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[#1]

i am having a problem with creating a 3d polyline, so i can create a 3d model of my survey. when import my fieldbook is there a setting that i need to change.

[#2]

There are a couple of things to set up
first:

Is your field book correctly coded ("B EB1" to
begin a EB1, etc)?

Is your figure prefix library setup?

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The most
common problem amongst new users is getting the fieldbook just right. Do a
search of this newsgroup and general civil3d. There has been a lot of useful
info meted out.

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Good
luck.

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Regards,

Jon Rasmussen

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<MJONES1924> wrote in message
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i
am having a problem with creating a 3d polyline, so i can create a 3d model of
my survey. when import my fieldbook is there a setting that i need to
change.

[#3]

Jon,

Well i have set up all the point code library, symbol library and some line type libraries to run right with certain prefixes as B EP1, TS1, and etc.. one problem is that my company is wnating to run the field data through Trimbles TGO package for GPS processing for the geoid models and etc. When i use the trimble link for the fbk it fails to draw any lines TGO seems to add alot of actual setup information and this causes my fbk to crash. i have gotten around this problem by exporting it out of TGO as "TDS.dc" file then converting it in survey link to a field book. The main problem is that i can not get it to draw a 3d polyline. And i have spent some time on the decussion forums on here looking for an answer to my question and i am pretty sure i am not looking in the right places or do not know the correct language to use could u kindly send me the link to the site that deals with this directly?

Thanks
mjones

[#4]

In LDD when importing a fieldbook, only 2D lines are drawn. You can create 3D lines by either importing them into the drawing using "Create 3D polylines" from the survey toolspace or "Create Breaklines From Figures" from the Analysis/Figures menu. The latter will add 3D breaklines to a surface which can then be imported back into the drawing for editing.

[#5]

Hi MJones,

Sorry about not replying: I have been inside a
clients office for the week.

Just to clarify: which version of LDD or
C3D?

Are you able to create a csv file and post it to
the customer-files area so that we might see directly what your codes look
like?

Probably should also pst your template file so we
can see your settings. If you are using c3d, you must specify what type of
breakline you want.

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Jon Rasmussen

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<MJONES1924> wrote in message
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Jon,
Well i have set up all the point code library, symbol library and some line
type libraries to run right with certain prefixes as B EP1, TS1, and etc.. one
problem is that my company is wnating to run the field data through Trimbles
TGO package for GPS processing for the geoid models and etc. When i use the
trimble link for the fbk it fails to draw any lines TGO seems to add alot of
actual setup information and this causes my fbk to crash. i have gotten around
this problem by exporting it out of TGO as "TDS.dc" file then converting it in
survey link to a field book. The main problem is that i can not get it to draw
a 3d polyline. And i have spent some time on the decussion forums on here
looking for an answer to my question and i am pretty sure i am not looking in
the right places or do not know the correct language to use could u kindly
send me the link to the site that deals with this directly? Thanks
mjones

[#6]

Jon,

i am currently using LDD 2007, my office in the process of upgrading to Civil 3d here soon. So i am making the best of what i have and hopefully i can just transfer all i have done over to civil 3d. one i do not have a template set up yet i am just running a test file that will later become a template for topography and etc. I am new to the company i am at and they do not have a standardized template in use for Cad work yet. So everyone is just winging it. I have since answered the question i asked on here with the trimble download problem i just completely bypass the trimble fdk and dc file it adds an extra step but it works and gets the results i need to get the job done without hassel.

[#7]

Perserverance is great for results, but plays havoc
with your hairline!!

Well done. Encourage them to upgrade to c3d2009
asap: I used to use LDD for survey and would hate to go back to it.

