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    What the heck does this error message mean?

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    10-23-2008 08:48 AM
    Ok, I know that software writers use some completely different type of brain than the rest of us seem to have, but why can't they at least give us a message that is understandable?

    I know that this has been disscussed to death here, but here I go with a new one.

    And I quote "Illegal attempt to create identified child transaction inside an unidentified transaction".

    ????????????????

    I am trying to place a constraint on two parts the same constraint I have place on identical parts (all from the content center) hundereds of times.

    What in the world does that message actuall mean to me? Beats the heck out of me!!

    Anyone have any pearly words of wisdom to impart on this cryptic message??

    I will just be sitting here scratching my head till that happens.

    Thanks
    Thom
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    *Steven Dennis \(Autodesk\)

    Re: What the heck does this error message mean?

    10-23-2008 09:27 AM in reply to: mr.thom

    Yes our brains do work different than most!
    :-)

     

    This message does make sense to us Inventor
    developers. For this particular issue I'm not sure how we could make it more
    "non-developer" friendly.

     

    What it means is that our internal memory mappings
    (for undo, etc.) have gotten confused.

     

    I will have one of our QA guys try to get your
    dataset from you, these issues are generally data set specific.

     

    Steve Dennis

    Autodesk Inventor Modeling Tech Lead

     


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    Ok,
    I know that software writers use some completely different type of brain than
    the rest of us seem to have, but why can't they at least give us a message
    that is understandable? I know that this has been disscussed to death here,
    but here I go with a new one. And I quote "Illegal attempt to create
    identified child transaction inside an unidentified transaction".
    ???????????????? I am trying to place a constraint on two parts the same
    constraint I have place on identical parts (all from the content center)
    hundereds of times. What in the world does that message actuall mean to me?
    Beats the heck out of me!! Anyone have any pearly words of wisdom to impart on
    this cryptic message?? I will just be sitting here scratching my head till
    that happens. Thanks Thom
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    *Gary Tafoya \(Autodesk\)

    Re: What the heck does this error message mean?

    10-23-2008 09:35 AM in reply to: mr.thom

    Mr. Thom,

     

    If possible could you zip the assembly and email it
    to me at gary.tafoya@autodesk.com
    so we can take a look at it? Hopefully the dataset isn't too large and can be
    sent over email.

     

    Thanks,
    --
    Gary Tafoya
    Autodesk
    Inventor Assembly QA

     

     


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    Yes our brains do work different than most!
    :-)

     

    This message does make sense to us Inventor
    developers. For this particular issue I'm not sure how we could make it more
    "non-developer" friendly.

     

    What it means is that our internal memory
    mappings (for undo, etc.) have gotten confused.

     

    I will have one of our QA guys try to get your
    dataset from you, these issues are generally data set specific.

     

    Steve Dennis

    Autodesk Inventor Modeling Tech Lead

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    Ok,
    I know that software writers use some completely different type of brain
    than the rest of us seem to have, but why can't they at least give us a
    message that is understandable? I know that this has been disscussed to
    death here, but here I go with a new one. And I quote "Illegal attempt to
    create identified child transaction inside an unidentified transaction".
    ???????????????? I am trying to place a constraint on two parts the same
    constraint I have place on identical parts (all from the content center)
    hundereds of times. What in the world does that message actuall mean to me?
    Beats the heck out of me!! Anyone have any pearly words of wisdom to impart
    on this cryptic message?? I will just be sitting here scratching my head
    till that happens. Thanks Thom
    Please use plain text.
    Contributor
    Posts: 11
    Registered: ‎02-18-2009

    Re: What the heck does this error message mean?

    06-29-2010 07:32 AM in reply to: *Gary Tafoya \(Autodesk\)

    Any help on resolving this issue...

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    Dave_SSDD9000
    Posts: 10
    Registered: ‎08-25-2011

    Re: What the heck does this error message mean?

    08-25-2011 04:34 PM in reply to: mr.thom

    Any news on this issue. I keep getting this message which immediately precedes Inventor crashing.

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    Contributor
    Posts: 37
    Registered: ‎07-24-2002

    Re: What the heck does this error message mean?

    06-22-2012 08:31 AM in reply to: Dave_SSDD9000

    Saw that the original post was the error when they were trying to create a constraint in an assembly.  I have not seen that one BUT many, many, many times I will be creating an IPN, do the Tweak command, pick a direction, select some parts then try to drag them and I'll get :

     

    Serious error - Illegal attempt to create identified child transaction inside an unidentified transaction. OK

     

    and in the background at the same time I get another small window (usually covered by the first error window) stating :

     

    Vault - <some part number> is currently locked.  Do you want to continue editing anyway?  Your changes will not get saved to Vault.  YES - YES TO ALL - NO - NO TO ALL

     

    If I click OK on the error window and NO on the locked window, the parts snap back to where they were and I cannot drag them.  If I click OK on the error and then YES (or YES TO ALL if it's more then one part) then the parts snap back to where they were, I try the drag again and nothing moves, then I try it a third time and they drag and stay. 

     

    And not sure WHY Inventor thinks a part is somehow changing when you're tweaking it in an IPN.  That's just (supposed to be) a view tool that I don't believe is actually supposed to touch any parts.

     

    This is a pretty repeatable situation.  The one I pulled up to get this example, the part causing the error was just created in the last couple days and about an hour ago it was checked in to Vault and changed to Released (and updated in my Workspace). This is a very common occurance and really puts a dent in productivity. 

     

    Just for reference were running INV 2012 64-bit, Build 219, Release 2012 SP2, Date Fri 04/27/2012 under Windows 7 Enterprise SP1.  We're also running Collaboratoin so not sure how to look up what Version of Vault (in case that matters).

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    jletcher
    Posts: 1,316
    Registered: ‎05-18-2011

    Re: What the heck does this error message mean?

    06-22-2012 10:45 AM in reply to: *Gary Tafoya \(Autodesk\)

    Why don't you developers stop adding things like the time wasting ribbon and fix all the bugs Inventor has.........


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    James Letcher
    2012 Factory Design Suite ( will not load 2013)
    What happen to my Inventor :-(
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    Posts: 130
    Registered: ‎03-16-2009

    Re: What the heck does this error message mean?

    02-14-2013 02:39 PM in reply to: *Steven Dennis \(Autodesk\)

    Any word on this issue as far as a fix?

    Senior Designer/Cad Administrator
    Inventor 2012, w/SP2
    Dell Precision T3500, Intel Xeon CPU
    W3680 @3.33GHz, 16.0 GB of RAM
    Microsoft Windows 7 Pro, 64 Bit Edition
    Version 2009, w/SP1
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