Autodesk Revit Architecture

[#1]

I have an issue with openings not being able to be phased.  In renovation projects it is quite common to widen an existing wall opening, for example.  However, openings cannot be phased, they can only be existing and therefore the only workaround is to add the 'new' opening, with its eventual width, in the 'as existing' view set and close it to the 'existing' width with a wall, or walls, that can be then be demolished in the 'new construction' views!  How mad is that?

[#2]

1. Try using a "frameless window"--open a window family, save-as, delete everything unneeded, keep the opening cut.

Load into your project. Use it in whatever Phase you need. Change sizes, etc. Schedule as needed.

2. Use Edit Profile of the wall to indicate the opening.

3. Use an in-place Void and Cut Geometry to create an "opening".

Just a few workarounds.

cheers

[#3]

Cliff, thanks for the suggested workarounds, I shall have to try them out.  However, they are workarounds and for the BIM tag Revit has, surely it would be much better to have openings being phaseable (if there is such a word) and ultimately a schedule of demolitions would then be accurate.

[#4]

Hi IMCornish,  

As designed, phases cannot be assigned to openings created by the wall opening tool.  Rather than using the wall opening command, you could place an opening family such as the opening.rfa family found in the windows library or the other suggestions from ccollins.  

This has been logged with our Development group as a wishlist item.

The following link is setup for you to submit feature requests, or feedback, directly to our Development group:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=1109794

I recommend sending this as a wishlist request through the link as our development group is always interested in your feedback, and coming from an end user, it offers a compelling business case.


Best regards,



John Lipp
Support Specialist
Product Support
Autodesk, Inc.

[#5]

Thank you John, I have done as you have suggested and appreciate your added workarounds.  My position is perhaps a little over expectant but the virtual BIM world must, I believe, match the real world as closely as is possible if its reports, at all levels, are to be a believable and accurate forecast to be taken forward.

[#6]

Having used the workaround and used door_opening.rfa to create my 'phased' opening, I have run into another issue. How do you connect two rooms as a single space since the door, albeit an opening, divides the space just as the wall did since it is Room-Bounding whilst a wall opening is not. I looked at the creating a door opening that is not Room Bounding but this cannot be done. Some would add 'obviously' here I expect. In summary, I am unable to cut an opening in an existing wall to combine two spaces (Rooms) in a proposed design without having the opening appear on the 'as existing' views and if I use the 'door_opening' workaround, I cannot have the two original spaces combine into one. Furthermore the later also shows the door opening footprint as a white space separating the room colours if you are using a colour scheme on your floor plans. Any other workarounds gratefully received.

[#7]

also openings in roofs or floors cannot have a phase.

i have to build the roof or floor again to make a new opening in a different phase.

this was on the wish list..... for how long?

[#8]

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IMCornish wrote:
... Any other workarounds gratefully received.

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What if the wall that hosts the opening is made not rooom bounding, so that the two adjacent spaces join?

[#9]

Thanks Alfredo, will try that and report back. 

[#10]

Sounds like I have picked up this issue late, apologies if it is already on a wish list.  Surprised that it hasn't been included in the 2013 release if this is the case.  You also raise the importance of this thread by expanding the discussion to other openings, thanks.