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    Registered: ‎05-11-2004

    BOM - balloons

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    01-09-2008 07:21 AM
    XP PRO SP2 INV2008 SUITE - MDT 2008
    I have just started using MDT2008 and am already pulling my hair out....
    Situation - Large assembly with multiple external subassemblies and even some of these subassemblies have subassemblies..
    Problem - how do I get MDT2008 to balloon single parts in the drawing layout? I have read that I need to create a bill of materials for each assembly, subassembly, but when I use the ambom command, I just get the main BOM and when I balloon, I can only balloon the assemblies. Do I need to create a BOM for every single assembly and subassembly? They already exist in the external file but can't seem to access in the main model.

    Just a thought - what was wrong with the way MDT ballooned before? In MDT6 I could toggle between part, sub-assembly, and assembly with the same balloon and same BOM. I guess that was too easy?
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    Active Contributor
    Posts: 47
    Registered: ‎05-11-2004

    Re: BOM - balloons

    01-09-2008 01:11 PM in reply to: stevenmuthart
    Nevermind everybody....went back to MDT6 because everything after that is a POS!!!! What a waste of time.
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    Registered: ‎08-18-2007

    Re: BOM - balloons

    01-14-2008 03:20 AM in reply to: stevenmuthart
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    XP PRO SP2 INV2008 SUITE - MDT 2008
    I have just started using MDT2008 and am already pulling my hair out....
    Situation - Large assembly with multiple external subassemblies and even
    some of these subassemblies have subassemblies..
    Problem - how do I get MDT2008 to balloon single parts in the drawing
    layout? I have read that I need to create a bill of materials for each
    assembly, subassembly, but when I use the ambom command, I just get the main
    BOM and when I balloon, I can only balloon the assemblies. Do I need to
    create a BOM for every single assembly and subassembly? They already exist
    in the external file but can't seem to access in the main model.

    Just a thought - what was wrong with the way MDT ballooned before? In MDT6 I
    could toggle between part, sub-assembly, and assembly with the same balloon
    and same BOM. I guess that was too easy?

    We have the same problem...
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    Employee
    Posts: 1,056
    Registered: ‎12-18-2006

    Re: BOM - balloons

    01-14-2008 08:25 PM in reply to: stevenmuthart
    Hi,

    Please follow below steps and let me know if it works for you.

    1. Command ambom
    2. click on Expand/Collapse button such that BOM is expanded (image attached) and you see all single parts
    3. now try to balloon using AutoAll or Auto option in balloon.

    By the way, you need not create BOM for every single sub assenbly.

    Please let me know if this helps.

    Thanks,
    Sridhar


    Sridhar Subramani
    Autodesk, Inc.
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    *Jason Rhymes

    Re: BOM - balloons

    01-15-2008 12:34 PM in reply to: stevenmuthart
    Sridhar, while you're on the subject of bom, is it possible to get bom/parts
    list to sort by item number ascending on a structured list? Never could get
    this to work. Something that have been bugging me for a while.
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    Employee
    Posts: 1,056
    Registered: ‎12-18-2006

    Re: BOM - balloons

    01-15-2008 08:36 PM in reply to: stevenmuthart
    Hi Jason,

    I could sort by item number in ascending or descending order on a structered view of BOM and Parts list. Find attached image file.

    1. command ambom or ampartlist
    2. change the view type to "Structure View"
    3. click Sort-->in the sort dialog box-->select item under "Key1" and enable ascending or descending
    4. click OK on all dialog boxes to see the parts sorted.

    If this is not the issue, please provide few more detailed steps or a sample dwg and expected result.

    Thanks,
    Sridhar


    Sridhar Subramani
    Autodesk, Inc.
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    *Jason Rhymes

    Re: BOM - balloons

    01-16-2008 06:55 AM in reply to: stevenmuthart
    Thanks Sridhar, The problem is with the subs resorting (see attached). The
    main level parts resort fine but if the item #s are not in the correct order
    in the subs, nothing happens, they stay in that order. That is in the BOM.
    If I sort in a parts list, it's very unpredictable as to what will happen.

    Mechanical Desktop(R) 2007 SP2
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    Employee
    Posts: 1,056
    Registered: ‎12-18-2006

    Re: BOM - balloons

    01-16-2008 08:53 PM in reply to: stevenmuthart
    Hi Jason,

    I could see the issue and reproduce it. I have notified our development team.

    Thank you for reporting this issue.

    Regards,
    Sridhar


    Sridhar Subramani
    Autodesk, Inc.
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    *Jason Rhymes

    Re: BOM - balloons

    01-17-2008 06:51 AM in reply to: stevenmuthart
    Thanks Sridhar. Didn't know it was a bug or I would have reported it sooner.
    It's been around for as long as I've been using MDT. I just assumed it was
    something that couldn't be fixed.
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