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Message 1 of 18
Anonymous
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Antivirus Solutions

Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?

We are considering a switch from NAV.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

...Rick
17 REPLIES 17
Message 2 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Funny, we're considering a switch from ETrust v6 to NAV. My biggest problem
with Etrust v6 is that there is no way to verify that it's actually scanning
anything. Well, that's not really true. There are 'logs' buried in the
admin screens that are supposed to report info, but I can't say I trust
them. We recently had an issue where some small viruses were coming through
as attachments and were actually caught by Outlook XP's 'enhanced' security.
That was our clue that the mail scanner wasn't working. A closer look
revealed that the mail scanner option - which can only be found by right
clicking the tray icon on the mail server's task bar - was not checked BUT
the label next to it claimed it was running. Digging into the logs showed
that, in fact, the definition updates had stopped updating 3 months earlier
(never could figure out why). After a total of about 6 hours (on and off)
with CA Tech support and about 6 patches later, we resolved the problem (I
think). As we were downloading patches, I kept thinking that I could never
have done this on my own as the updates were not documented very well
(IMHO). CA seems dedicated to supporting and updating their product, just
have a hard time communicating it. And the 'help files' are seriously
lacking.

I recognize that part of the problem was a lack of due dillegence on our
part, however we are a small firm (30) and I am a one man operation
responsible for maintaining/updating the network as well as all the other
CAD Manager duties (updates, programming, training...). I'm looking for an
app that will be a little more proactive in it's reporting. We are also
looking to bundle our firewall, AV and antispam into one manageable MMC - ie
reduce the time I spend managing them.

So why are you switching from NAV?


"Rick Adelsohn" wrote in message
news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
>
> We are considering a switch from NAV.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> ...Rick
>
>
Message 3 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

We had issues with it a couple of years ago. Had to add several extensions
NOT to scan in the real-time monitor. We ditched it and for Tend Micro's
Office Scan and haven't looked back.

--
remove .ns to email


Rick Adelsohn wrote in message
news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
>
> We are considering a switch from NAV.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> ...Rick
>
>
Message 4 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I think that OfficeScan is a great way to go. It works well and we haven't
had to think about it in a couple of years. Sure I check each day to make
sure it is running properly, but that only takes about 45 seconds and I only
do it because I am too anal for my own good. You might look into Trend
Micro.

Robert

"Zach" wrote in message
news:A463556283246C1FED65A6546DBFA1AA@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We had issues with it a couple of years ago. Had to add several
extensions
> NOT to scan in the real-time monitor. We ditched it and for Tend Micro's
> Office Scan and haven't looked back.
>
> --
> remove .ns to email
>
>
> Rick Adelsohn wrote in message
> news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> > issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
> >
> > We are considering a switch from NAV.
> >
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
> > ...Rick
> >
> >
>
>
Message 5 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Have you checked out www.watchguard.com? They have a SOHO firewall that
integrates firewall and AV. You can also get a feature called weblocker
which can limit the websites accessible from your network. We only have the
SOHO firewall, but I really like it. It works well for up to 25 users.

Robert

"pkirill" wrote in message
news:49A0DBD9D76B5242EDC2F445F0545DBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Funny, we're considering a switch from ETrust v6 to NAV. My biggest
problem
> with Etrust v6 is that there is no way to verify that it's actually
scanning
> anything. Well, that's not really true. There are 'logs' buried in the
> admin screens that are supposed to report info, but I can't say I trust
> them. We recently had an issue where some small viruses were coming
through
> as attachments and were actually caught by Outlook XP's 'enhanced'
security.
> That was our clue that the mail scanner wasn't working. A closer look
> revealed that the mail scanner option - which can only be found by right
> clicking the tray icon on the mail server's task bar - was not checked BUT
> the label next to it claimed it was running. Digging into the logs showed
> that, in fact, the definition updates had stopped updating 3 months
earlier
> (never could figure out why). After a total of about 6 hours (on and off)
> with CA Tech support and about 6 patches later, we resolved the problem (I
> think). As we were downloading patches, I kept thinking that I could
never
> have done this on my own as the updates were not documented very well
> (IMHO). CA seems dedicated to supporting and updating their product, just
> have a hard time communicating it. And the 'help files' are seriously
> lacking.
>
> I recognize that part of the problem was a lack of due dillegence on our
> part, however we are a small firm (30) and I am a one man operation
> responsible for maintaining/updating the network as well as all the other
> CAD Manager duties (updates, programming, training...). I'm looking for
an
> app that will be a little more proactive in it's reporting. We are also
> looking to bundle our firewall, AV and antispam into one manageable MMC -
ie
> reduce the time I spend managing them.
>
> So why are you switching from NAV?
>
>
> "Rick Adelsohn" wrote in message
> news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> > issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
> >
> > We are considering a switch from NAV.
> >
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
> > ...Rick
> >
> >
>
>
Message 6 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I run Trend Micros Antivirus software at home and it's great. It's not in
anyway a resource hog. I believe you can get there by: www.antivirus.com

