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    jeanne91
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    Registered: ‎09-05-2011
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    Bent bars reinforcement method

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    09-05-2011 10:18 AM

    Perhaps i don't know how to use bent bars (double bend) cause in 2011 version there is a bug every time i tried to put them manually because automatically it seams IMPOSSIBLE

    I don't undertstand, in older version (2010 and 19) it is simple to use them. I pry you to help me because i have one entire project in 2011 version (beams), i cannot convert them in 2010 and i cannot use the bent bars. Help me it's very serious

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    jad.dellel
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    Registered: ‎11-30-2010

    Re: Bent bars reinforcement method

    09-06-2011 04:28 AM in reply to: jeanne91

    Hi Jeanne,

    Wich code do you use? EC2, BAEL, BS8110, ACI318-02, ...?

    I assume by your explanation that you want to have reinforcement like this:

    bent_bar.png

     

    Right?

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    jeanne91
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    Registered: ‎09-05-2011

    Re: Bent bars reinforcement method

    09-06-2011 04:48 AM in reply to: jad.dellel

    It is exactlly what i want

    In general preferences i use France as regional settings

    In job preferency i use BAEL 91 mod 99

    Thanks in advance, i am waiting impatiently for an solution

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    jad.dellel
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    Re: Bent bars reinforcement method

    09-06-2011 05:02 AM in reply to: jeanne91

    If you use the BAEL code, It will be fine :smileywink:

    So,

    1- you've to check the reinforcement pattern:

    bent_bars_-_BAEL.png

     

    2- add a concentrated load, switch on the suspended option and enter the  distribution lenght:

    concentre.png 

     

    You'll find attached an example done on RSA2011_SP6, if you don't install the last updates of RSA2011, please check them here: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/index?siteID=123112&id=2334435&linkID=13140816

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    jeanne91
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    Registered: ‎09-05-2011

    Re: Bent bars reinforcement method

    09-06-2011 06:07 AM in reply to: jad.dellel

    I find the problem

    It is a bug in the definition of the suspended load, When i use relatived dimension to define loads cordinates it works 

    But When the option "relatived dimension" is disable bent bars can't be used

    You can see pictures on attached files

     

    Thank you very much

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    jad.dellel
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    Re: Bent bars reinforcement method

    09-06-2011 06:12 AM in reply to: jeanne91

     

    Thank you Jeanne for your feedback, I'll be invistigate more deeply this issue.

    Regards,

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    Structural Engineering Product Support Autodesk, Inc.

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    jad.dellel
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    Registered: ‎11-30-2010

    Re: Bent bars reinforcement method

    09-06-2011 06:28 AM in reply to: jad.dellel

     

    Jeanne,

    You're right, the workaround for this is to enter the real position of the concentrated load and switch on after the "Relative dimensions" to convert this distance automatically, thank you for your help and i will give you a kudo for this :-)

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    Structural Engineering Product Support Autodesk, Inc.

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    jeanne91
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    Registered: ‎09-05-2011

    Re: Bent bars reinforcement method

    09-06-2011 09:24 AM in reply to: jad.dellel

    Thank you

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