CADD Competance Test

[Anonymous]

I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to screen
job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this but so
far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help you
could give me.

Thanking You in Advance

[Anonymous]

Try www.progressprint.com

hth

jason martin
frankfurt-short-bruza

[Anonymous]

Depends on your discipline or services.

This can be an easy drawing exercise, managing entity, layers, dimension,
limits.

Simply create a template of a finished drawing and have the person follow
your office standards.

Then set a given time to complete the exercise.

1. Track time
2. Office standards procedures, like layers, text, size, placement, etc.

Let's face it, you know when someone's drawn something correctly, using
fillet, offset, layering, dimensioning.

You'd be surprised to see how many people take an hour to complete something
that should only take 10 min. to draw.

But if the person can complete it in 5 min and drawn correctly, hire them
right away.

--

Rudy@Cadentity.com
Practical Utilities for Productive Solutions
'Block Attribute Assistant' - Available Jan. 1 2001!
www.Cadentity.com

Laura Cox wrote in message
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> I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to screen
> job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this but
so
> far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help you
> could give me.
>
> Thanking You in Advance
>

[Anonymous]

Laura,

I will send you several tests outside of the NG. If anyone else needs them,
please let me know.

-Phillip

Laura Cox wrote in message
news:B53D0025B20163726D76617C893D01E5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to screen
> job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this but
so
> far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help you
> could give me.
>
> Thanking You in Advance
>

[Anonymous]

Would it be possible for you to send them to me as well? Thanks in advance ricej@trusjoist.com

[Anonymous]

Phillip, please send me a copy of this test also.

Thank you

John E. Bible

Phillip Shivel wrote in message
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> Laura,
>
> I will send you several tests outside of the NG. If anyone else needs
them,
> please let me know.
>
> -Phillip
>
> Laura Cox wrote in message
> news:B53D0025B20163726D76617C893D01E5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to
screen
> > job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this
but
> so
> > far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help
you
> > could give me.
> >
> > Thanking You in Advance
> >
>

[Anonymous]

Phillip,

I would also like to see copies of this test.

Gregory Matthews
IT / CADD Director
gmatthews@spaden.com

"Phillip Shivel" wrote in message
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> Laura,
>
> I will send you several tests outside of the NG. If anyone else needs
them,
> please let me know.
>
> -Phillip
>
> Laura Cox wrote in message
> news:B53D0025B20163726D76617C893D01E5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to
screen
> > job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this
but
> so
> > far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help
you
> > could give me.
> >
> > Thanking You in Advance
> >
>

[Anonymous]

Phillip -

Why not post the test to customer files rather than having a bunch of "me too's". That
way anyone who wants them can simply go get them.

tia

jason martin
frankfurt-short-bruza

"Phillip Shivel" wrote in message
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> Laura,
>
> I will send you several tests outside of the NG. If anyone else needs them,
> please let me know.
>
> -Phillip
>

[Anonymous]

Tests DON'T work. A user can be proficient with the CAD application, but
not know from a hole in the ground in regards to thier occupation.
Also the user can be extremely proficient in their occupation, but cannot
operate a computer.

I have heard that how tests are administered can land you in legal hot
water.

brian-

"Laura Cox" wrote in message
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> I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to screen
> job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this but
so
> far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help you
> could give me.
>
> Thanking You in Advance
> Message was edited by: Discussion Admin

[Anonymous]

any chance of posting those tests on the Customrer Files group?

[Anonymous]

Agreed. The best test is 90 days of "probation" where if the person is a
dunce you can send them down the road. I have seen absolute CAD geniuses
who did not know what a road profile was for, as well as great design
engineers who thought a polyline was the San Andreas.... Given the choice,
I'd stick with the San Andreas guy (or gal) and teach them CAD "the company
way".

Tom B

"Brian Debelius" <_@_.com> wrote in message
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Tests DON'T work. A user can be proficient with the CAD application, but
not know thier ass from a hole in the ground in regards to thier occupation.
Also the user can be extremely proficient in their occupation, but cannot
operate a computer.

I have heard that how tests are administered can land you in legal hot
water.

brian-

"Laura Cox" wrote in message
news:B53D0025B20163726D76617C893D01E5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to screen
> job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this but
so
> far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help you
> could give me.
>
> Thanking You in Advance
>

[Anonymous]

I may be missing the big boat here guys but I think the idea of a CADD
competency test is only a part of the hiring process. I do agree that one
who has limited cad skills with great experience and design skills may (and
I stress 'may') have the edge over one who can draw like a wiz but doesn't
know squat about the discipline they are applying for. But I do think a
CADD competency test is no different than part of the interview in the fact
that one is simply asking how much you know about this area of the job.
Personnally I would not base my hiring of an applicant simply by the results
of a CADD test.

John E. Bible

Brian Debelius <_@_.com> wrote in message
news:917A3BEBBB0993568F9788F3DC456560@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Tests DON'T work. A user can be proficient with the CAD application, but
> not know thier ass from a hole in the ground in regards to thier
occupation.
> Also the user can be extremely proficient in their occupation, but cannot
> operate a computer.
>
> I have heard that how tests are administered can land you in legal hot
> water.
>
> brian-
>
> "Laura Cox" wrote in message
> news:B53D0025B20163726D76617C893D01E5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to
screen
> > job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this
but
> so
> > far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help
you
> > could give me.
> >
> > Thanking You in Advance
> >
>

[Anonymous]

The best bet when evaluating a possible new employee is for the CAD Manager
(or person with a good solid knowledge of AutoCAD) to playa small part in
the interview process. On a resume someone can say that they have used
AutoCAD for 5 years but what they don't tell you is that they have used it 5
times over a 5 year period. You may wish to develop a form of AutoCAD
interview that would ask leading questions that you would definitely get a
feeling if they have used the product before. I agree that tests aren't the
best avenue, it might be better termed as an "AutoCAD Evaluation" that would
ask a lot of surface knowledge questions (nothing real deep) as well as some
face to face discussion. The only "legal" ramifications is when you term it
as a certification and place a price on it, in fact AutoDesk has gotten away
from their certification exams and are going down another path.