"Zach" wrote in message
> We ditched it and for Tend Micro's
> Office Scan and haven't looked back.
Message 7 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

We currently have a SonicWall SOHO 50 in place. The issue we are running up
against there is that the reporting tools, again, are lacking. Personally,
I don't really care - but the higher-ups want to be able to know who's doing
what when. The SOHO 50 doesn't really offer that. From my end, it also
offers minimal tools for designing and implementing policies ahead of time.
From what I've seen of the SOHO product line the AV protection is also
'after the fact' - viruses come in, then they are caught. The NAV product
stops them at the gateway. But I do think a closer look at the rest of the
SOHO line is warranted... The full Norton package is coming around
$9-10k...

"Robert Connor" wrote in message
news:8C60A94F770F0D226098E2E7C86BB2C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Have you checked out www.watchguard.com? They have a SOHO firewall that
> integrates firewall and AV. You can also get a feature called weblocker
> which can limit the websites accessible from your network. We only have
the
> SOHO firewall, but I really like it. It works well for up to 25 users.
>
> Robert
>
> "pkirill" wrote in message
> news:49A0DBD9D76B5242EDC2F445F0545DBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Funny, we're considering a switch from ETrust v6 to NAV. My biggest
> problem
> > with Etrust v6 is that there is no way to verify that it's actually
> scanning
> > anything. Well, that's not really true. There are 'logs' buried in the
> > admin screens that are supposed to report info, but I can't say I trust
> > them. We recently had an issue where some small viruses were coming
> through
> > as attachments and were actually caught by Outlook XP's 'enhanced'
> security.
> > That was our clue that the mail scanner wasn't working. A closer look
> > revealed that the mail scanner option - which can only be found by right
> > clicking the tray icon on the mail server's task bar - was not checked
BUT
> > the label next to it claimed it was running. Digging into the logs
showed
> > that, in fact, the definition updates had stopped updating 3 months
> earlier
> > (never could figure out why). After a total of about 6 hours (on and
off)
> > with CA Tech support and about 6 patches later, we resolved the problem
(I
> > think). As we were downloading patches, I kept thinking that I could
> never
> > have done this on my own as the updates were not documented very well
> > (IMHO). CA seems dedicated to supporting and updating their product,
just
> > have a hard time communicating it. And the 'help files' are seriously
> > lacking.
> >
> > I recognize that part of the problem was a lack of due dillegence on our
> > part, however we are a small firm (30) and I am a one man operation
> > responsible for maintaining/updating the network as well as all the
other
> > CAD Manager duties (updates, programming, training...). I'm looking for
> an
> > app that will be a little more proactive in it's reporting. We are also
> > looking to bundle our firewall, AV and antispam into one manageable
MMC -
> ie
> > reduce the time I spend managing them.
> >
> > So why are you switching from NAV?
> >
> >
> > "Rick Adelsohn" wrote in message
> > news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> > > issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
> > >
> > > We are considering a switch from NAV.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > ...Rick
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 8 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I've been running InocuLAN/InoculateIT since 1994 here. It has stopped
ever virus that has tried to get in - via email, disks, or web sites
including malicious java script. It doesn't slow us down (LT, but major
use of xrefs and paperspace and some r12 type 3D work) and has never
caused me problems (except where I didn't follow the instructions and
tried to do something from memory).

