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    *Sam

    Speeding up Inventor

    49 Views, 11 Replies
    12-16-2002 08:13 AM
    I would like to know if there are any tips to improving the speed of
    Inventor.
    Especially the IDW files.

    I noticed that when the model changes , the IDW takes forever to update.
    Especially when it contains dimensions and centerlines.
    Pink dimensions...

    Does adaptivity usage slow it down?, using fasteners?, Iparts? does
    suppressing unresolved constraints work?


    Thanks
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    *Dotson, Sean

    Re: Speeding up Inventor

    12-16-2002 09:01 PM in reply to: *Sam
    If you have a lot of patterns, coils, complex lofts etc. That will slow it
    down. If you have 1000s of fasteners it could be a culprit also.

    How about you list your system specs so we can rule out (or in) hardware
    first...

    --
    Sean Dotson, PE
    http://www.sdotson.com
    Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
    http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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    "Sam" wrote in message
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    > I would like to know if there are any tips to improving the speed of
    > Inventor.
    > Especially the IDW files.
    >
    > I noticed that when the model changes , the IDW takes forever to update.
    > Especially when it contains dimensions and centerlines.
    > Pink dimensions...
    >
    > Does adaptivity usage slow it down?, using fasteners?, Iparts? does
    > suppressing unresolved constraints work?
    >
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    >
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    *Sam

    Re:

    12-16-2002 09:34 PM in reply to: *Sam
    System Specs

    P1.7Ghz
    1 Gb Ram
    Fire GL2 Video
    7200rpm HD
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    Re: Speeding up Inventor

    12-16-2002 10:34 PM in reply to: *Sam
    Can you tell us more about your models? Molded parts, sheetmetal, machined? Are arrays used a lot? Are the same pieces used over and over or are you assemblies lots of different parts? - Rich Thomas
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    *Sam

    Re:

    12-16-2002 11:58 PM in reply to: *Sam
    Assembly drawings are very simple consisting of 20-30 parts.
    Mainly weldments (but drawn as single parts)
    Jigs a fixturing type parts.

    Workpieces are imported as surface files and thickened where possible.
    IDW files contain 3 or 4 basic views with 3 or 4 section views with hatching
    turned on
    and a mixture of visible and invisible parts for eac of the views.
    Work references are enabled.

    Model changes are frequently made by workstations using different
    operating systems (XP and W2K)

    We are finding that as views resize the dimensions are not attached to the
    geometry
    and most of the time the IDW has to be deleted and remade or takes about 20
    minutes to open
    This seems to have something to do with it.

    None of the models have unresolved constraints.
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    Re:

    12-17-2002 12:04 AM in reply to: *Sam
    Do the files reside on a server and if so are you on a 100mbit network connection?
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    *Sam

    Re:

    12-17-2002 12:27 AM in reply to: *Sam
    Yes they are on a server
    We use a Semi Isolated enviroment and have a 100Base network
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    Re:

    12-17-2002 12:34 AM in reply to: *Sam
    From what you have indicated it sounds like Inventor should scream. The drawing issues shouldn't be occuring though. Do these parts have large arrays? Some of our parts have vent holes in them with thousands of holes which will make Inventor burn the pixels out of your monitor in the shape of an hour glass.
    The only other thing I can think of is your network. While you may have a 100mbit connection does it truly work that fast. We have had problems with the 3Com 3C905B-TX chipsets in our Dell computers when hooking up to some Cisco switches. They report 100mbit but if you copy a large file around you will find less than 1mbit xfer rate.

    Rich Thomas
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    *Howard, Jeff

    Re:

    12-17-2002 01:30 AM in reply to: *Sam
    I'd suspect the imported surfaces (or solid entities created from them) as
    being a major factor in graphics performance and dwg view generation time,
    especially if the surfaces aren't of geometric primitive shapes. A single
    complex surface can have more impact on performance than hundreds of prismatic
    parts. You may be able to isolate the worst causes by turning off visibility
    or disabling them in model and drawing modes.

    I've also noticed on occasion that dwg view dimensions don't stick well to
    some complex surface parts. Haven't really looked into it but I've had the
    passing thought that there may be very slight differences it the way edges are
    generated for the views (from one regen to the next) that cause them to become
    orphaned.

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    "Sam" wrote in message
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    Assembly drawings are very simple consisting of 20-30 parts.
    Mainly weldments (but drawn as single parts)
    Jigs a fixturing type parts.

    Workpieces are imported as surface files and thickened where possible.
    IDW files contain 3 or 4 basic views with 3 or 4 section views with hatching
    turned on
    and a mixture of visible and invisible parts for eac of the views.
    Work references are enabled.

    Model changes are frequently made by workstations using different
    operating systems (XP and W2K)

    We are finding that as views resize the dimensions are not attached to the
    geometry
    and most of the time the IDW has to be deleted and remade or takes about 20
    minutes to open
    This seems to have something to do with it.

    None of the models have unresolved constraints.
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    Distinguished Contributor
    Posts: 2,068
    Registered: ‎12-10-2003

    Re:

    12-17-2002 01:38 AM in reply to: *Sam
    Very good point. A corrupt body can cause issues too.

    Makes me wonder what a body sanity check would report. Perhaps an ACIS out and open into MDT then performing an amsanitycheck on all the imported parts would find a corrupt body.

    Rich Thomas
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