server. I use Mozilla
Thunderbird for mail and non-binary newsgroups, but it is positively
horrible for multi-part binaries.

I don't do RSS so have no opinion there.

clintonG wrote:
> I've done that and I didn't like the single window user interface. I've read
> that xnews is good for binary large file transfer over NNTP. Is it?
>
> I've been working with Agent all afternoon and its become convoluted with
> featuritis which is why I continued to use OE in the first place. OE is
> "fast" in the user interface because its easy to use but yes it is a
> protocol pig. OE has a poor data management layer as we've all experienced.
> Starting it up for example is a wait for it to read all of the indexed
> files, their headers and any downloaded content used by all the folders and
> groups used for messaging. Well designed software does that on demand when
> its needed. That's the big thing on the web these days by the way; the
> response to page requests are returned only for those parts of the page that
> actually need to be refereshed. Its called AJAX.
>
> So I need a hybrid solution. I'm really going to try again and setup xnews
> for sending and receiving binary files and I'll continue to use OE for text
> messaging.
>
> What do you use for an RSS client?
>

[Anonymous]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:27:12 +0000, Jerry G wrote:

>Xnews is great for binaries and handles multiple servers better than
>Agent.

In older (2.0) versions of Agent, you needed to create separate folders with
their own agent.ini file to handle multiple servers. No real big deal, and it
actually keeps things nice and tidy.

With later versions, multiple-server handling is built in.

Matt (long time Agent fan)
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com

[Anonymous]

I switched to Xnews a long time ago and never looked back. At the time
my isp at home had issues with nntp and would go from extremely good one
day to atrocious the next. They would arbitrarily decide to drop
newsgroups from time to time because "they're used for software piracy,"
then get all of them back including kiddie-porn a month later. They
would allocate a full server with maximum bandwidth one week and the
next decide to limit bandwidth to 1-T1 for the entire state of Florida.
So I subscribed to an independent news server, but when my isp was
running good I preferred them for speed and having a much higher cap on
dl's. So having an easy way to handle multiple servers was preferred, as
was the Xnews multi-threaded downloading (download from more than one
group at a time.)

Matt Stachoni wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:27:12 +0000, Jerry G wrote:
>
>> Xnews is great for binaries and handles multiple servers better than
>> Agent.
>
> In older (2.0) versions of Agent, you needed to create separate folders with
> their own agent.ini file to handle multiple servers. No real big deal, and it
> actually keeps things nice and tidy.
>
> With later versions, multiple-server handling is built in.
>
> Matt (long time Agent fan)
> mstachoni@comcast.net
> mstachoni@bhhtait.com

[Anonymous]

I went to the web to look for an older release of Agent and I found Binary
News Reaper [1] which needs a bit of help file reading but has a clean no
nonsense UI and is quite speedy for large or encoded (yEnc) files.

Still looking for an older release of Agent though...

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://www.bnr2.org/


"Matt Stachoni" wrote in message
news:5535137@discussion.autodesk.com...
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:27:12 +0000, Jerry G wrote:

>Xnews is great for binaries and handles multiple servers better than
>Agent.

In older (2.0) versions of Agent, you needed to create separate folders with
their own agent.ini file to handle multiple servers. No real big deal, and
it
actually keeps things nice and tidy.

With later versions, multiple-server handling is built in.

Matt (long time Agent fan)
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com

[Anonymous]

the entire internet was slow this morning... someone must have contacted Al
Gore about the problem and he got on it right away.

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America


"John Schmidt" wrote in message
news:5533532@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is this happening for others besides me? I use Outlook Express newsreader
for the forums, and reading messages here is really hanging! The Autodesk
forums have alway exhibited intermittent hanging for me, (Microsoft and
other forums never exhibit this), but almost every other message here I
click on today is hanging for 10-20 seconds! I can then go to Microsoft
forums, and no problems at all, then back here, and hanging again?

I didn't know where elase to post this, but hopefully one of the forum
monitors will pass some word along to Autodesk.

John

[Anonymous]

aint Agent an imperialistic form of a newsreader?

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America

[Anonymous]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:41:16 +0000, Steven Ondrias
wrote:

>aint Agent an imperialistic form of a newsreader?

More of a compassionate dictator.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com

[Anonymous]

Well I've been using OE (pleased to say it works OK - just not fantastic -
for me) since my trial of Tbird in late Spring of last year.

Clinton's posts take the longest to load, I've noticed in this particular
thread.

Most everybody else's have loaded in about 1 to 1.5 seconds.

Clinton's have taken almost 5 seconds to load.

Autodesk's implementation of the "black and white" background recently,
together with their revision to their WebPage's format seems to have added
considerable time for their WebPages to fully load nowadays.

And just to add a little more fervor to this thread...

In the "Discussion Group" shown in the conference room on this particular
WebPage:
http://tinyurl.com/49omm

...anybody else notice there's only one gender group showing there?
:-o

--
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"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
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!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

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"The only Constant is Change".

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5535406@discussion.autodesk.com...
the entire internet was slow this morning... someone must have contacted Al
Gore about the problem and he got on it right away.

--
Steven Ondrias, Technician
President =====> Hunters of Texas
VP =====> Amigo and Jetta Society of America


"John Schmidt" wrote in message
news:5533532@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is this happening for others besides me? I use Outlook Express newsreader
for the forums, and reading messages here is really hanging! The Autodesk
forums have alway exhibited intermittent hanging for me, (Microsoft and
other forums never exhibit this), but almost every other message here I
click on today is hanging for 10-20 seconds! I can then go to Microsoft
forums, and no problems at all, then back here, and hanging again?

I didn't know where elase to post this, but hopefully one of the forum
monitors will pass some word along to Autodesk.

John

[Anonymous]

Loading through IE 7 works just fine.

[Anonymous]

Um, yeah... I noticed that, too, first thing.

Stuck out like a bit of a sore thumb, it did.

~shrug~ But, I'm far more irritated with all of the changed hyperlinks
on the main site not forwarding than I am about the less than stellar
graphics at the top of this page.

Melanie Perry
***not all who wander are lost***
http://mistressofthedorkness.blogspot.com

Don Reichle wrote:
>
> In the "Discussion Group" shown in the conference room on this particular
> WebPage:
> http://tinyurl.com/49omm
>
> ...anybody else notice there's only one gender group showing there?
> 😮
>