I love it, but I have continued to try other products. If you don't keep
up with what is out there then you don't know if you have the best (for
you). The only one that ever came close was Dr Solomon, but McAfee
bought them just so they could get the Mac scanner for themselves (what
I heard through some contacts of mine). NAV has always been too top
heavy IMO. McAfee just plain misses things in my experience. I have a
collection of real viruses to throw around when I'm testing.

Right now we are running v4.53. They are still giving us virus updates
and email support for free on a product that is 4 years old. I have a
trial version 7 in my hands, but I'm testing the Linux client first. So
far it appears they have listened to the suggestions some of us had in
reguards to their v6 Linux client. I know we are going to upgrade, but I
have to make sure the Linux client does what I want or if I have to
stick with ClamAV.

I will say that if you don't take the time to read the documents and the
FAQs on their web site, then you can get yourself in trouble. The
problems with MS Exchange, at least on Exchange versions older than
2000, is the only way MS left an opening for scanning (besides sitting
another server in front). Some other possible server problems are
because of the way MS's processes are just that heavy handed in certain
situations. You can make your entire network slow to a crawl with Etrust
or any other AV solution by simply overscanning. My philosophy is to
protect all entry points (once everything has been cleared with the
parinoid option) with intermediate level scanning 24/7. Email, being the
current infection method du jour, get's everything incoming scanned.
Then, evert night before backups but after everyone is gone, do your
high to parinoid scan on all files. If you have all entry points set to
scan properly (ie scan when you download that file from the web, but why
scan when it is read from the local drive after being scanned already)
then your nightly scans should find nothing.

This software and this method has worked for 9 years for me. I'm the
"computer person" for a company that's ranged from 6 to 50 people over
the past 10 years and that is not my primary job here. I'm a full time
drafter/designer first and then I get to play with the computers, so I
don't have time to waste on software that doesn't work.

"Rick Adelsohn" wrote on 08 Jul 2003:

> Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
>
> We are considering a switch from NAV.

Enjoy,
Stef
--
mailto: yodersj@earthlink.net_remove_
http://www.flatmtn.com/ || CAD / Computers
Hardcore LT users: Doing what they say can't be done.
Message 9 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Looks like the Watchguard is based on McAfee's AV software, which this group
seems to dislike (I too have had issues with it)

Although it may be much less problematic if it is running on a dedicated
box.

...Rick


"Robert Connor" wrote in message
news:8C60A94F770F0D226098E2E7C86BB2C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Have you checked out www.watchguard.com? They have a SOHO firewall that
> integrates firewall and AV. You can also get a feature called weblocker
> which can limit the websites accessible from your network. We only have
the
> SOHO firewall, but I really like it. It works well for up to 25 users.
>
> Robert
>
> "pkirill" wrote in message
> news:49A0DBD9D76B5242EDC2F445F0545DBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Funny, we're considering a switch from ETrust v6 to NAV. My biggest
> problem
> > with Etrust v6 is that there is no way to verify that it's actually
> scanning
> > anything. Well, that's not really true. There are 'logs' buried in the
> > admin screens that are supposed to report info, but I can't say I trust
> > them. We recently had an issue where some small viruses were coming
> through
> > as attachments and were actually caught by Outlook XP's 'enhanced'
> security.
> > That was our clue that the mail scanner wasn't working. A closer look
> > revealed that the mail scanner option - which can only be found by right
> > clicking the tray icon on the mail server's task bar - was not checked
BUT
> > the label next to it claimed it was running. Digging into the logs
showed
> > that, in fact, the definition updates had stopped updating 3 months
> earlier
> > (never could figure out why). After a total of about 6 hours (on and
off)
> > with CA Tech support and about 6 patches later, we resolved the problem
(I
> > think). As we were downloading patches, I kept thinking that I could
> never
> > have done this on my own as the updates were not documented very well
> > (IMHO). CA seems dedicated to supporting and updating their product,
just
> > have a hard time communicating it. And the 'help files' are seriously
> > lacking.
> >
> > I recognize that part of the problem was a lack of due dillegence on our
> > part, however we are a small firm (30) and I am a one man operation
> > responsible for maintaining/updating the network as well as all the
other
> > CAD Manager duties (updates, programming, training...). I'm looking for
> an
> > app that will be a little more proactive in it's reporting. We are also
> > looking to bundle our firewall, AV and antispam into one manageable
MMC -
> ie
> > reduce the time I spend managing them.
> >
> > So why are you switching from NAV?
> >
> >
> > "Rick Adelsohn" wrote in message
> > news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> > > issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
> > >
> > > We are considering a switch from NAV.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > ...Rick
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 10 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Looks like a good solution.