Regards,

Jon Rasmussen

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<MJONES1924> wrote in message
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Jon,
i am currently using LDD 2007, my office in the process of upgrading to Civil
3d here soon. So i am making the best of what i have and hopefully i can just
transfer all i have done over to civil 3d. one i do not have a template set up
yet i am just running a test file that will later become a template for
topography and etc. I am new to the company i am at and they do not have a
standardized template in use for Cad work yet. So everyone is just winging it.
I have since answered the question i asked on here with the trimble download
problem i just completely bypass the trimble fdk and dc file it adds an extra
step but it works and gets the results i need to get the job done without
hassel.

[#8]

Jon,

Thanks for your advise here is what trimble is downloading from TGO and directly from the data collector. i played with it for hours and could not get any results and tried creating my own format that did not work either. now on curves is it C3 everytime?

UNIT FOOT DMS
HORIZ ANGLE RIGHT
PRISM CONSTANT 0
EDM OFFSET 0
CR OFF
ATMOS OFF
COLLIMATION OFF
JOB TEST

NE SS 10133 83074.636 52585.498 667.567 "B EP"
NE SS 10136 83074.380 52533.257 667.373 "EP"
NE SS 10143 83074.224 52484.312 667.200 "EP"
NE SS 10146 83074.039 52435.875 667.118 "EP"
NE SS 10153 83073.874 52385.641 666.975 "EP"
NE SS 10156 83073.892 52336.691 666.814 "EP"
NE SS 10159 83073.671 52286.497 666.652 "EP"
NE SS 10181 83073.360 52239.091 666.577 "EP"
NE SS 10184 83072.823 52188.510 666.414 "EP"
NE SS 10191 83072.146 52139.248 666.201 "EP"
NE SS 10194 83071.698 52084.008 666.023 "EP"
NE SS 10201 83070.928 52037.153 665.954 "EP"
NE SS 10204 83070.479 51988.088 665.844 "EP"
NE SS 10211 83069.878 51938.616 665.680 "EP"
NE SS 10251 83069.346 51889.463 665.482 "EP"
NE SS 10254 83069.454 51840.941 665.348 "EP"
NE SS 10261 83069.054 51791.172 665.298 "EP"
NE SS 10264 83068.859 51742.740 665.117 "EP"
NE SS 10292 83068.751 51708.238 664.991 "EP"
NE SS 10293 83068.809 51688.204 664.867 "EP"
NE SS 10297 83068.497 51596.695 664.671 "EP"
NE SS 10304 83068.385 51546.905 664.541 "EP"
NE SS 10307 83067.977 51497.564 664.457 "EP"
NE SS 10313 83067.949 51447.939 664.189 "EP"
NE SS 10316 83068.443 51400.040 663.883 "EP"
NE SS 10346 83091.661 51120.869 662.981 "E EP"
NE SS 10323 83069.706 51348.206 663.633 "EP"
NE SS 10326 83072.135 51299.874 663.565 "EP"
NE SS 10333 83075.210 51252.590 663.467 "EP"
NE SS 10336 83080.004 51205.768 663.229 "EP"
NE SS 10343 83085.544 51162.382 663.071 "EP"

[#9]

We could write a new format to import the coords
from the sample you have posted, but you will not get any linework unless you
create a fbk file and import that into LDD/C3D. So if you need linework, you
must be able to create a fbk file that is correctly formatted. Can you post your
FBK file so that we can seen what the problem is?

We supply a free programme called StringerConnect
which converts a lot of formats (including reduced coordinates) to fbk format.
You need to send me a direct email to get that download link.

