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    AJA14
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    Matrix is not positive definined

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    08-06-2012 11:03 PM

    Hi. I am trying to design a shoring system consisting of diaphragm walls with counterfort walls as stiffeners for a case at hand. I get instability problems and if i don't press escape I receive a dialog saying that the matrix is not positive definitive - critical load may have been exceeded. Could that be due to the location and direction of elastic supports. Or is it because I should be using a different solver. Any ideas or advice. Shoring System.png

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    Artur.Kosakowski
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    Registered: ‎12-17-2010

    Re: Matrix is not positive definitive

    08-06-2012 11:56 PM in reply to: AJA14

    This warning suggests that the load level is excessive (structure becomes unstable under applied load).



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    aruser
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    Registered: ‎08-12-2011

    Re: Matrix is not positive definitive

    01-22-2013 01:20 AM in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

    Hi,

    When getting this message I used to check the full note of Analysis->Calcultion report->full note and make sure that all the load cases are convergent. By doing this, despite the matrix message, could we assume that the calculations, forces, displacements etc are correct? Iguess so. Please confirm.

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    Artur.Kosakowski
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    Re: Matrix is not positive definitive

    01-22-2013 01:23 AM in reply to: aruser

    No, as the analysis may converge for the different state of equilibrium of the structure. You need to determine where you are with the current load level first.



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    aruser
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    Re: Matrix is not positive definitive

    01-22-2013 01:34 AM in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

    Sorry, could you explain yourself a little bit more. How can we do this you are explaining?

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    Artur.Kosakowski
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    Re: Matrix is not positive definitive

    01-22-2013 02:03 AM in reply to: aruser

    Try to run linear and  non-linear buckling analysis (with no P-Delta) for the case or combination which reports this issue and check the value the critical coefficient. Try to reduce the load and check if the original load converges with no warnings displayed and then investigate the deformation of the model and compare it with the one you have for the original load.



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