I like the idea of scanning in hardware before anything gets to the server.

How does the content filtering work? Can I block "recreational" sites and
still allow people to access "work" related sites?

...Rick

"pkirill" wrote in message
news:F3868F157C817AE9D8473CEF7CDE4052@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We currently have a SonicWall SOHO 50 in place. The issue we are running
up
> against there is that the reporting tools, again, are lacking.
Personally,
> I don't really care - but the higher-ups want to be able to know who's
doing
> what when. The SOHO 50 doesn't really offer that. From my end, it also
> offers minimal tools for designing and implementing policies ahead of
time.
> From what I've seen of the SOHO product line the AV protection is also
> 'after the fact' - viruses come in, then they are caught. The NAV product
> stops them at the gateway. But I do think a closer look at the rest of
the
> SOHO line is warranted... The full Norton package is coming around
> $9-10k...
>
> "Robert Connor" wrote in message
> news:8C60A94F770F0D226098E2E7C86BB2C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Have you checked out www.watchguard.com? They have a SOHO firewall that
> > integrates firewall and AV. You can also get a feature called weblocker
> > which can limit the websites accessible from your network. We only have
> the
> > SOHO firewall, but I really like it. It works well for up to 25 users.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > "pkirill" wrote in message
> > news:49A0DBD9D76B5242EDC2F445F0545DBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Funny, we're considering a switch from ETrust v6 to NAV. My biggest
> > problem
> > > with Etrust v6 is that there is no way to verify that it's actually
> > scanning
> > > anything. Well, that's not really true. There are 'logs' buried in
the
> > > admin screens that are supposed to report info, but I can't say I
trust
> > > them. We recently had an issue where some small viruses were coming
> > through
> > > as attachments and were actually caught by Outlook XP's 'enhanced'
> > security.
> > > That was our clue that the mail scanner wasn't working. A closer look
> > > revealed that the mail scanner option - which can only be found by
right
> > > clicking the tray icon on the mail server's task bar - was not checked
> BUT
> > > the label next to it claimed it was running. Digging into the logs
> showed
> > > that, in fact, the definition updates had stopped updating 3 months
> > earlier
> > > (never could figure out why). After a total of about 6 hours (on and
> off)
> > > with CA Tech support and about 6 patches later, we resolved the
problem
> (I
> > > think). As we were downloading patches, I kept thinking that I could
> > never
> > > have done this on my own as the updates were not documented very well
> > > (IMHO). CA seems dedicated to supporting and updating their product,
> just
> > > have a hard time communicating it. And the 'help files' are seriously
> > > lacking.
> > >
> > > I recognize that part of the problem was a lack of due dillegence on
our
> > > part, however we are a small firm (30) and I am a one man operation
> > > responsible for maintaining/updating the network as well as all the
> other
> > > CAD Manager duties (updates, programming, training...). I'm looking
for
> > an
> > > app that will be a little more proactive in it's reporting. We are
also
> > > looking to bundle our firewall, AV and antispam into one manageable
> MMC -
> > ie
> > > reduce the time I spend managing them.
> > >
> > > So why are you switching from NAV?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Rick Adelsohn" wrote in message
> > > news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7?
Any
> > > > issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
> > > >
> > > > We are considering a switch from NAV.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > ...Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 11 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

The Symantec Gateway looks great, but it is seriously pricy!

