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*joe
Re: Running Autoedesk Inventor on linux?
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01-26-2009 07:21 AM in reply to:
JOlivier
for myself, it would be just the learning experience.
After reading about others setting up VM's (which I've done before for
different reasons) in order to attempt to get a decent running Inventor
install and the problems they encountered I decided not to pursue
that. Even if you do get it running in a VM, the graphics limitation
as it is right now prevents me from seeking this solution any further.
Sure, I could model a part and put together a simple, limited qty assy
in Inventor thru a VM (which would still require a fully licensed copy
of some flavor of MS OS, no $$$ savings there!) but why would I bother
setting up all of that just for limited performance?
Just like you stated Dennis, it's too much of a hassle to get all of
that going, just to find Inventor runs like it's on a P2 500 Mhz, etc,
etc.
I think the Linux folks (small number of the CAD + linux users
anyway) just want Adesk to consider a linux port of their software, at
least for just basic AutoCAD and Inventor.
I'm not holding my breath however!
After reading about others setting up VM's (which I've done before for
different reasons) in order to attempt to get a decent running Inventor
install and the problems they encountered I decided not to pursue
that. Even if you do get it running in a VM, the graphics limitation
as it is right now prevents me from seeking this solution any further.
Sure, I could model a part and put together a simple, limited qty assy
in Inventor thru a VM (which would still require a fully licensed copy
of some flavor of MS OS, no $$$ savings there!) but why would I bother
setting up all of that just for limited performance?
Just like you stated Dennis, it's too much of a hassle to get all of
that going, just to find Inventor runs like it's on a P2 500 Mhz, etc,
etc.
I think the Linux folks (small number of the CAD + linux users
anyway) just want Adesk to consider a linux port of their software, at
least for just basic AutoCAD and Inventor.
I'm not holding my breath however!
Re: Running Autoedesk Inventor on linux?
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01-26-2009 07:40 AM in reply to:
JOlivier
> think the Linux folks (small number of the CAD + linux users
anyway) just want Adesk to consider a linux port of their software, at
least for just basic AutoCAD and Inventor.
How much of a premium would you be willing to pay for a Linux OS (or Mac OS while we are on the queastion) certified AutoCAD or Inventor?
How many other users do you estimate would be willing to pay this premium?
How much to you estimate it would cost Autodesk to develop versions certified to run on these OSs?
When the numbers look attractive I predict you will see Autodesk software certified to run on these OSs.
anyway) just want Adesk to consider a linux port of their software, at
least for just basic AutoCAD and Inventor.
How much of a premium would you be willing to pay for a Linux OS (or Mac OS while we are on the queastion) certified AutoCAD or Inventor?
How many other users do you estimate would be willing to pay this premium?
How much to you estimate it would cost Autodesk to develop versions certified to run on these OSs?
When the numbers look attractive I predict you will see Autodesk software certified to run on these OSs.
Please mark this response as "Accept as Solution" if it answers your question.
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*Dennis Jeffrey
Re: Running Autoedesk Inventor on linux?
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01-26-2009 08:15 AM in reply to:
JOlivier
Not going to happen in today's world. Windows applications lile SW, IV and
others are basically add-ins running on explorer... using the Windows
toolbox.
Windows NT and above has it's parentage in Unix....
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others are basically add-ins running on explorer... using the Windows
toolbox.
Windows NT and above has it's parentage in Unix....
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*joe
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01-26-2009 08:29 AM in reply to:
JOlivier
point taken JD.
I wouldn't consider paying $ for a Linux OS, just for the software that
runs on it. Others may feel the need to purchase the OS for support
reasons however, which would make sense for companies to do
so if they were going down that path.
And I can see where it would not be in Adesk's best interest to produce
software for a very small market of users.
http://brlcad.org/
seems hopeful, but the learning curve looks rough!
Come to think of it, the learning curve for someone migrating from a MS
OS to a Linux OS might seem daunting to some as well! Not to mention
the costs involved...
I wouldn't consider paying $ for a Linux OS, just for the software that
runs on it. Others may feel the need to purchase the OS for support
reasons however, which would make sense for companies to do
so if they were going down that path.
And I can see where it would not be in Adesk's best interest to produce
software for a very small market of users.
http://brlcad.org/
seems hopeful, but the learning curve looks rough!
Come to think of it, the learning curve for someone migrating from a MS
OS to a Linux OS might seem daunting to some as well! Not to mention
the costs involved...
*MarcoA
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01-27-2009 05:37 AM in reply to:
JOlivier
killall-9 ha scritto:
> I've run inventor on Slackware Linux through Vmware server. It ran fine.
> I wasnt working on complex assemblies though, so I'm not sure about the
> graphics.
Running Inventor on Windows that runs in a virtual machine (no matter if
the virtual machine runs into Linux or other OS) is NOT equal to run
Inventor on Linux.
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> I've run inventor on Slackware Linux through Vmware server. It ran fine.