-Phillip

Tom B wrote in message
news:C9D256B7BA7D55BC43E981145EC081CD@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Agreed. The best test is 90 days of "probation" where if the person is a
> dunce you can send them down the road. I have seen absolute CAD geniuses
> who did not know what a road profile was for, as well as great design
> engineers who thought a polyline was the San Andreas.... Given the
choice,
> I'd stick with the San Andreas guy (or gal) and teach them CAD "the
company
> way".
>
> Tom B
>
> "Brian Debelius" <_@_.com> wrote in message
> news:917A3BEBBB0993568F9788F3DC456560@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Tests DON'T work. A user can be proficient with the CAD application, but
> not know thier ass from a hole in the ground in regards to thier
occupation.
> Also the user can be extremely proficient in their occupation, but cannot
> operate a computer.
>
> I have heard that how tests are administered can land you in legal hot
> water.
>
> brian-
>
> "Laura Cox" wrote in message
> news:B53D0025B20163726D76617C893D01E5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to
screen
> > job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this
but
> so
> > far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help
you
> > could give me.
> >
> > Thanking You in Advance
> >
>

[Anonymous]

Talk to someone in HR about using tests, as someone else alluded to, you can
land is serious hot water giving tests to applicants.

Kent Elrod
Facilities Design
Sumitomo Sitix Silicon, Inc
Albuquerque, New Mexico
kelrod@stopspam.ssaq.sitix.com
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"Laura Cox" wrote in message
news:B53D0025B20163726D76617C893D01E5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to screen
> job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this but
so
> far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help you
> could give me.
>
> Thanking You in Advance
>

[Anonymous]

I am interested in the test as well....

thanks!

--
Mike Veilleux
CAD Manager
LBG, Inc.
Veilleux@lbghq.com
www.lbgweb.com

"Phillip Shivel" wrote in message
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> Laura,
>
> I will send you several tests outside of the NG. If anyone else needs
them,
> please let me know.
>
> -Phillip
>
> Laura Cox wrote in message
> news:B53D0025B20163726D76617C893D01E5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to
screen
> > job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this
but
> so
> > far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help
you
> > could give me.
> >
> > Thanking You in Advance
> >
>

[Anonymous]

I recently had an interview with a company will gave me a test (noted by CAD
Manager as not a pass/fail test). It was basically a "draw what you see
while I see how you go about it" test, if you can really call it a test.
After I was done, we wanted me to mirror the object and text, keeping the
text the same. I typed in MIRRTEXT, and he then told me to stop because he
knew I knew how to do it. And the final test was to draw a 5' radius
circle. Trick question...I knew I was using decimal units, so I formatted
units to Arch., he said a lot of people get it wrong. Most of the drafters
there are 3 yrs + exp., just like me. Believe me, it wasn't a hard test,
but I can see what it shows an employer. I guess my point is that it was a
test, but not a written test, more of an exercise of how one works with CAD.
Just waiting on the hiring approval to come in, so I can turn my resignation
in.

--
Thanks,
Brandon
"Sometimes they write what I say and not what I mean."

"Kent Elrod" wrote in message
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> Talk to someone in HR about using tests, as someone else alluded to, you
can
> land is serious hot water giving tests to applicants.

[Anonymous]

I would like a copy of these tests too please.
Thanks

--

Roger Schregardus
IS Manager
Excel Engineering, Inc.
roger.s@excelengineer.com

"Phillip Shivel" wrote in message
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> Laura,
>
> I will send you several tests outside of the NG. If anyone else needs
them,
> please let me know.
>
> -Phillip
>
> Laura Cox wrote in message
> news:B53D0025B20163726D76617C893D01E5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to
screen
> > job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this
but
> so
> > far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help
you
> > could give me.
> >
> > Thanking You in Advance
> >
>

[Anonymous]

I'll go ahead and throw in another "me too" since I didn't see them in the
customer-files group. Thanks. mdg@wallacesc.com

matthew g.

"Phillip Shivel" wrote in message
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> Laura,
>
> I will send you several tests outside of the NG. If anyone else needs
them,
> please let me know.
>
> -Phillip
>

[Anonymous]

ditto for me also

Kevin Ulm
CAD Coordinator
International Knife & Saw

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Shivel [mailto:pshivel@hotmail.com]
Posted At: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:01 AM
Posted To: cadmanager
Conversation: CADD Competance Test
Subject: Re: CADD Competance Test

Laura,

I will send you several tests outside of the NG. If anyone else needs
them,
please let me know.

-Phillip

Laura Cox wrote in message
news:B53D0025B20163726D76617C893D01E5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to
screen
> job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this
but
so
> far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help
you
> could give me.
>
> Thanking You in Advance
>

[Anonymous]

philip i would also like a copy of these test!!

tia
Roger D. Shaw
"Phillip Shivel" wrote in message
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> Laura,
>
> I will send you several tests outside of the NG. If anyone else needs
them,
> please let me know.
>
> -Phillip
>
> Laura Cox wrote in message
> news:B53D0025B20163726D76617C893D01E5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I have been asked to put together some kind of a quick CADD test to
screen
> > job applicants. I know I have seen an example of something like this
but
> so
> > far my searches have not been successful. I would appreciate any help
you
> > could give me.
> >
> > Thanking You in Advance
> >
>