...Rick

"pkirill" wrote in message
news:F3868F157C817AE9D8473CEF7CDE4052@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We currently have a SonicWall SOHO 50 in place. The issue we are running
up
> against there is that the reporting tools, again, are lacking.
Personally,
> I don't really care - but the higher-ups want to be able to know who's
doing
> what when. The SOHO 50 doesn't really offer that. From my end, it also
> offers minimal tools for designing and implementing policies ahead of
time.
> From what I've seen of the SOHO product line the AV protection is also
> 'after the fact' - viruses come in, then they are caught. The NAV product
> stops them at the gateway. But I do think a closer look at the rest of
the
> SOHO line is warranted... The full Norton package is coming around
> $9-10k...
>
> "Robert Connor" wrote in message
> news:8C60A94F770F0D226098E2E7C86BB2C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Have you checked out www.watchguard.com? They have a SOHO firewall that
> > integrates firewall and AV. You can also get a feature called weblocker
> > which can limit the websites accessible from your network. We only have
> the
> > SOHO firewall, but I really like it. It works well for up to 25 users.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > "pkirill" wrote in message
> > news:49A0DBD9D76B5242EDC2F445F0545DBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Funny, we're considering a switch from ETrust v6 to NAV. My biggest
> > problem
> > > with Etrust v6 is that there is no way to verify that it's actually
> > scanning
> > > anything. Well, that's not really true. There are 'logs' buried in
the
> > > admin screens that are supposed to report info, but I can't say I
trust
> > > them. We recently had an issue where some small viruses were coming
> > through
> > > as attachments and were actually caught by Outlook XP's 'enhanced'
> > security.
> > > That was our clue that the mail scanner wasn't working. A closer look
> > > revealed that the mail scanner option - which can only be found by
right
> > > clicking the tray icon on the mail server's task bar - was not checked
> BUT
> > > the label next to it claimed it was running. Digging into the logs
> showed
> > > that, in fact, the definition updates had stopped updating 3 months
> > earlier
> > > (never could figure out why). After a total of about 6 hours (on and
> off)
> > > with CA Tech support and about 6 patches later, we resolved the
problem
> (I
> > > think). As we were downloading patches, I kept thinking that I could
> > never
> > > have done this on my own as the updates were not documented very well
> > > (IMHO). CA seems dedicated to supporting and updating their product,
> just
> > > have a hard time communicating it. And the 'help files' are seriously
> > > lacking.
> > >
> > > I recognize that part of the problem was a lack of due dillegence on
our
> > > part, however we are a small firm (30) and I am a one man operation
> > > responsible for maintaining/updating the network as well as all the
> other
> > > CAD Manager duties (updates, programming, training...). I'm looking
for
> > an
> > > app that will be a little more proactive in it's reporting. We are
also
> > > looking to bundle our firewall, AV and antispam into one manageable
> MMC -
> > ie
> > > reduce the time I spend managing them.
> > >
> > > So why are you switching from NAV?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Rick Adelsohn" wrote in message
> > > news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7?
Any
> > > > issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
> > > >
> > > > We are considering a switch from NAV.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > ...Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 12 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Has anyone setup a linux box as a router with virus scanning?

...Rick


"Rick Adelsohn" wrote in message
news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
>
> We are considering a switch from NAV.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> ...Rick
>
>
Message 13 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

In theory you can block whatever you want. You start with
built-in/downloadable content filter lists. From there you can build
inclusion and exception lists - and that's for both web and mail addresses.
I'm still researching all the possibles and am trying to get our vendor to
set up with a webex demo from symantec. Some of our criteria for a new
system was to be able to control various levels of access by time of day/day
of week and by workstation IP (the upfront policy - the ideal IMHO) and then
be able to log who was on for how how long at what time and how active they
were during that time (the ugly reality). Supposedly the Symantec product
will provide this. But I have yet to actually see how it provides it.



