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    degrees of freedom in 3d sketch

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    01-08-2013 02:28 PM

    Does anybody know a way to check the "degrees of freedom" of entities and vertices in 3d sketches?

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    Re: degrees of freedom in 3d sketch

    01-08-2013 03:32 PM in reply to: cadman777

    Other than moving the vertex around?  If you right-click the vertex and choose "3D Move/Rotate", you can use the triad to move it.

     

    I don't know if there is a "Show degrees of freedom" option like there is for a 2D sketch...

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    Re: degrees of freedom in 3d sketch

    01-08-2013 03:43 PM in reply to: cwhetten

    Yeah, that's what I already do.

    but when my 3d sketches show some green lines (not all black), I know they are not completely constrained.

    How can I find out how to completely constrain them?
    Do you know a good link that explains the details of this?

    Incidentally, none of the vertices move along any of the 3 axes, meaning they are all completely fixed.

    So why would some of the lines show up green?

    See attached sketch.

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    Re: degrees of freedom in 3d sketch

    01-08-2013 04:15 PM in reply to: cadman777

    I've noticed that sometimes 3D sketches will do that.  The entities are fully constrained, but the colors don't update to reflect this.  When I dragged the vertex in your first 3D sketch, it didn't move and the colors updated to show as fully constrained.  But, when I exited the sketch, they went back to unconstrained colors.

     

    It's annoying, and frankly I think it's a bug.

     

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    Re: degrees of freedom in 3d sketch

    01-09-2013 03:23 AM in reply to: cwhetten

    Thanks.

    That's all I need to know.

    I wonder why Adsk refuses to fix thse age-old defects in theri software??

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    Re: degrees of freedom in 3d sketch

    01-09-2013 03:58 AM in reply to: cadman777

    Nearly all of my 3D sketches are created and controlled by 2D sketches.

    Can you attach a file that exhibits this behavior?

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    Re: degrees of freedom in 3d sketch

    01-09-2013 04:10 AM in reply to: JDMather

    JD,

    Yes. Just scoll back up the page and you'll find one.

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    Re: degrees of freedom in 3d sketch

    01-09-2013 04:17 AM in reply to: cadman777

    oops, I missed that attachment.

    I would use 2D sketches to create and control (might not even use 3D sketch at all for that).

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    Re: degrees of freedom in 3d sketch

    01-09-2013 05:53 PM in reply to: JDMather

    JD,

     

    Every time I do a job, I consider whether or not to use a "proven" method that has problems, or trying to invent a new method to do things.

     

    This time I wanted to try 3d sketches to see if they don't break when things change. That's the problem I consistently encounter when using projected entities between sketches.

     

    How do you propose keeping projected entities btw sketches from breaking when dims and geometric shapes change?

     

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    Re: degrees of freedom in 3d sketch

    01-10-2013 11:40 AM in reply to: cadman777

    Now that I'm working these 3d sketches, it seems like this problem happens only with angled lines.

    I realize there's no such thing as an angled line in 3d space. Probably has something to do with construction planes and orthographic basis of the 3d sketches?

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