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    *Cross, Gary

    Pardims have wrong dimscale factor in view

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    09-20-2001 07:15 AM
    Is there any other one else having this problem or is it just me?

    Some pardims have the wrong dim scale factor in a views ( example-scale is
    1:2 but dimscale factor lists as is -4 ) & it's causing me headaches.

    I can't verify if it was before or after SP1.

    Gary Cross
    gcross@crossdesign.com
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    *Cross, Gary

    Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

    09-20-2001 08:36 AM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
    That should read DIMLFAC not dimscale-big difference
    And, I can't seem to change it by changing the DIMLFAC & updating the dim.

    It's normally automatic but does anyone know how to correct the DIMLFAC on
    pardims like this as a work around?

    Gary Cross
    gcross@crossdesign.com


    "Gary Cross" wrote in message
    news:46834B4F8C3E7FEDCA37C535B5051C23@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > Is there any other one else having this problem or is it just me?
    >
    > Some pardims have the wrong dim scale factor in a views ( example-scale is
    > 1:2 but dimscale factor lists as is -4 ) & it's causing me headaches.
    >
    > I can't verify if it was before or after SP1.
    >
    > Gary Cross
    > gcross@crossdesign.com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    *Sense\, CAD

    Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

    09-20-2001 08:36 AM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
    Gary,

    I have seen and reported (verifed) a serious bug with MDT6 dimensioning. I'm
    not sure if this is the same as the trouble you are having but it is worth
    mentioning anyway.

    If you have 2 overlapping MDT6 views which are at different scales, MDT
    power dimensioning will sometimes get confused about which view the
    dimension is attached to and set the linear scale for the dimension off the
    wrong viewport. So in effect your dimension value is wrong. I discovered
    this AFTER the fact that it cost my company a lot of down time and money.

    So the moral is if you have overlapping views in MDT6 keep a eye on your
    dimensions as they could be wrong. MDT5 never done this BTW.
    And yes I have plenty of examples of this that I can post if req.

    Brian Corbin
    CAD Sense

    "Gary Cross" wrote in message
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    > That should read DIMLFAC not dimscale-big difference
    > And, I can't seem to change it by changing the DIMLFAC & updating the dim.
    >
    > It's normally automatic but does anyone know how to correct the DIMLFAC on
    > pardims like this as a work around?
    >
    > Gary Cross
    > gcross@crossdesign.com
    >
    >
    > "Gary Cross" wrote in message
    > news:46834B4F8C3E7FEDCA37C535B5051C23@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > Is there any other one else having this problem or is it just me?
    > >
    > > Some pardims have the wrong dim scale factor in a views ( example-scale
    is
    > > 1:2 but dimscale factor lists as is -4 ) & it's causing me headaches.
    > >
    > > I can't verify if it was before or after SP1.
    > >
    > > Gary Cross
    > > gcross@crossdesign.com
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
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    *Keller, Kent

    Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

    09-20-2001 11:46 AM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
    Brian

    Are you sure they have to overlap? As I remember it was just the sequence of
    dimensioning one view and then dimensioning the other that is a different scale.

    --
    Kent Keller
    http://kwik-mcad.scriptmania.com/
    Check out the Mechanical Desktop FAQ @
    http://mymcad.com/
    See the MDT/ Inventor wishlists!
    www.cadsense.co.nz/wishmain.htm


    "Brian Corbin (CAD Sense)" wrote in message
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    >
    >
    > Gary,
    >
    > I have seen and reported (verifed) a serious bug with MDT6 dimensioning. I'm
    > not sure if this is the same as the trouble you are having but it is worth
    > mentioning anyway.
    >
    > If you have 2 overlapping MDT6 views which are at different scales, MDT
    >
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    *Sense\, CAD

    Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

    09-20-2001 11:46 AM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
    Kent,

    As far as I have seen it has only been with overlapping views. This whole
    (EDITED) bug quite frankly scares the (EDITED) out of me. If ya cant trust the dims
    coming from your CAD package, what can you trust. It has been WEEKS since
    this bug has been verifed, and I have heard absolute zip from Autodesk
    regarding if it is fixed or even being worked on.

    Dont get me started on this thing. It already cost my company a LOT of
    money. Im biting my tounge about all things Autodesk at the moment.

    Brian

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    "Kent Keller" wrote in message
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    > Brian
    >
    > Are you sure they have to overlap? As I remember it was just the sequence
    Please use plain text.
    *Cross, Gary

    Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

    09-20-2001 12:08 PM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
    Brian,
    Overlapping view ports makes about as much sense as anything else I could
    come up with. Your right, I never had this happen in MDT5 or prior.

    This an extremely serious bug whatever the cause. It makes it very difficult
    to have confidence in dimensions. I posted previously how difficult it is to
    find the problems dims if the scales used are very close to one another.

    The text message for SP1 was vague about the actual fixes. Does anyone know
    if this was addressed? Perhaps views from Sp1 on won't have this problem.
    But Sp1 does not seem to fix existing dimension scale factor inaccuracies.

