Graphic Overrides

[asettino]

I've done several tests with this and I've found that if I do any sort of graphic overrides (hide elements, change color, etc.) and then save a view the overrides will stick. However, when an individual model is updated it loses those overrides even though the same elements are still in the model.

For example:

I have a merged model with architectural, mechanical, and structural. I create a view with the ceilings of the architectural model hidden and save the view. If I update either the mechanical or structural models and go back to the saved view the ceilings will be hidden as they should be. However, if I update the architectural model, even though there has not been any changes to the model and all the ceilings are the same elements as in the orignal architectural model (not new elements) the ceilings will no longer be hidden in the saved view.

In Navis if you link a file and override it later, as long as the elements are the same as what was in the original model, the graphic overrides will stick. 

Am I missing something? Is this issue being worked on?

[anil_mistry]

Hello,

I understand that when you update an individual model you lose graphic overrides ((hide elements, change color, etc.) even though the same elements are still in the model. I am sorry to hear that you are experiencing trouble with the application. We will troubleshoot and if we find same behavior then we will report to our engineering team for you. You can submit a support ticket by clicking on “Contact Autodesk” link from the pull down (see attached) if you need additional assistance.

Please, let me know if this help.

Thank you,

Best regards,

[asettino]

Unfortunately I’ve had a ticket open on this since January and support has had the same result as me.

There is another issue that has been out there since then as well, which I think could be caused by the same problem. When models are appended from Glue into Navisworks and an NWF file is saved, if any of the appended models are updated on Glue when the saved NWF file is opened back up it can no longer find the appended model that was updated. It opens any appended models that have not been updated just fine though. If a model is appended it should stay linked whether updated or not.

[frederick.regala]

Hi Adam,

I do remember the particular issue with the Graphics.  I will do some investigation and I will update you and log a case if necessary.

In regards to the NWF file.  Navisworks will not automatically update the model appended from Glue without using the plug-in from Navisworks.  You will need to use the plug-in in order to see the latest models.

You may contact me to discuss this in more details.

Thank you!

Frederick

[asettino]

Hi Frederick,

Yes, I am using the plugin. This is an issue that's been happening since day one. I just did another test to see if it has been resolved, but the same error comes up (see image below). Here are the steps I took. 

1 - Append models from BIM 360 Glue into Navis

2 - Save Navis file as NWF and close

3 - Update one of the appeneded files in Glue

4 - Open the saved NWF file back up

5 - All files append/open fine except for the one that was updated and can no longer be found.

Thanks.

[justins]

Is there an ETA on when the graphic override issue will get fixed?

[asettino]

Any progress on this? Both the graphic overrides and appending issues still exist.

[anil_mistry]

Hello,

We don’t have release date yet. We will provide you an update as soon as one is available.

Thank you and have a great day!

Best regards,

[sarah_paul]

Is there a resolution to this yet?   I have set up merged models, hidden elements, set colors and then the next time I log into Glue, the views do not hold the colors, hidden elements or transparencies. 

[frederick.regala]

Hi Sarah,

We have an update which is tentatively scheduled for this Friday which will include the solution for this issue.  I will try to post an update once the release takes place.

Frederick

[sarah_paul]

I created views on Monday where I had colors, transparencies and sections boxes set and saved in views. The individual models have since been updated. I went back to the views I saved today and the colors, transparencies and sections boxes I had set are no longer there. When will this be fixed?

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[sarah_paul]

Is there a resolution to this yet?

[Anonymous]

I dont see a resolution to this issue yet...

Anyone from Autodesk - Can you update on a possible update and fix for this?

[Anonymous]

Frederick,

I am still experiencing this very same issue on my project and I am using the latest version of Glue. Do you have any ideas on how I can get this to work? Otherwise, all of the shared views I create inside of Navis have no real purpose inside of Glue since the graphic overrides do not stick.

[keith.white]

I came across this thread yesterday for the first time.  I have experienced similar situations when pushing custom views through Glue to Field and have learned of a workaround that works for me.  It might work for you as well.  The workaround is this:

1) Continue using Navisworks to create custom 3D Viewpoints. Save a local copy as you work in NWF format 

2) When ready to push to Glue (and later to share with Field) save a separate Navisworks NWD file  

3) Open Glue Desktop Application

4) Click on Models tab and then click on upload model button

5) Drag and drop the nwd file into the upload window and upload

6) Once the upload and processing is complete, share with Field.

7) Custom views with transparency and elements hidden are now pushed to Field and honored there.

Updates to the views in Field require the same process of 1 through 7 above with the specific requirements of creating or saving over the previous NWD files.  

Using the BIM360 buttons in the Navisworks (or Revit) ribbon strips this additional information from the model being upload to Glue (an onto Field).

I hope this helps.

Keith

[Anonymous]

Thanks Keith. I really appreciate this tip. I will try that, but wish Glue would work correctly to transfer views from Navisworks without resetting the visibility.

[Anonymous]

This thread is several years old, why has Autodesk not fixed this issue? I am still experiencing this.

As pointed out earlier in this thread, the desktop version of Glue is rendered completely useless without the abilitiy to transfer the viewpoint graphic overrides. 

[rgilbim]

There are other more important issues than fixing Glue.....like addding useless features....

[rgilbim]

Issue is finally fixed....NOT! now my markups retain information but entire models are missing. Oh did i forget to mention it take about 3min to open a markup to open that has been marked up in a previous session. What this not tested ??? Extremely Upset....