Regards,

Jon Rasmussen

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<MJONES1924> wrote in message
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Jon,
Thanks for your advise here is what trimble is downloading from TGO and
directly from the data collector. i played with it for hours and could not get
any results and tried creating my own format that did not work either. now on
curves is it C3 everytime? UNIT FOOT DMS HORIZ ANGLE RIGHT PRISM CONSTANT 0
EDM OFFSET 0 CR OFF ATMOS OFF COLLIMATION OFF JOB TEST NE SS 10133 83074.636
52585.498 667.567 "B EP" NE SS 10136 83074.380 52533.257 667.373 "EP" NE SS
10143 83074.224 52484.312 667.200 "EP" NE SS 10146 83074.039 52435.875 667.118
"EP" NE SS 10153 83073.874 52385.641 666.975 "EP" NE SS 10156 83073.892
52336.691 666.814 "EP" NE SS 10159 83073.671 52286.497 666.652 "EP" NE SS
10181 83073.360 52239.091 666.577 "EP" NE SS 10184 83072.823 52188.510 666.414
"EP" NE SS 10191 83072.146 52139.248 666.201 "EP" NE SS 10194 83071.698
52084.008 666.023 "EP" NE SS 10201 83070.928 52037.153 665.954 "EP" NE SS
10204 83070.479 51988.088 665.844 "EP" NE SS 10211 83069.878 51938.616 665.680
"EP" NE SS 10251 83069.346 51889.463 665.482 "EP" NE SS 10254 83069.454
51840.941 665.348 "EP" NE SS 10261 83069.054 51791.172 665.298 "EP" NE SS
10264 83068.859 51742.740 665.117 "EP" NE SS 10292 83068.751 51708.238 664.991
"EP" NE SS 10293 83068.809 51688.204 664.867 "EP" NE SS 10297 83068.497
51596.695 664.671 "EP" NE SS 10304 83068.385 51546.905 664.541 "EP" NE SS
10307 83067.977 51497.564 664.457 "EP" NE SS 10313 83067.949 51447.939 664.189
"EP" NE SS 10316 83068.443 51400.040 663.883 "EP" NE SS 10346 83091.661
51120.869 662.981 "E EP" NE SS 10323 83069.706 51348.206 663.633 "EP" NE SS
10326 83072.135 51299.874 663.565 "EP" NE SS 10333 83075.210 51252.590 663.467
"EP" NE SS 10336 83080.004 51205.768 663.229 "EP" NE SS 10343 83085.544
51162.382 663.071 "EP"

[#10]

Hi MJONES1924,

For Autodesk:
The incompetents who modified the newsgroups a few weeks ago have
thoroughly destroyed your formatting making this very hard to read. If
they don't fix it in their close down next weekend (and since they
haven't acknowledged any where that I've seen that they even know they
have a problem I don't feel confident they will fix it), for future
posting from a newsreader enclose the content in braces like this.

Put our information here


I believe from the Web browser interface there is an option to use Rich
text format, but I never waste my time with a browser to read newsgroups
so haven't seen it.

For you:

NE SS 10133 83074.636 52585.498 667.567 "B EP"


Although you should code your point in the field with B EP to begin a
figure with the name EP the translator which reads the raw data from the
data recorder and converts it to a fieldbook should create two lines
like this:

BEG EP
NE SS 10133 83074.636 52585.498 667.567 EP


Arrrrggggghhhhh - I thought I had better reformat your data so it could
read. This is how I expect it was when you posted it


UNIT FOOT DMS HORIZ ANGLE RIGHT
PRISM CONSTANT 0
EDM OFFSET 0
CR OFF
ATMOS OFF
COLLIMATION OFF
JOB TEST
NE SS 10133 83074.636 52585.498 667.567 "B EP"
NE SS 10136 83074.380 52533.257 667.373 "EP"
NE SS 10143 83074.224 52484.312 667.200 "EP"
NE SS 10146 83074.039 52435.875 667.118 "EP"

NE SS 10316 83068.443 51400.040 663.883 "EP"
NE SS 10346 83091.661 51120.869 662.981 "E EP"
NE SS 10323 83069.706 51348.206 663.633 "EP"
NE SS 10326 83072.135 51299.874 663.565 "EP"
NE SS 10333 83075.210 51252.590 663.467 "EP"
NE SS 10336 83080.004 51205.768 663.229 "EP"
NE SS 10343 83085.544 51162.382 663.071 "EP"