"Rick Adelsohn" wrote in message
news:796FEC89A9C47AA0C313643435FE6B29@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Looks like a good solution.
>
> I like the idea of scanning in hardware before anything gets to the
server.
>
> How does the content filtering work? Can I block "recreational" sites and
> still allow people to access "work" related sites?
>
> ...Rick
>
> "pkirill" wrote in message
> news:F3868F157C817AE9D8473CEF7CDE4052@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > We currently have a SonicWall SOHO 50 in place. The issue we are
running
> up
> > against there is that the reporting tools, again, are lacking.
> Personally,
> > I don't really care - but the higher-ups want to be able to know who's
> doing
> > what when. The SOHO 50 doesn't really offer that. From my end, it also
> > offers minimal tools for designing and implementing policies ahead of
> time.
> > From what I've seen of the SOHO product line the AV protection is also
> > 'after the fact' - viruses come in, then they are caught. The NAV
product
> > stops them at the gateway. But I do think a closer look at the rest of
> the
> > SOHO line is warranted... The full Norton package is coming around
> > $9-10k...
> >
> > "Robert Connor" wrote in message
> > news:8C60A94F770F0D226098E2E7C86BB2C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Have you checked out www.watchguard.com? They have a SOHO firewall
that
> > > integrates firewall and AV. You can also get a feature called
weblocker
> > > which can limit the websites accessible from your network. We only
have
> > the
> > > SOHO firewall, but I really like it. It works well for up to 25
users.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > > "pkirill" wrote in message
> > > news:49A0DBD9D76B5242EDC2F445F0545DBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Funny, we're considering a switch from ETrust v6 to NAV. My biggest
> > > problem
> > > > with Etrust v6 is that there is no way to verify that it's actually
> > > scanning
> > > > anything. Well, that's not really true. There are 'logs' buried in
> the
> > > > admin screens that are supposed to report info, but I can't say I
> trust
> > > > them. We recently had an issue where some small viruses were coming
> > > through
> > > > as attachments and were actually caught by Outlook XP's 'enhanced'
> > > security.
> > > > That was our clue that the mail scanner wasn't working. A closer
look
> > > > revealed that the mail scanner option - which can only be found by
> right
> > > > clicking the tray icon on the mail server's task bar - was not
checked
> > BUT
> > > > the label next to it claimed it was running. Digging into the logs
> > showed
> > > > that, in fact, the definition updates had stopped updating 3 months
> > > earlier
> > > > (never could figure out why). After a total of about 6 hours (on
and
> > off)
> > > > with CA Tech support and about 6 patches later, we resolved the
> problem
> > (I
> > > > think). As we were downloading patches, I kept thinking that I
could
> > > never
> > > > have done this on my own as the updates were not documented very
well
> > > > (IMHO). CA seems dedicated to supporting and updating their product,
> > just
> > > > have a hard time communicating it. And the 'help files' are
seriously
> > > > lacking.
> > > >
> > > > I recognize that part of the problem was a lack of due dillegence on
> our
> > > > part, however we are a small firm (30) and I am a one man operation
> > > > responsible for maintaining/updating the network as well as all the
> > other
> > > > CAD Manager duties (updates, programming, training...). I'm looking
> for
> > > an
> > > > app that will be a little more proactive in it's reporting. We are
> also
> > > > looking to bundle our firewall, AV and antispam into one manageable
> > MMC -
> > > ie
> > > > reduce the time I spend managing them.
> > > >
> > > > So why are you switching from NAV?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Rick Adelsohn" wrote in message
> > > > news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7?
> Any
> > > > > issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
> > > > >
> > > > > We are considering a switch from NAV.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > ...Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 14 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I would second Robert for Trend Micro's Officescan. We have been using it
for last 4 years. We also have Scanmail that works with exchange2000 for
real time scan of emails as they arrive. Officescan protects server and
clients. I have occassional issues with Officescan's HTML interface but
nothing that can't be resolved with help from Trend support. They also offer
junk mail filters but I have not used them.
Sunil
"Robert Connor" wrote in message
news:6F3576F5681EEA267A230E5208386952@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I think that OfficeScan is a great way to go. It works well and we
haven't
> had to think about it in a couple of years. Sure I check each day to make
> sure it is running properly, but that only takes about 45 seconds and I
only
> do it because I am too anal for my own good. You might look into Trend
> Micro.
>
> Robert
>
> "Zach" wrote in message
> news:A463556283246C1FED65A6546DBFA1AA@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > We had issues with it a couple of years ago. Had to add several
> extensions
> > NOT to scan in the real-time monitor. We ditched it and for Tend
Micro's
> > Office Scan and haven't looked back.
> >
> > --
> > remove .ns to email
> >
> >
> > Rick Adelsohn wrote in message
> > news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> > > issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
> > >
> > > We are considering a switch from NAV.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > ...Rick
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 15 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

