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    rmathan
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    Registered: ‎02-17-2011

    Why tria/tetra element types ONLY used in moldflow analysis?

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    04-07-2011 01:11 AM

    Hello,

     

    I have a basic moldflow analysis query.

     

    While performing moldflow analysis we use triangular / tetrahedral type mesh for analysis. Why these element types only used and why don't we use other element types?

     

    Regards,

    Mathankumar.R

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    madhukeshwart
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    Registered: ‎03-18-2009

    Re: Why tria/tetra element types ONLY used in moldflow analysis?

    04-10-2011 09:33 PM in reply to: rmathan

    solver algorithems are  developed for these type of mesh to do calucalations in moldflow

     

    so we need to use these types only.

    Madhukeshwar Talwar
    Fiat-Chrysler
    Cell No: +91-9600060862
    mail: madhukeshwart@gmail.com
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    rmathan
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    Re: Why tria/tetra element types ONLY used in moldflow analysis?

    04-10-2011 10:23 PM in reply to: madhukeshwart

    Madhu,

     

    Thanks for your reply.

     

    Do you know the basic behind why the solver Algorithams have been developed for these tria/tetra mesh types?.

     

     

    Regards,

    Mathankumar.R

     

     

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    lahkar
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    Registered: ‎10-24-2010

    Re: Why tria/tetra element types ONLY used in moldflow analysis?

    04-15-2011 10:20 PM in reply to: rmathan

    Because tria and tetra only can give most diminished close loop than other elements (!)

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    rmathan
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    Re: Why tria/tetra element types ONLY used in moldflow analysis?

    04-18-2011 10:59 PM in reply to: lahkar

    Thanks for your reply.

     

    Do you know the mathematical calculations or theory behind the tria/tetra mesh used in moldflow analysis?

     

     

    Regards,

    Mathankumar.R

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    Employee
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    Registered: ‎08-23-2009

    Re: Why tria/tetra element types ONLY used in moldflow analysis?

    05-01-2011 07:08 PM in reply to: rmathan

    Hi,

     

    Are you really sure you want to know the Theory behind? There are excellent books on the subject.

    As an example, "The Finite Element Method" by Zienkiewicz and Taylor.

     

    Personally, I will say that when it comes to meshing, the best type of element to cover all shapes are tetrahedron in 3D. In addition, they are less inclined to locking phenomena compared to wedges and hexahedron and you can always extract tetrahedron from wedges and hexahedron and not the other way around. 

     

    Cheers,

     

    WARNING: The above comments are based on personal opinion and should be considered as such with no garantee attached.

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    Re: Why tria/tetra element types ONLY used in moldflow analysis?

    01-10-2013 08:32 AM in reply to: rmathan

    are you asking because u have seen sigmasoft and Moldex are using Hexa mesh?

     

    there are very nice books avaible to read the maths behind flow analysis and why moldflow used tetra as 3D mesh

     

     

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    madhukeshwart
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    Re: Why tria/tetra element types ONLY used in moldflow analysis?

    01-11-2013 11:22 AM in reply to: rmathan
    sadasive,


    can you please name those book/ authour name???
    Madhukeshwar Talwar
    Fiat-Chrysler
    Cell No: +91-9600060862
    mail: madhukeshwart@gmail.com
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    Re: Why tria/tetra element types ONLY used in moldflow analysis?

    01-14-2013 02:23 AM in reply to: madhukeshwart
    Flow analysis of injection molds:Peter Kennedy
     
    Injection Molding: Integration of Theory and Modeling Methods By Rong Zheng
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    rmathan
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    Registered: ‎02-17-2011

    Re: Why tria/tetra element types ONLY used in moldflow analysis?

    01-28-2013 01:44 AM in reply to: sdpimple

    Thanks!

     

    Regards,

    Mathankumar. R

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