And as it should be to work as a fieldbook

UNIT FOOT DMS HORIZ ANGLE RIGHT
PRISM CONSTANT 0
EDM OFFSET 0
CR OFF
ATMOS OFF
COLLIMATION OFF
JOB TEST
BEG EP
NE SS 10133 83074.636 52585.498 667.567 "EP"
NE SS 10136 83074.380 52533.257 667.373 "EP"
NE SS 10143 83074.224 52484.312 667.200 "EP"
NE SS 10146 83074.039 52435.875 667.118 "EP"

NE SS 10316 83068.443 51400.040 663.883 "EP"
NE SS 10346 83091.661 51120.869 662.981 "EP"
END
NE SS 10323 83069.706 51348.206 663.633 "EP"
NE SS 10326 83072.135 51299.874 663.565 "EP"
NE SS 10333 83075.210 51252.590 663.467 "EP"
NE SS 10336 83080.004 51205.768 663.229 "EP"
NE SS 10343 83085.544 51162.382 663.071 "EP"


As I noted above for the B EP, the E EP code which you enter in the
field has to be converted by the software to a proper fieldbook format
with the two lines.

NE SS 10346 83091.661 51120.869 662.981 "EP"
END


Lastly the quote marks around the descriptions are ignored by the
fieldbook import process, so you can either leave them there or remove them.

Regards


Laurie Comerford

MJONES1924 wrote:
> Jon, Thanks for your advise here is what trimble is downloading from TGO
> and directly from the data collector. i played with it for hours and
> could not get any results and tried creating my own format that did not
> work either. now on curves is it C3 everytime? UNIT FOOT DMS HORIZ ANGLE
> RIGHT PRISM CONSTANT 0 EDM OFFSET 0 CR OFF ATMOS OFF COLLIMATION OFF JOB
> TEST NE SS 10133 83074.636 52585.498 667.567 "B EP" NE SS 10136
> 83074.380 52533.257 667.373 "EP" NE SS 10143 83074.224 52484.312 667.200
> "EP" NE SS 10146 83074.039 52435.875 667.118 "EP" NE SS 10153 83073.874
> 52385.641 666.975 "EP" NE SS 10156 83073.892 52336.691 666.814 "EP" NE
> SS 10159 83073.671 52286.497 666.652 "EP" NE SS 10181 83073.360
> 52239.091 666.577 "EP" NE SS 10184 83072.823 52188.510 666.414 "EP" NE
> SS 10191 83072.146 52139.248 666.201 "EP" NE SS 10194 83071.698
> 52084.008 666.023 "EP" NE SS 10201 83070.928 52037.153 665.954 "EP" NE
> SS 10204 83070.479 51988.088 665.844 "EP" NE SS 10211 83069.878
> 51938.616 665.680 "EP" NE SS 10251 83069.346 51889.463 665.482 "EP" NE
> SS 10254 83069.454 51840.941 665.348 "EP" NE SS 10261 83069.054
> 51791.172 665.298 "EP" NE SS 10264 83068.859 51742.740 665.117 "EP" NE
> SS 10292 83068.751 51708.238 664.991 "EP" NE SS 10293 83068.809
> 51688.204 664.867 "EP" NE SS 10297 83068.497 51596.695 664.671 "EP" NE
> SS 10304 83068.385 51546.905 664.541 "EP" NE SS 10307 83067.977
> 51497.564 664.457 "EP" NE SS 10313 83067.949 51447.939 664.189 "EP" NE
> SS 10316 83068.443 51400.040 663.883 "EP" NE SS 10346 83091.661
> 51120.869 662.981 "E EP" NE SS 10323 83069.706 51348.206 663.633 "EP" NE
> SS 10326 83072.135 51299.874 663.565 "EP" NE SS 10333 83075.210
> 51252.590 663.467 "EP" NE SS 10336 83080.004 51205.768 663.229 "EP" NE
> SS 10343 83085.544 51162.382 663.071 "EP"