Autodesk Revit Architecture

[#1]

Is there any way to differentiate phase graphics at the view level? The Phasing Dialog reached from the Phasing panel on the Manage tab appears to change all graphics throughout the project (every view) whilst the right click of an element, in a view, offers graphic overrides, by Element, Category and Filter, but none appear to offer the option of 'Phase'. At this point I must confess that I have not got to grips, fully, with the later 'Filter' but it does not appear to enable the opportunity. Is this possible?

Having entered this question on the WikiHelp pages, and had no response, I thought that it might be worth repeating it here.

[#2]

There is no other way to control the visibility of Elements according to their 'Phase' other than the Phase Filter that I know of. There are work-around options such as putting them on their own Workset, adding a Project Parameter, or creating a specific family Type for existing elements (which would have the suffix "Existing") so that they can be affected by a View Filter, but they are typically pretty involved.

Could you elaborate on what exactly you are trying to accomplish and why? There may be alternative solutions...

[#3]

I am woking on a project to make substantial alterations to an existing building and am trying to produce working detail plans (each being callouts from the overall project layout plans) where the 'Existing' elements in all the 'New Construction' views are recessive (halftone if you want) and thus make it obvious that the new elements have to be built as they will stand out from those remaining of the existing elements.  I am also setting up sheets where the 'Existing' detail layout plan is to be shown next to the 'New Construction' detail view. Similarly I wish to show the 'Demolished' elements to stand out in the 'Existing' views with the elements to be retained being recessive.

Whilst I can easily set the phase colouring at the project level I do not want to have these graphic changes made at the full building plans level, but just need them to reference the detailed plans through the callouts.

I know that I can laboriosly  pick each of the elements that I want in halftone and 'Overide Graphics in View' but wish to streamline the process.  Picking all elements in the view is no good also since you cannot filter the results by phase.

If you can think of a workaround then I would be very pleased.

[#4]

I take it that you don't want to just check the "Halftone" option for Existing in Phasing » Graphic Overrides? That was, new AND demo elements will stand out. Why woundn't you want this to affect the larger Views as well?

[#5]

The Revit default with phasing is to color existing structure with a solid gray. That is readily distinguishable from new work by default. No additional picking of setting is needed.

You can also control phase filters to other settings. For instance, if you delete the projection patterns and lines  to "no overrides" and deleted the material color, and set the halftone checkbox to check, you will get default cut patterns at halftone. I like this because the existing material types are graphically distinct.

Arthur

[#6]

You control Phase graphics at the view level by changing the settings in the property of the view. Set the properties to show "demo an new" and that's all you'll see. Set to "show complete" and all linework will be "by category" with no half toning.

No need to go through object by object to apply over rides.

[#7]

The reason I don't want to highlight these differences at the overall plan scales is because there is no reason to and it will confuse.  I have one for 'as existing' (the survey) and one for 'as proposed' which I wish to be definitive and only used to reference the working detail plan views.

Please also look at my replies to two other responses I have had.

Thanks for your help.

[#8]

Arthur, thanks for your interest but I am not sure you are correct about the defaults.  Further to overide in the way you suggest will be too long winded.

[#9]

This would seem to be the obvious answer and yes it works for the 'New Construction' phase detailed view, thank you.  But I can't get it to highlight the 'demolished' elements in the 'Existing' phase detailed view.  I have tried creating a new 'Phase Filter' which I named 'Highlight Demolished' but have just confused myself. When I tried it everything but rooms disappeared!

I think I need to get to grips with phase filters and graphic overides which currently defeat my logic!

[#10]

I have spent a little time now reading about phase filters and realised that I had to create another phase which I called 'Demolished' and set the  items to be demolished as demolished in this phase.  I was then able to apply this new phase to the previously 'Existing' phase detail view and set the a new phase filter called 'Highlight Demolished' to the view. I could have marked the demolished elements as demolished in the exiting phase but clearly this would not be true.  Highlighting of the newly constructed elements works as you said in your earlier response.  Thanks