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*Genova, Jon
That's twisted, man..
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11-15-2002 04:24 AM
Yea, that's the new one they're using these days. In my day, the
saying was "That's cool".
What's not cool is my attempt to create a loft between two concave
sections and the outcome is a twist or an added facet where there
should only be a smooth transition. I've checked the sketches and they
are closed loops, fully constrained and inventor says they are happy
(no +). I've uploaded the file loloft.zip to the CF area. Can someone
take a look at this file. See the engineer's notebook in the file for
more comments.
Thanks,
-Jon G.
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Jon Genova
Senior Mechanical Design Engineer
BioServe Space Technologies
A NASA Commercial Space Center (CSC)
genovaj@stripe.colorado.edu
Bioserve URL http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/BioServe/
Personal URL http://stripe.Colorado.EDU/~genovaj/
saying was "That's cool".
What's not cool is my attempt to create a loft between two concave
sections and the outcome is a twist or an added facet where there
should only be a smooth transition. I've checked the sketches and they
are closed loops, fully constrained and inventor says they are happy
(no +). I've uploaded the file loloft.zip to the CF area. Can someone
take a look at this file. See the engineer's notebook in the file for
more comments.
Thanks,
-Jon G.
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Jon Genova
Senior Mechanical Design Engineer
BioServe Space Technologies
A NASA Commercial Space Center (CSC)
genovaj@stripe.colorado.edu
Bioserve URL http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/BioServe/
Personal URL http://stripe.Colorado.EDU/~genovaj/
*Allen, Albert
Re: That's twisted, man..
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11-15-2002 04:59 AM in reply to:
*Genova, Jon
Point Mapping should fix it.
"Jon Genova" wrote in message
news:3DD557E4.128749D9@stripe.colorado.edu...
>
> Yea, that's the new one they're using these days. In my day, the
> saying was "That's cool".
>
> What's not cool is my attempt to create a loft between two concave
> sections and the outcome is a twist or an added facet where there
> should only be a smooth transition. I've checked the sketches and they
> are closed loops, fully constrained and inventor says they are happy
> (no +). I've uploaded the file loloft.zip to the CF area. Can someone
> take a look at this file. See the engineer's notebook in the file for
> more comments.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Jon G.
>
> --
> |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||
>
> Jon Genova
> Senior Mechanical Design Engineer
> BioServe Space Technologies
>
> A NASA Commercial Space Center (CSC)
>
> genovaj@stripe.colorado.edu
> Bioserve URL http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/BioServe/
> Personal URL http://stripe.Colorado.EDU/~genovaj/
"Jon Genova"
news:3DD557E4.128749D9@stripe.colorado.edu...
>
> Yea, that's the new one they're using these days. In my day, the
> saying was "That's cool".
>
> What's not cool is my attempt to create a loft between two concave
> sections and the outcome is a twist or an added facet where there
> should only be a smooth transition. I've checked the sketches and they
> are closed loops, fully constrained and inventor says they are happy
> (no +). I've uploaded the file loloft.zip to the CF area. Can someone
> take a look at this file. See the engineer's notebook in the file for
> more comments.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Jon G.
>
> --
> ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>
> Jon Genova
> Senior Mechanical Design Engineer
> BioServe Space Technologies
>
> A NASA Commercial Space Center (CSC)
>
> genovaj@stripe.colorado.edu
> Bioserve URL http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/BioServe/
> Personal URL http://stripe.Colorado.EDU/~genovaj/
*Yeandle, Laurence
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11-15-2002 05:26 AM in reply to:
*Genova, Jon
See CF under yours, you need to add rails, all this stuff is new to me I
just fiddled with your model . Some one will post a better solution. Rails
stop the loft twisting, the best way to make em though I not sure.
--
Laurence,
Power is nothing without Control
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"Jon Genova" wrote in message
news:3DD557E4.128749D9@stripe.colorado.edu...
>
> Yea, that's the new one they're using these days. In my day, the
> saying was "That's cool".
>
> What's not cool is my attempt to create a loft between two concave
> sections and the outcome is a twist or an added facet where there
> should only be a smooth transition. I've checked the sketches and they
> are closed loops, fully constrained and inventor says they are happy
> (no +). I've uploaded the file loloft.zip to the CF area. Can someone
> take a look at this file. See the engineer's notebook in the file for
> more comments.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Jon G.
>
> --
> |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||
>
> Jon Genova
> Senior Mechanical Design Engineer
> BioServe Space Technologies
>
> A NASA Commercial Space Center (CSC)
>
> genovaj@stripe.colorado.edu
> Bioserve URL http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/BioServe/
> Personal URL http://stripe.Colorado.EDU/~genovaj/
just fiddled with your model . Some one will post a better solution. Rails
stop the loft twisting, the best way to make em though I not sure.
--
Laurence,
Power is nothing without Control
---
"Jon Genova"
news:3DD557E4.128749D9@stripe.colorado.edu...
