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    tony.ridley
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    Damping for seismic and spectral cases.

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    09-24-2012 06:12 PM

    Hi guys,

     

    • If I include damping in modal case that precedes the Spectral case, do I need to add a value for damping in the spectral definition?   If I include damping in the spectral definition and also check on damping in modal, does Robot "double up" on damping?

     

    • In the AS1170 seismic, there is no damping definition.  Do I need to check it on in Modal definition for it to be included?

    Tony

     

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    Re: Damping for seismic and spectral cases.

    09-25-2012 07:30 AM in reply to: tony.ridley

    Hi Tony,

    some summary on using damping in  modal, spectral and seismic cases.

     

    Damping defined in advanced parameters of modal case

    damping in modal.png is used in:

    1/ damping correction of elastic spectra in these seismic codes where it is possible - for instance in EN-1998-1-1 (Eurocode 8)

    2/ in calculation of complete quadratic combinations (CQC) and double sum method (2SM) combinations - see appropriate Help topic

     

    Damping defined in spectral analysis is not used directly in spectral analysis calculations- it can be treated as some identifier of various spectra here. It is used  when preparing spectra in case of spectra interpolation:interpolating spectra.png

     

     

    Above settings correspond to different actions so there is no risk to consider damping "twice".

     

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    tony.ridley
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    Re: Damping for seismic and spectral cases.

    09-25-2012 05:41 PM in reply to: pp2008

    Hi Pawel thanks for your reply.  What about this damping setting:

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    Re: Damping for seismic and spectral cases.

    09-26-2012 12:15 AM in reply to: tony.ridley

    This damping setting would be used only when using this spectra in Spectra Interpolation:

    damping in spectral.png

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    tony.ridley
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    Re: Damping for seismic and spectral cases.

    09-26-2012 06:43 PM in reply to: pp2008

    Thanks for your reply Pawel,

     

    Perhaps the dialogue box should be removed from it's current position, it's a bit misleading. 

     

    Thanks anyway,

    Tony

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    Re: Damping for seismic and spectral cases.

    10-01-2012 02:58 AM in reply to: tony.ridley

    Hi Tony,

    sorry for incomplete/incorrect answer in my previous post:

    damping from properties of spectra is used in spectra averaging not only in spectra definion but also when using averaged spectra directly in spectral load case - see the screen capture below:

    spectra averaging.png

     

    In such case the actual relative damping used to calculate averaged spectra will be taken from advanced parameters of modal case preceding this spectral case.

     

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