> I wasnt working on complex assemblies though, so I'm not sure about the
> graphics.
Running Inventor on Windows that runs in a virtual machine (no matter if
the virtual machine runs into Linux or other OS) is NOT equal to run
Inventor on Linux.
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Pentium 4 3 GHz - 2 GB RAM
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01-27-2009 07:26 AM in reply to:
JOlivier
On the other side of the coin, what about the Blender and Gimp projects? Both are very good software.
The biggest problem with multiple OS software is the GUI, but now we have QT and WX. Both are very good interfaces that provide a native look and feel. .Net is out, but there are very good C++ standard libraries and the Boost libs provide alot of functionality. I don't know about the modelling kernals, but I would hope these weren't dependant on a Windows library.
As far as the ROI, just capturing the Linux market may not be enough, but if it is designed for multiplatform then it could also capture the Mac market. This may provide incentive since alot of the designer artsy-fartsy crowd are die-hard Mac lovers.
Of course with all the details in producing a product like IV, it would probably not be worth the hassle. It would be cool if there was an Inventor Lite version for Linux and Mac. Maybe just the Part and Assembly environments?
Nevermind, forget Linux, just give us folders in the assembly browser!!! ;-)
The biggest problem with multiple OS software is the GUI, but now we have QT and WX. Both are very good interfaces that provide a native look and feel. .Net is out, but there are very good C++ standard libraries and the Boost libs provide alot of functionality. I don't know about the modelling kernals, but I would hope these weren't dependant on a Windows library.
As far as the ROI, just capturing the Linux market may not be enough, but if it is designed for multiplatform then it could also capture the Mac market. This may provide incentive since alot of the designer artsy-fartsy crowd are die-hard Mac lovers.
Of course with all the details in producing a product like IV, it would probably not be worth the hassle. It would be cool if there was an Inventor Lite version for Linux and Mac. Maybe just the Part and Assembly environments?
Nevermind, forget Linux, just give us folders in the assembly browser!!! ;-)
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02-10-2009 10:53 PM in reply to:
JOlivier
Marco, i'm with you there. I'm happy on Linux (For its stability, my productivity, the availablility of applications, and from an ethical standpoint.) but i still need an Inventor-like option. Is there an alternative?
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02-11-2009 02:08 AM in reply to:
JOlivier
JOlivier ha scritto:
>
Marco, I'm with you there. I'm happy on Linux (For its stability, my
productivity, the availability of applications, and from an ethical
standpoint.) but I still need an Inventor-like option. Is there an
alternative?
Well... I'm not sure that this place is the right place to speak about
that... (-;
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NVIDIA Quadro 330 6.14.10.9136 Edited by: Discussion_Admin on Feb 11, 2009 10:10 AM
>
Marco, I'm with you there. I'm happy on Linux (For its stability, my
productivity, the availability of applications, and from an ethical
standpoint.) but I still need an Inventor-like option. Is there an
alternative?
Well... I'm not sure that this place is the right place to speak about
that... (-;
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AIS 11 SP4
Pentium 4 3 GHz - 2 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro 330 6.14.10.9136 Edited by: Discussion_Admin on Feb 11, 2009 10:10 AM
Re: Running Autoedesk Inventor on linux?
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10-24-2012 08:09 PM in reply to:
JOlivier
Why not?
Its a better OS, more stable. And is more efficient at indexing harddrives. Since Inventor uses a lot of Virtual Memory, that alone would be a significant benefit to using Linux.
Surely compiling the program for a Linux installation is not beyond Autodesk?
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10-25-2012 04:21 PM in reply to:
petermilani
petermilani wrote:Why not?
How much of a premium would you be willing to pay for a Linux OS (or Mac OS while we are on the queastion) certified AutoCAD or Inventor?
How many other users do you estimate would be willing to pay this premium?
How much to you estimate it would cost Autodesk to develop versions certified to run on these OSs?
When the numbers look attractive I predict you will see Autodesk software certified to run on these OSs
Please mark this response as "Accept as Solution" if it answers your question.
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Autodesk Inventor 2013 Certified Professional
Autodesk AutoCAD 2013 Certified Professional
Certified SolidWorks Professional
Inventor Professional 2013 SP 1.1 Edu 64-bit
GeForce GTX 560M i7-2670QM @ 2.2GHz 8GB RAM
http://home.pct.edu/~jmather/content/DSG322/inventor_surface_tutorials.htm
http://www.autodesk.com/edcommunity
Still waiting for -Draft option on any Rib feature.
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Autodesk Inventor 2013 Certified Professional
Autodesk AutoCAD 2013 Certified Professional
Certified SolidWorks Professional
Inventor Professional 2013 SP 1.1 Edu 64-bit
GeForce GTX 560M i7-2670QM @ 2.2GHz 8GB RAM
http://home.pct.edu/~jmather/content/DSG322/inventor_surface_tutorials.htm
http://www.autodesk.com/edcommunity
Still waiting for -Draft option on any Rib feature.