>
> Yea, that's the new one they're using these days. In my day, the
> saying was "That's cool".
>
> What's not cool is my attempt to create a loft between two concave
> sections and the outcome is a twist or an added facet where there
> should only be a smooth transition. I've checked the sketches and they
> are closed loops, fully constrained and inventor says they are happy
> (no +). I've uploaded the file loloft.zip to the CF area. Can someone
> take a look at this file. See the engineer's notebook in the file for
> more comments.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Jon G.
>
> --
> ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>
> Jon Genova
> Senior Mechanical Design Engineer
> BioServe Space Technologies
>
> A NASA Commercial Space Center (CSC)
>
> genovaj@stripe.colorado.edu
> Bioserve URL http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/BioServe/
> Personal URL http://stripe.Colorado.EDU/~genovaj/
*Howard, Jeff
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11-15-2002 06:32 AM in reply to:
*Genova, Jon
Hi, Jon.
I'd use point mapping instead of rails to correct your problem. Rails will
"force" the shape and point mapping will correct the twisted surfaces while
still allowing a relaxed progression between profiles. I'm not that familiar
with the procedure, but I've found it easiest to clear the Auto checkbox,
delete all the existing point sets (select and press) then go back and
add mapping sets. Pay attention to the values so you are sure you've hit the
end of the curve (think you should get a green dot on vertex, but it's hard
for me to tell).
I don't know what your intentions are, but have posted another method in CF.
If you don't need the specific shape at Sketch2, I'd just loft between the
extrusion and Sketch1 with a tangent wt of .1 or .2 on the Edges profile. You
might try playing with it and see how close to the desired shape you get.
Jeff
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"Jon Genova" wrote in message
news:3DD557E4.128749D9@stripe.colorado.edu...
Yea, that's the new one they're using these days. In my day, the
saying was "That's cool".
What's not cool is my attempt to create a loft between two concave
sections and the outcome is a twist or an added facet where there
should only be a smooth transition. I've checked the sketches and they
are closed loops, fully constrained and inventor says they are happy
(no +). I've uploaded the file loloft.zip to the CF area. Can someone
take a look at this file. See the engineer's notebook in the file for
more comments.
Thanks,
-Jon G.
--
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Jon Genova
Senior Mechanical Design Engineer
BioServe Space Technologies
A NASA Commercial Space Center (CSC)
genovaj@stripe.colorado.edu
Bioserve URL http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/BioServe/
Personal URL http://stripe.Colorado.EDU/~genovaj/
I'd use point mapping instead of rails to correct your problem. Rails will
"force" the shape and point mapping will correct the twisted surfaces while
still allowing a relaxed progression between profiles. I'm not that familiar
with the procedure, but I've found it easiest to clear the Auto checkbox,
delete all the existing point sets (select and press
add mapping sets. Pay attention to the values so you are sure you've hit the
end of the curve (think you should get a green dot on vertex, but it's hard
for me to tell).
I don't know what your intentions are, but have posted another method in CF.
If you don't need the specific shape at Sketch2, I'd just loft between the
extrusion and Sketch1 with a tangent wt of .1 or .2 on the Edges profile. You
might try playing with it and see how close to the desired shape you get.
Jeff
====================
"Jon Genova"
news:3DD557E4.128749D9@stripe.colorado.edu...
Yea, that's the new one they're using these days. In my day, the
saying was "That's cool".
What's not cool is my attempt to create a loft between two concave
sections and the outcome is a twist or an added facet where there
should only be a smooth transition. I've checked the sketches and they
are closed loops, fully constrained and inventor says they are happy
(no +). I've uploaded the file loloft.zip to the CF area. Can someone
take a look at this file. See the engineer's notebook in the file for
more comments.
Thanks,
-Jon G.
--
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Jon Genova
Senior Mechanical Design Engineer
BioServe Space Technologies
A NASA Commercial Space Center (CSC)
genovaj@stripe.colorado.edu
Bioserve URL http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/BioServe/
Personal URL http://stripe.Colorado.EDU/~genovaj/
*Genova, Jon
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11-15-2002 08:02 AM in reply to:
*Genova, Jon
Good information. I'll check out the posted files this weekend.
Thank you for your time, gentlemen.
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Jon Genova
Senior Mechanical Design Engineer
BioServe Space Technologies
A NASA Commercial Space Center (CSC)
genovaj@stripe.colorado.edu
Bioserve URL http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/BioServe/
Personal URL http://stripe.Colorado.EDU/~genovaj/
Thank you for your time, gentlemen.
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Jon Genova
Senior Mechanical Design Engineer
BioServe Space Technologies
A NASA Commercial Space Center (CSC)
genovaj@stripe.colorado.edu
Bioserve URL http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/BioServe/
Personal URL http://stripe.Colorado.EDU/~genovaj/
