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    Contributor frm
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    Tubular trouble

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    09-20-2003 09:32 PM
    Is it possible to make a from-to tubular extrusion from one tubular to another hitting the outside of the tubes?
    There’s the minimum solution thingy but it only works in one direction.
    I’m doing a lot of tube work (Off-shore constructions) so any help would be much appreciated.

    Best regards

    Flemming

    LICengineering
    DK Denmark
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    *Keller, Kent

    Re: Tubular trouble

    09-21-2003 12:54 AM in reply to: frm
    I am not sure I understand where you are having trouble. I am posting a
    simple example to customer files where a tube hits two others, and uses
    Minimum solution on both.

    --
    Kent Keller
    http://www.MyMcad.com/KWiK/Mcad.htm

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    "frm" wrote in message
    news:f18c1d2.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > Is it possible to make a from-to tubular extrusion from one tubular to
    another hitting the outside of the tubes?
    > There's the minimum solution thingy but it only works in one
    direction.
    > I'm doing a lot of tube work (Off-shore constructions) so any help
    would be much appreciated.
    > Best regards
    >
    > Flemming
    >
    > LICengineering
    > DK Denmark
    >
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    Contributor frm
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    Registered: ‎10-28-2003

    Re:

    09-21-2003 11:30 PM in reply to: frm
    Hello Kent
    Thank’s for your suggestion.
    I was trying to make it work in one operation, see attachment in CF, but maybe that’s not possible?

    Regards

    Flemming
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    *Keller, Kent

    Re:

    09-22-2003 01:34 AM in reply to: frm
    I had never tried doing it like that before.

    I have no idea if it is as designed or a fluke or ?? but on your part I edited the feature
    and on the More tab I hit the other alternate solution button, and now both ends appear to
    be to the minimum solution.

    The odd thing is the next time you edit the feature the alternate solution is back to the
    original button and if you ok out without making any changes it reverts to going to the
    outside on one side. BTW I don't have R6 here so I am using R7 to do this.

    --
    Kent
    Assistant Moderator
    Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program


    "frm" wrote in message news:f18c1d2.1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > Hello Kent
    > Thank's for your suggestion.
    > I was trying to make it work in one operation, see attachment in CF, but maybe that's
    not possible?
    > Regards
    >
    > Flemming
    >
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    Contributor frm
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    Posts: 13
    Registered: ‎10-28-2003

    Re:

    09-22-2003 04:21 PM in reply to: frm
    Morning Kent
    I tried editing the tubes and they behave as you said. Weird.
    Well maybe I just have to do it the other way. But it’s annoying when you are working on a 60 to 100 meter jacket with a lot of cross bracing. There’s much scrollwork to do in the browser panel :-)
    This might be something for the wish list. “Minimum solution both directions”.

    Thank’s again

    Regards

    Flemming
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    *Yeandle, Laurence

    Re:

    09-23-2003 04:37 PM in reply to: frm
    This is a bug IMO whatever.
    I am afraid I am so rusty on IV that I have even forgot how I made a tubular
    model similar to your work albeit on a smaller scale.
    But for now you will have to accept a short cut to what ever my method was,
    flip normal work plane 1.

    Perhaps someone can send this one to Autodesk?

    --
    Laurence,

    Power is nothing without Control
    ---


    "frm" wrote in message news:f18c1d2.3@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > Morning Kent
    > I tried editing the tubes and they behave as you said. Weird.
    > Well maybe I just have to do it the other way. But it's annoying when you
    are working on a 60 to 100 meter jacket with a lot of cross bracing. There's
    much scrollwork to do in the browser panel :-)
    > This might be something for the wish list. "Minimum solution both
    directions".
    > Thank's again
    >
    > Regards
    >
    > Flemming
    >
    Please use plain text.
    *Ham, Teun

    Re:

    09-28-2003 04:19 PM in reply to: frm
    Try this:

    1) Start new part (middlepipe.ipt)
    2) Derive Master.ipt
    3) Extrude sketch2 as a surface (both outer pipes)
    4) Extrude sketch1 to pipe on left (surface), using minimum solution
    5) Extrude sketch1 again to pipe on right (surface), using minimum solution