we use the scanmail also and it works great.

--
remove .ns to email
Sunil Parab wrote in message
news:A00E880E424044CD8CB4D5DBBFB0224F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I would second Robert for Trend Micro's Officescan. We have been using it
> for last 4 years. We also have Scanmail that works with exchange2000 for
> real time scan of emails as they arrive. Officescan protects server and
> clients. I have occassional issues with Officescan's HTML interface but
> nothing that can't be resolved with help from Trend support. They also
offer
> junk mail filters but I have not used them.
> Sunil
> "Robert Connor" wrote in message
> news:6F3576F5681EEA267A230E5208386952@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I think that OfficeScan is a great way to go. It works well and we
> haven't
> > had to think about it in a couple of years. Sure I check each day to
make
> > sure it is running properly, but that only takes about 45 seconds and I
> only
> > do it because I am too anal for my own good. You might look into Trend
> > Micro.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > "Zach" wrote in message
> > news:A463556283246C1FED65A6546DBFA1AA@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > We had issues with it a couple of years ago. Had to add several
> > extensions
> > > NOT to scan in the real-time monitor. We ditched it and for Tend
> Micro's
> > > Office Scan and haven't looked back.
> > >
> > > --
> > > remove .ns to email
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick Adelsohn wrote in message
> > > news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7?
Any
> > > > issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
> > > >
> > > > We are considering a switch from NAV.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > ...Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 16 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Howdy PKirill!

We use eTrust v6 w/ Exchange 2k Mail Plug-in and it works like a charm. I've
cfg'd the blocked extensions list to currently over 100 extensions blocked...
like EXE, PIF, SCR... etc. I don't care... I block them inbound and outbound,
and any such attachment is automatically stripped, deleted and the user gets an
attached text message stating that suchfile.EXE is being blocked. Every since I
started blocking over a year and half ago, we've had no incidents! I even scan
insides of compressed files like ZIP. If you would to see my current listing,
let me know.

I have the realtime scanner running on local desktops, Mail Server and Marketing
Server for inbound only and auto update signatures every 4 hours. File server
has realtime off for file / disk performance, with auto-updates every 4 hours
and runs a complete scan every night at 2am. Mail server and Marketing Servers
also run full scans every night. Only here and there have I had a problem
getting updates. You can right click on the realtime icon in the sys tray on the
desktop and select about to see latest updates.

With CA, I have found that signing up for their A/V e-mail newsletter is great,
especially when they update the drivers, you get prompt notice and a link to
download. Yes the help is somewhat lackluster, however full user guide manuals
for desktop client, server admin and mail client are found on the software cd as
PDF's with full color graphics. In v7 of eTrust, I've seen demo's and the
reporting looks enhanced, whereby e-mail announcements of incidents can be sent
directly to the domain admin.

