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    STEEL DESIGN - INSTABLE SECTION - SLENDERNESS - Beam design under ULS

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    06-18-2012 02:47 AM

    Hello,

     

    I have generated 3D frame using RSA 2013 professional. When i verify the rafter beams under ultimate limit state, the results shown are instable. And when optimized under ULTIMATE it provides very large dimension beams. whereas when i used SERVICEABILITY METHOD, it is fine. 

     

    Please help me, how to verify beams in 3D generator. 

     

    Please find attached 3D design file

     

    Kind regards,

     

    Ajmal

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    Re: 3D Frame Generator- Beam design under ULS

    06-18-2012 02:49 AM in reply to: zameerajmal

    I ain't able to attach rsa file, please help me

     

    find result snaps for reference

     

    why can't i design beam under ULS 

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    Re: 3D Frame Generator- Beam design under ULS

    06-18-2012 03:06 AM in reply to: zameerajmal

    ULS and SLS check are two different verifications,. As far as I can see the problem you have got is the exceeded slenderness limit. Looking at the buckling Z part you can see that unrestrained buckling length for 140 section is over 14m which way  too long weak the axes if this section. Have you set the buckling parameters correctly?



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    Re: STEEL DESIGN - INSTABLE SECTION - SLENDERNESS - Beam design under ULS

    06-18-2012 03:14 AM in reply to: zameerajmal

    I haven't set the paramters. I am a learner, student. how to set, will you please help me

     

    Thanks

    Ajmal

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    Re: 3D Frame Generator- Beam design under ULS

    06-18-2012 03:16 AM in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

    The beam length is 7.11 m

     

    bay width is 14 m

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    Re: 3D Frame Generator- Beam design under ULS

    06-18-2012 03:20 AM in reply to: zameerajmal

    Assuming it is a 2 span beam then either you set buckling Z (and LTB) coefficients as 0.5L or you should define an intermediate restrain at this point and then set these coefficients as 1.0L  for each of the spans.

     

    If you find your post answered press the Accept as Solution button please. This will help other users to find solutions much faster. Thank you.

     

     



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