    "Laurence Yeandle" wrote
    in message news:29D431FA91E33E1D72448CF37E4E3588@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > This is a bug IMO whatever.
    > I am afraid I am so rusty on IV that I have even forgot how I made a
    tubular
    > model similar to your work albeit on a smaller scale.
    > But for now you will have to accept a short cut to what ever my method
    was,
    > flip normal work plane 1.
    >
    > Perhaps someone can send this one to Autodesk?
    >
    > --
    > Laurence,
    >
    > Power is nothing without Control
    > ---
    >
    >
    > "frm" wrote in message news:f18c1d2.3@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > Morning Kent
    > > I tried editing the tubes and they behave as you said. Weird.
    > > Well maybe I just have to do it the other way. But it's annoying when
    you
    > are working on a 60 to 100 meter jacket with a lot of cross bracing.
    There's
    > much scrollwork to do in the browser panel :-)
    > > This might be something for the wish list. "Minimum solution both
    > directions".
    > > Thank's again
    > >
    > > Regards
    > >
    > > Flemming
    > >
    >
    >
    Please use plain text.
    *Ham, Teun

    Re:

    09-29-2003 05:52 AM in reply to: frm
    I have placed an example in IVCF

    "Teun Ham" schreef in bericht
    news:1B79D27A2D9590B7E1986716D0414BE8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > Try this:
    >
    > 1) Start new part (middlepipe.ipt)
    > 2) Derive Master.ipt
    > 3) Extrude sketch2 as a surface (both outer pipes)
    > 4) Extrude sketch1 to pipe on left (surface), using minimum solution
    > 5) Extrude sketch1 again to pipe on right (surface), using minimum
    solution
    >
    > "Laurence Yeandle" wrote
    > in message news:29D431FA91E33E1D72448CF37E4E3588@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > This is a bug IMO whatever.
    > > I am afraid I am so rusty on IV that I have even forgot how I made a
    > tubular
    > > model similar to your work albeit on a smaller scale.
    > > But for now you will have to accept a short cut to what ever my method
    > was,
    > > flip normal work plane 1.
    > >
    > > Perhaps someone can send this one to Autodesk?
    > >
    > > --
    > > Laurence,
    > >
    > > Power is nothing without Control
    > > ---
    > >
    > >
    > > "frm" wrote in message
    news:f18c1d2.3@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > Morning Kent
    > > > I tried editing the tubes and they behave as you said. Weird.
    > > > Well maybe I just have to do it the other way. But it's annoying when
    > you
    > > are working on a 60 to 100 meter jacket with a lot of cross bracing.
    > There's
    > > much scrollwork to do in the browser panel :-)
    > > > This might be something for the wish list. "Minimum solution both
    > > directions".
    > > > Thank's again
    > > >
    > > > Regards
    > > >
    > > > Flemming
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
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    *Keller, Kent

    Re:

    09-29-2003 06:01 AM in reply to: frm
    Teun

    I posted a similar solution on 09/21 but the point is valid that it should be able to do
    minimum solution both directions.

    --
    Kent
    Assistant Moderator
    Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program


    "Teun Ham" wrote in message
    news:650A49868D409BB401E86C2F2368BBDC@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > I have placed an example in IVCF
    >
    > "Teun Ham" schreef in bericht
    > news:1B79D27A2D9590B7E1986716D0414BE8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > Try this:
    > >
    > > 1) Start new part (middlepipe.ipt)
    > > 2) Derive Master.ipt
    > > 3) Extrude sketch2 as a surface (both outer pipes)
    > > 4) Extrude sketch1 to pipe on left (surface), using minimum solution
    > > 5) Extrude sketch1 again to pipe on right (surface), using minimum
    > solution
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    *Ham, Teun

    Re:

    09-29-2003 06:05 AM in reply to: frm
    Yes, I agree. And it is me who posted a similar solution, not you :-D

    I only wanted to show that you can achief the same thing with only 1 derived
    master sketch (or skeleton part as I would call it).
    Deriving too many parts can cause problems (just like linking two different
    cells of the same excel spreadsheets to one part).
    I try to stick to only one derived component per part.


    "Kent Keller" schreef in bericht
    news:798E9B01A6DD5841965F33B5E661F5B8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > Teun
    >
    > I posted a similar solution on 09/21 but the point is valid that it should
    be able to do
    > minimum solution both directions.
    >
    > --
    > Kent
    > Assistant Moderator
    > Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program
    >
    >
    > "Teun Ham" wrote in message
    > news:650A49868D409BB401E86C2F2368BBDC@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > I have placed an example in IVCF
    > >
    > > "Teun Ham" schreef in bericht
    > > news:1B79D27A2D9590B7E1986716D0414BE8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > Try this:
    > > >
    > > > 1) Start new part (middlepipe.ipt)
    > > > 2) Derive Master.ipt
    > > > 3) Extrude sketch2 as a surface (both outer pipes)
    > > > 4) Extrude sketch1 to pipe on left (surface), using minimum solution
    > > > 5) Extrude sketch1 again to pipe on right (surface), using minimum
    > > solution
    >
    >
    Please use plain text.