Ciao!
~Terry


pkirill wrote:

> Funny, we're considering a switch from ETrust v6 to NAV. My biggest problem
> with Etrust v6 is that there is no way to verify that it's actually scanning
> anything. Well, that's not really true. There are 'logs' buried in the
> admin screens that are supposed to report info, but I can't say I trust
> them. We recently had an issue where some small viruses were coming through
> as attachments and were actually caught by Outlook XP's 'enhanced' security.
> That was our clue that the mail scanner wasn't working. A closer look
> revealed that the mail scanner option - which can only be found by right
> clicking the tray icon on the mail server's task bar - was not checked BUT
> the label next to it claimed it was running. Digging into the logs showed
> that, in fact, the definition updates had stopped updating 3 months earlier
> (never could figure out why). After a total of about 6 hours (on and off)
> with CA Tech support and about 6 patches later, we resolved the problem (I
> think). As we were downloading patches, I kept thinking that I could never
> have done this on my own as the updates were not documented very well
> (IMHO). CA seems dedicated to supporting and updating their product, just
> have a hard time communicating it. And the 'help files' are seriously
> lacking.
>
> I recognize that part of the problem was a lack of due dillegence on our
> part, however we are a small firm (30) and I am a one man operation
> responsible for maintaining/updating the network as well as all the other
> CAD Manager duties (updates, programming, training...). I'm looking for an
> app that will be a little more proactive in it's reporting. We are also
> looking to bundle our firewall, AV and antispam into one manageable MMC - ie
> reduce the time I spend managing them.
>
> So why are you switching from NAV?
>
> "Rick Adelsohn" wrote in message
> news:9DB8C5858442867E3BE585AFB1A1E2BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> > issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
> >
> > We are considering a switch from NAV.
> >
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
> > ...Rick
> >
> >
Message 17 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hi Rick!

We been using v6 for over a year and half, and it works great. Especially
the Exchange Mail Plug-in, that I've cfg'd to chuck out attachments
(whether inbound or outbound) with an extension on my listing of over 100!
Every since I started the "chuck list" (aka blocked extensions) over a
year and half ago, I have had no incidents! The only software problem I
ran into was file performance with acad 2k+'s realtime saves onto a Win2k
File Server with realtime scanning... so I disabled the realtime scanning
(ack... but ok!) and voila, performance back to normal. CA has dual
scanner technologies built into eTrust, and really offers IMHO rock solid
scanning, like scanning compressed files, such as ZIPs.

I did speak w/ CA recently at trade show about v7 and found one can limit
extensions for scanning like DWG in the realtime scanner... yet I've just
found that the file server's disk performance is better off with realtime
off. I do run full scans every night for all servers. The Mail Server's
plug-in and client both run realtime full time; all e-mail inbound or
outbound is scanned. Desktops run realtime scanning inbound only. All a/v
clients have auto updates for signatures every four hours.

Ciao!
~Terry


Rick Adelsohn wrote:

> Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
>
> We are considering a switch from NAV.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> ...Rick
Message 18 of 18
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Thanks all for the info!

...Rick

"Terry Drewes" wrote in message
news:3F0CF02B.F6D4B03A@comcast.net...
> Hi Rick!
>
> We been using v6 for over a year and half, and it works great. Especially
> the Exchange Mail Plug-in, that I've cfg'd to chuck out attachments
> (whether inbound or outbound) with an extension on my listing of over 100!
> Every since I started the "chuck list" (aka blocked extensions) over a
> year and half ago, I have had no incidents! The only software problem I
> ran into was file performance with acad 2k+'s realtime saves onto a Win2k
> File Server with realtime scanning... so I disabled the realtime scanning
> (ack... but ok!) and voila, performance back to normal. CA has dual
> scanner technologies built into eTrust, and really offers IMHO rock solid
> scanning, like scanning compressed files, such as ZIPs.
>
> I did speak w/ CA recently at trade show about v7 and found one can limit
> extensions for scanning like DWG in the realtime scanner... yet I've just
> found that the file server's disk performance is better off with realtime
> off. I do run full scans every night for all servers. The Mail Server's
> plug-in and client both run realtime full time; all e-mail inbound or
> outbound is scanned. Desktops run realtime scanning inbound only. All a/v
> clients have auto updates for signatures every four hours.
>
> Ciao!
> ~Terry
>
>
> Rick Adelsohn wrote:
>
> > Is anyone using Etrust (Computer Associates) Antivirus Version 7? Any
> > issues with Autocad/LDT? Does it do the job?
> >
> > We are considering a switch from NAV.
> >
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
> > ...Rick
>

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