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12-17-2009 03:35 AM
Hi,
I did simulations for bell shaped part with walls of different thickness. Wall thickness ranges from 1,5 mm to 3 mm at the bottom of the bell, 4 to 5 mm in middle, 6 mm at the top of the bell. Part also has some thin walled ribs inside. I did two types od simulation - first with dual domain analysis, second one - 3D analysis. Average temperature differs the most - about 50 deg C. Pressure at end of fill differs about 4 MPa, 28 MPa for dual domain, 24 MPa for 3D. Which analysis is more reliable in this case. Import wizard advises using dual domain analysis.
Thanks for Your help.
Marcin
I did simulations for bell shaped part with walls of different thickness. Wall thickness ranges from 1,5 mm to 3 mm at the bottom of the bell, 4 to 5 mm in middle, 6 mm at the top of the bell. Part also has some thin walled ribs inside. I did two types od simulation - first with dual domain analysis, second one - 3D analysis. Average temperature differs the most - about 50 deg C. Pressure at end of fill differs about 4 MPa, 28 MPa for dual domain, 24 MPa for 3D. Which analysis is more reliable in this case. Import wizard advises using dual domain analysis.
Thanks for Your help.
Marcin
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12-18-2009 02:07 AM in reply to:
apator
Hi Marcin,
from what you are saying, the model in general should be suitable for the DD Technology.
Does the difference in Temp only happens in some regions, (hot spots) so it might be an meshing issue?
What CAD data input did you use? STL, native CAD data? With STL, AMA might have a problem remeshing the high aspect ratio facets from the STL mesh.
Regards and happy XMas
Olaf
from what you are saying, the model in general should be suitable for the DD Technology.
Does the difference in Temp only happens in some regions, (hot spots) so it might be an meshing issue?
What CAD data input did you use? STL, native CAD data? With STL, AMA might have a problem remeshing the high aspect ratio facets from the STL mesh.
Regards and happy XMas
Olaf
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12-18-2009 05:58 AM in reply to:
apator
Thanks Olaf,
As You suggested probably the mesh caused the problem. Difference in temp isn't global but happens in small regions ( 3 thin bolts of diameter 1,5 mm, 4 mm high, at the bottom of part). Mesh was created with edge length of 1 mm. Should I decrease edge length to solve the problem?
I imported data from x_t file created in SolidWorks2009SP3.0.
Regards and happy Xmas
Marcin
As You suggested probably the mesh caused the problem. Difference in temp isn't global but happens in small regions ( 3 thin bolts of diameter 1,5 mm, 4 mm high, at the bottom of part). Mesh was created with edge length of 1 mm. Should I decrease edge length to solve the problem?
I imported data from x_t file created in SolidWorks2009SP3.0.
Regards and happy Xmas
Marcin
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12-18-2009 01:17 PM in reply to:
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Hi Marcin,
did you use Synergy to create the mesh?
If yes, try to reduce mesh size in these regions locally and check the elment thickness and mesh matching in Synergy.
Best regards
Olaf
did you use Synergy to create the mesh?
If yes, try to reduce mesh size in these regions locally and check the elment thickness and mesh matching in Synergy.
Best regards
Olaf
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11-14-2011 04:08 AM in reply to:
OlafSchneider7067
repair the mesh and go for DD for such article