    Gary Cross
    gcross@crossdesign.com




    "Brian Corbin (CAD Sense)" wrote in message
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    >
    >
    > Gary,
    >
    > I have seen and reported (verifed) a serious bug with MDT6 dimensioning.
    I'm
    > not sure if this is the same as the trouble you are having but it is worth
    > mentioning anyway.
    >
    > If you have 2 overlapping MDT6 views which are at different scales, MDT
    > power dimensioning will sometimes get confused about which view the
    > dimension is attached to and set the linear scale for the dimension off
    the
    > wrong viewport. So in effect your dimension value is wrong. I discovered
    > this AFTER the fact that it cost my company a lot of down time and money.
    >
    > So the moral is if you have overlapping views in MDT6 keep a eye on your
    > dimensions as they could be wrong. MDT5 never done this BTW.
    > And yes I have plenty of examples of this that I can post if req.
    >
    > Brian Corbin
    > CAD Sense
    >
    > "Gary Cross" wrote in message
    > news:8651D8D10C4DE01FE71E1E528041612C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > That should read DIMLFAC not dimscale-big difference
    > > And, I can't seem to change it by changing the DIMLFAC & updating the
    dim.
    > >
    > > It's normally automatic but does anyone know how to correct the DIMLFAC
    on
    > > pardims like this as a work around?
    > >
    > > Gary Cross
    > > gcross@crossdesign.com
    > >
    > >
    > > "Gary Cross" wrote in message
    > > news:46834B4F8C3E7FEDCA37C535B5051C23@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > Is there any other one else having this problem or is it just me?
    > > >
    > > > Some pardims have the wrong dim scale factor in a views (
    example-scale
    > is
    > > > 1:2 but dimscale factor lists as is -4 ) & it's causing me headaches.
    > > >
    > > > I can't verify if it was before or after SP1.
    > > >
    > > > Gary Cross
    > > > gcross@crossdesign.com
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
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    *Keller, Kent

    Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

    09-20-2001 02:03 PM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
    Brian

    About lost you in the mix here.... your computer clock appears to be offby about 12
    hours
    Not to set you off more, but ......
    Here is a post from a while back from Chris Hutchinson. I haven't had a chance to
    see if this was fixed in SP1 or not.

    Try the following scenario:

    1)Create a Revolved part.
    2) Create a "End View" of the part
    3) Create a Full Section View of the part
    4) Create a Detail View based of a intersection of the Full Section View
    that is Scaled 2X size.
    5) Create a AMPOWERDIM dimension on the detail.
    6) Create a AMREFDIM dimension on the Full Section View of the same feature
    dimensioned in the detail

    Are the dimensions showing the SAME values?...Mine DON'T because the
    AMPOWERDIM command has created a Dim OVERRIDE Style with the Scale Factor
    set for the Detail View, so now when I use AMREFDIM for the Full Section
    View the OVERRIDE Style is used and a dimension is generated with the wrong
    Scale Factor!!!

    --
    Kent Keller
    http://kwik-mcad.scriptmania.com/
    Check out the Mechanical Desktop FAQ @
    http://mymcad.com/
    See the MDT/ Inventor wishlists!
    www.cadsense.co.nz/wishmain.htm


    "Brian Corbin (CAD Sense)" wrote in message
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    >
    >
    > Kent,
    >
    > As far as I have seen it has only been with overlapping views.
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    *Howard, Jeff

    Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

    09-20-2001 06:16 PM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
    Gary, see post "MDT6 Dimensioning Practices" (or something like that on
    about 8/8).
    Jeff
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    Gary Cross wrote in message
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    .....does anyone know how to correct the DIMLFAC on pardims like this as a
    work around?

    Gary Cross
    gcross@crossdesign.com
    Please use plain text.
    *Autodesk\

    Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

    09-20-2001 11:18 PM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
    Brian,

    The dimensioning problem you reported with overlapping viewports was
    addressed with SP1.

    Mike Dickason
    Developer
    Autodesk Mechanical Group

    "Brian Corbin (CAD Sense)" wrote in message
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    >
    >
    > Kent,
    >
    > As far as I have seen it has only been with overlapping views. This whole
    > (EDITED) bug quite frankly scares the (EDITED) out of me. If ya cant trust
    the dims
    > coming from your CAD package, what can you trust. It has been WEEKS since
    > this bug has been verifed, and I have heard absolute zip from Autodesk
    > regarding if it is fixed or even being worked on.
    >
    > Dont get me started on this thing. It already cost my company a LOT of
    > money. Im biting my tounge about all things Autodesk at the moment.
    >
    > Brian
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Brian Corbin
    > CAD Sense
    > 025 22 99 415
    > +64 3 327 22 26
    > "Kent Keller" wrote in message
    > news:1244D65586C4325DBE1CBA9FA5CF4DE1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > Brian
    > >
    > > Are you sure they have to overlap? As I remember it was just the
    sequence
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    *Howard, Jeff

    Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

    09-21-2001 12:21 AM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
    YES! It appears that sp1 fixed a basket full of dim (dimlfac, dim style,
    amsymscale) problems. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    Jeff
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    Mike Dickason (Autodesk) wrote in message
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    Brian,

    The dimensioning problem you reported with overlapping viewports was
    addressed with SP1.

    Mike Dickason
    Developer
    Autodesk Mechanical Group
    Please use plain text.