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    benalain
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    Registered: ‎09-21-2010

    adding bc to prescribed displacement

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    10-15-2010 12:25 AM

    Hi

     

     

    I would just like to know how is it possible to add a bc to a node where there is still a prescribed displacement (of course in another dof).

    Each time i try, i have the error message saying : prescribed displacement non active

     

     

    Thanks!

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    Employee
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    Registered: ‎05-06-2010

    Re: adding bc to prescribed displacement

    10-15-2010 05:06 AM in reply to: benalain

    BC and PD are allowed to be applied on different DOFs of a node.

     

    I bet your model needs double-check.

     

    If your model is complicated, you can create a simple one ( maybe just one element) to see if there is still the same problem.

     

    Of course, you are also welcome to share your model here. 

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    Re: adding bc to prescribed displacement

    10-15-2010 05:40 AM in reply to: benalain

    I remember also having this problem. As far as I know, though, you can simply att the other BC as a prescribed displacement by use of a "custom" vector though. For example, if you set a prescribed displacement along the X-vector, I think the node is still free to move in the Y-and Z-directions. However, if you make a prescribed displacement with a vector of (X,Y,Z) = (1,0,0), the node will be constrained also in Y and Z.

     

    I'm unsure how this works with rotations at the same node. Does anyone know if you can apply both a rotational and translational prescribed displacement at the same node simultaneously? I don't see why it shouldn't work...

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    Employee
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    Re: adding bc to prescribed displacement

    10-15-2010 05:49 AM in reply to: bjorn_fallqvist

    I attached a MES model here.

    Both BC and PD have been applied on nodes along the top surface.

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    Employee
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    Re: adding bc to prescribed displacement

    10-15-2010 05:51 AM in reply to: benalain

    yes, as Bjorn explained, try using Custom vector!

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    benalain
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    Re: adding bc to prescribed displacement

    10-15-2010 06:04 AM in reply to: benalain

    OK, i will try and let you know.

    And i also remember that sometimes, it is better to input a custom vector than the X Y or Z one. But it shouln't be the case.

     

    ALAIN

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    benalain
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    Re: adding bc to prescribed displacement

    10-15-2010 06:18 AM in reply to: benalain

    Here is a model where i add a displacement in the Z direction (defined by a customer vector) and constraints also the X and Y direction.
    And there is the error message

     

    The file is here : http://www.yousendit.com/download/ZGJlU2Vxa0REbUpFQlE9PQ

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    Employee
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    Re: adding bc to prescribed displacement

    10-15-2010 06:28 AM in reply to: benalain

    The BC is to constrain Tx and Ty, and the PD is (0,0,1), so there are incompatible on X and Y direction.

     

    the PD should be applied on only Z direction, instead of "Vector".

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    benalain
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    Re: adding bc to prescribed displacement

    10-15-2010 06:45 AM in reply to: S.LI

    OK i see i can not define the vector but only clic on scalar X, Y or Z

     

    If i input the vector as custom, it is not accepted.

    So what is the solution if the displacement direction is not in those global directions.

    Thanks

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    Employee
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    Re: adding bc to prescribed displacement

    10-15-2010 06:51 AM in reply to: benalain

     

    Since you constrain, for example, X direction, your loads/PD on the same direction will make no sense.

     

    For example, if X is constrain, and you want to apply PDs along both Y and Z. Then you have to apply them separately.

    In another word, there should be two PDs in the model, one for Y and another for Z.

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