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    Registered: ‎03-20-2009

    Linework into LDD

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    03-20-2009 09:03 PM
    I have read over many of the posts in this discussion board and have not found anything that might help me out, so here goes my question:

    I am using a TDS Recon for my total stations and a TSC2 Trimble data collector for my RTK units. I have been able to correctly use the feature codes in the field (eg B FL), and when brought into Trimble Geo. Office I have line work. However once I export to an FBK file and import into LDD all the line work is gone and only the points remain. All of the FC-ing is also still attached to the point descriptions once in LDD.

    Have I missed at setting in LDD? Is there something in the data collectors? Any help/info would be great!

    Thanks, Sean

    Also: I have found a work around by exporting a point file and a DXF file out of TGO and combining them in LDD, however my main engineering group is requesting the FBK file....thus my problem.
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    *Laurie

    Re: Linework into LDD

    03-21-2009 01:09 AM in reply to: SLColorado
    Hi SLColorado,


    If you post the raw file from your data collector and the fieldbook file
    you have created from it, that will provide someone with a chance of
    resolving your problem.

    Regards,


    Laurie Comerford


    SLColorado wrote:
    > I have read over many of the posts in this discussion board and have not
    > found anything that might help me out, so here goes my question: I am
    > using a TDS Recon for my total stations and a TSC2 Trimble data
    > collector for my RTK units. I have been able to correctly use the
    > feature codes in the field (eg B FL), and when brought into Trimble Geo.
    > Office I have line work. However once I export to an FBK file and import
    > into LDD all the line work is gone and only the points remain. All of
    > the FC-ing is also still attached to the point descriptions once in LDD.
    > Have I missed at setting in LDD? Is there something in the data
    > collectors? Any help/info would be great! Thanks, Sean Also: I have
    > found a work around by exporting a point file and a DXF file out of TGO
    > and combining them in LDD, however my main engineering group is
    > requesting the FBK file....thus my problem.
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    *Christof Lambrecht

    Re: Linework into LDD

    03-21-2009 12:07 PM in reply to: SLColorado

    Sean,

    Linework in TGO & LDD/C3d are 2 different
    things I think,

    control commands may be different for
    both.

    Are you using TrimbleLink to build your
    FBK?

     

    I'm working with TSCe, with Totalstation &
    RTK.

    Do You have Linework on your TSC2
    face=Arial size=2>?

    Is there a reason not using your TSC2 with your
    Totalstation??

     

    chr.


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    I
    have read over many of the posts in this discussion board and have not found
    anything that might help me out, so here goes my question: I am using a TDS
    Recon for my total stations and a TSC2 Trimble data collector for my RTK
    units. I have been able to correctly use the feature codes in the field (eg B
    FL), and when brought into Trimble Geo. Office I have line work. However once
    I export to an FBK file and import into LDD all the line work is gone and only
    the points remain. All of the FC-ing is also still attached to the point
    descriptions once in LDD. Have I missed at setting in LDD? Is there something
    in the data collectors? Any help/info would be great! Thanks, Sean Also: I
    have found a work around by exporting a point file and a DXF file out of TGO
    and combining them in LDD, however my main engineering group is requesting the
    FBK file....thus my problem.
    Please use plain text.
    Active Member
    Posts: 6
    Registered: ‎03-20-2009

    Re: Linework into LDD

    03-22-2009 07:45 AM in reply to: SLColorado
    Christof,

    Yes you are right I found the control commands from TGO are not the same as LDD, unfortunate as the TGO seems much more user friendly and powerful.

    I also found that I was converting my files incorrectly in LDD with the Survey Link converter. If I export a simple text file out of TGO and convert it in LDD to an FBK (correctly) I get the line work. However, seems the curves are not nearly as easy to build if you are tied down by LDD. Again unfortunate. I do not have the line work on the TSC2 but I have not had time to upload the feature code library file yet. Hoping to do that shortly.

    Have you had any success with bringing in field codes of MCS/MCE (multi-curve start/end) into LDD fbk files?

    I don't think I am using the TrimbleLink, I found a few times that being mentioned in literature I read but not entirely sure what it is/does. Do you know of any good online sites for info on that?

    As to your last question on why I'm not using all TSC2's....I have more Recons than TSC2's unfortunately as the TSC2's are great to work with.

    Sean Edited by: SLColorado on Mar 22, 2009 2:45 PM
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    *Christof Lambrecht

    Re: Linework into LDD

    03-22-2009 01:39 PM in reply to: SLColorado

    Sean,

    We use GeOpus, local surveyprogram from
    Belgium, so I have no experience with LDD.  We have been looking for
    moving to C3d but we found the survey module not strong enough to justifiy a
    switch, for the moment it would be a
     step
    backwards.  I'm following the Civil3d newsgroup, there are frequent posts
    on F2F.  There was recently a discussion on the MCS/MCE topic ...

     

    cut & pasted it here from "Trimble Line work
    problem" on 7 march 2008

    There is another code MCS and MCE for a multi-point curve. This allows you
    to pick up more than 3 points on a curve. For this you enter MCS EP  (for
    the PC then you can pick up more shots along the curve and when you get to the
    PT of the curve enter MCE EP.  With this command you do not have to finish
    the curve before collecting another feature.

     

    I suppose for linework on the TSC2 that the TGO
    controlcodes must be used, and not the C3D/LDD codes.  We do not use
    linework on ours because of different controlcodes, but for most jobs (topo -
    roads) this is not a problem.  For reasons of speed we have no
    Featurre Library on the dc, tried that on version 10.xx but we found it was
    slowing down the input of the Feature codes.

     

    Trimblelink is Trimble data transfer inside
    C3d/LDD, you select your job file and the output is an imported FBK in C3d/LDD
    ... but not all C3d/LDD commands ae supported by Trimble ...

     

    search for Trimblehandout (7MB) it is a step by
    step tutorial from
    href="http://www.civil3d.com/">http://www.civil3d.com/

     

    Chr.

     


     

     


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    Christof,
    Yes you are right I found the control commands from TGO are not the same as
    LDD, unfortunate as the TGO seems much more user friendly and powerful. I also
    found that I was converting my files incorrectly in LDD with the Survey Link
    converter. If I export a simple text file out of TGO and convert it in LDD to
    an FBK (correctly) I get the line work. However, seems the curves are not
    nearly as easy to build if you are tied down by LDD. Again unfortunate. I do
    not have the line work on the TSC2 but I have not had time to upload the
    feature code library file yet. Hoping to do that shortly. Have you had any
    success with bringing in field codes of MCS/MCE (multi-curve start/end) into
    LDD fbk files? I don't think I am using the TrimbleLink, I found a few times
    that being mentioned in literature I read but not entirely sure what it
    is/does. Do you know of any good online sites for info on that? As to your
    last question on why I'm not using all TSC2's....I have more Recons than
    TSC2's unfortunately as the TSC2's are great to work with. Sean Edited by:
    SLColorado on Mar 22, 2009 2:45 PM
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    Posts: 6
    Registered: ‎03-20-2009

    Re: Linework into LDD

    03-23-2009 02:31 PM in reply to: SLColorado
    Christof,

    Thanks for all the info. Now my quest is to get these MCS/MCE codes to work. I can hardly argue with you in not wanting to switch to Civil 3D, there is so much in that program that is of little use to surveyors. Best of luck to you and thanks again.


    Sean
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