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    Ibrim1
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    Consequence of axis position offset-excentrement

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    12-19-2011 09:59 AM

    Resultas de calculs en excentrement

    Bonjour,

    J'ai comparé les sollicitations que j'obtiens avec des excentrement differents et j'ai remarqué la difference illustrée sur la figure ci dessus.

    Mes questions sont les suivantes:

    1. Pourquoi à l'appui de type rotule, il existe un moment dans le cas d'un excentrement (habituellement l'appui de type rotule ne donne pas lieu à des momenst d'encastrement)

    2. Pourquoi dans le cas d'un appui encatrement avec les noeuds de la barre relachés (liaison habituellement identique à une rotule), les resultatts sont les memes que pour la première figure? Ce resultats que je considère comme assez raisonable.

    3. Un calcul effectué avec le cas 2 (appui rotule et excentrement) reflète t il la réalité? Les résultats ne sont ils pas moins favorables à la securité de l'ouvrage vu que les moments en travée sont considérablement reduits (de l'ordre de 50%) alors que c'est un cas de travée isostatique?

    Je vous remercie de m'eclairer aussi vite que possible car je crains pour les resultats d'une note de mes notes de calculs.

     

     

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    Artur.Kosakowski
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    Re: Consequence of axis position offset-excentrement

    12-20-2011 12:23 AM in reply to: Ibrim1

     

    For the second and the third beams you can replace offsets with rigid links (very stiff columns with heights equals to the value of the offset) and analyze such models instead which will make the understanding of the results easier. In case of the middle beam in addition to the bending moment you will get axial force and if you add up bending + axial force * offset you will get similar value of bending as for the first beam. I think the attached picture is self-explanatory.

     

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    Ibrim1
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    Re: Consequence of axis position offset-excentrement

    12-20-2011 07:28 AM in reply to: Ibrim1

    Thank you for your answer.

    I have one other request : In your opinion, how can i model a beam as shown in figure (attachment)

    Is there any axial force in this case? seeing that the displacements according to beam axis are not bloked.

    Again, thank you

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    Re: Consequence of axis position offset-excentrement

    12-21-2011 12:00 AM in reply to: Ibrim1

    Personally  I would model it in the simplest way (the first beam from the 3 you showed on your previous picture) and disregard any axial forces unless you want to consider some effect of friction on the right hand support but this has nothing to do with offsets.



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