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    rcadzior
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    Copying items in RC navigator

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    01-20-2012 03:00 PM

    Dear Sirs;

     

    Could you tell me how can I copy defined (item is listed in a navigator) foundation item from one node to others?

    Controls with node numbers are block in navigator - why cannot we add node numbers in a simply way instaed of define new item from begining ?

    After clicking on any item (right mouse button menu) we can see  "Move selection from/on structure" - how do these options work because I didn't notice any results, there is also no help in a program documentation ?

    We have also simple "Edit/Copy, Paste" options - but result is a copy of selected item with empty property cells.

    Maybe I do something wrong - please explain how should I do that in a proper way , because I see no sense in that all.

     

    Thanks in advance for any help !

     

    BR.

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    Re: Copying items in RC navigator

    01-22-2012 11:44 PM in reply to: rcadzior

    If you want to copy reinforcement between elements - you can do it by saving opening rxd file for typical elements.

    Otherwise I suggest to use grouping of elements while importing to RC module.

     

    kop.jpg



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    Re: Copying items in RC navigator

    01-23-2012 04:17 PM in reply to: RG_Adsk

    Dear Rafał;

     

    Thanks for your hints - it is a partial solution of course.

     

    Let me explain more precisely - I don't want to copy reinforcement which is a result of design and can be easily calculated in seconds.
    I wanted to copy a "type of foundation" with its full definition like geometry, soil conditions etc. from one node to the others like a template - not to fill all data from the beginning.

    What do you mean by "grouping" objects in Robot?
    I selected several nodes (..is it "grouping" meant by you ?) and tranfered them into RC-foundation module, they are shown in a list and its contents cannot be changed manually.

    Don't you think it would be better for us to have a possibility to change a list of nodes?
    Is there any way to edit it in a present version of Robot  (maybe we don't know about some options which can be unlocked) ?

    If not - please find it as a polite request to your programmers :smileywink:

    BTW.  When we select exactly two nodes - program asks if we want to define footing under two columns (it was described in the manual). If a number of selected nodes is greater - there is no question displayed

     

    BR

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    Re: Copying items in RC navigator

    01-25-2012 02:47 AM in reply to: rcadzior


    Let me explain more precisely - I don't want to copy reinforcement which is a result of design and can be easily calculated in seconds.
    I wanted to copy a "type of foundation" with its full definition like geometry, soil conditions etc. from one node to the others like a template - not to fill all data from the beginning.

     

    Geometry and some bars settings can be transfered by rxd file :

     

    kop.jpg

     

     

    Calculation options:

     

    calcopt.jpg

     

    Reinf pattern:

     

    reinfpat.jpg

     

    Soil : 

     

    soillay.jpg

     


    What do you mean by "grouping" objects in Robot?

     

    grouping.jpg

     And design will be performed as for one foundation for envelope of forces from selected (grouped) nodes.



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    Re: Copying items in RC navigator

    01-26-2012 04:08 PM in reply to: RG_Adsk

    OK - I tested "grouping"

     

    My remarks:

    - "According to geometry" works if columns cross-sections are the same - in order to get what I wanted I had to cheat Robot and changed cross-sections for all columns to one common. After Robot had created one foundation for those nodes I changed cross-sections to "original".

    -"According to story" groups elements because of elevation of node/column/beam etc.

     

    Both options are useful but the most necessary is "user defined" grouping

     

    Dear programmers - allow us to define types of foundations for "user defined" set of nodes !

    It will be a simple option that will bring more benefit than those built-in "smart" options - which do not work as if I wished (hope others too .... judging from the read posts eg. steel connections).

    Please do not treat my words as a criticism - in our common bussiness is to improve this programme (that's why this forum exists I think...) and the most valuable are the remarks of engineers with any design practise. 

     

     

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