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    *Dotson, Sean

    Request for Project Files

    55 Views, 7 Replies
    12-10-2002 08:58 PM
    I tried this a few years ago but the user base was much smaller and I'm not
    sure very many people understood projects back then. Well the user base and
    software has grown a lot since then so let's try again....

    I hear from a lot of users that the main thing missing form most project
    documentation is real life examples. We've all shared parts of our project
    structure at one time or another but I'd like to ask everyone to post (or
    email me) their project files with a brief description of what you do (e.g.
    custom one-of-0a-kind machines or 1000 variations of the same widget) and
    why you structured the project the way you did.

    For example:

    ______________________________________
    [Project Defaults]
    MultiUser=None
    UseRelative=TRUE
    ThirdParty=FALSE
    v=0

    [Included Path File]

    [Workgroup Search Paths]
    Assy=.\Workgroup\Assembly
    Details=.\Workgroup\Details
    Parts=.\Workgroup\Parts
    Purchase=.\Workgroup\Purchase
    PDF=.\Workgroup\PDF
    AutoCAD2D=.\Workgroup\AutoCad2D
    RefData=.\Workgroup\Ref Data

    [Library Search Paths]
    Iparts=i:\iparts6
    _Iparts=.\Workgroup\iPartChildren

    This is my project files structure used for my custom one-up machines. I
    break down the Workgroup paths as I like to have one touch access to the
    folders from the hyperlinked pane on the left. I divide files by file type
    with further subdividing part files into custom machined parts and purchased
    parts. The RefData folder is where I keep linked spreadsheets, decals and
    other linked objects. I keep ipart children on a project specific basis as
    I feel it makes the project more portable.
    __________________________________________

    That's it. I wanted to collect them all the put them together in a document
    so that new users (heck even experienced users) could take a look and maybe
    gain some insight as to how people structure their projects. If someone
    builds similar designs to that of your they could pick up some suggestions
    on how to structure their projects.

    For those of you who don't know you can view your project (.ipj) files in
    notepad and then cut and paste into here or an email. Feel free to change
    the project names or fold names if you want to protect your designs'
    privacy.

    Thanks,
    --
    Sean Dotson, PE
    http://www.sdotson.com
    Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
    http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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    Re: Request for Project Files

    12-10-2002 09:12 PM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
    As a business I have seperate projects for each IV and Autocad job. Sending you each individual ipj would not seem benificial. Each just points to the location to where the files for that particular file reside. Library parts are on common paths for every project.

    As a on-sight subcontractor I can send you how the cleint sets up there project files and there file structure. Do you need the whys relating to their ISO proceedures?
    Please use plain text.
    *Dotson, Sean

    Re:

    12-10-2002 09:16 PM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
    Just a brief description of the logic behind it as
    I have given in the example above.  Just select one that seems the most
    descriptive.  Some people will just have a workspace and that's it (and
    sometimes that all you need).

     

    I'm just trying to collect them so people can have
    real world examples for which they keep screaming..

    --

    Sean Dotson, PE

    href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

    Check the Inventor
    FAQ for most common questions

    href="http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html">http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html

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    As
    a business I have seperate projects for each IV and Autocad job. Sending you
    each individual ipj would not seem benificial. Each just points to the
    location to where the files for that particular file reside. Library parts are
    on common paths for every project.

    As a on-sight subcontractor I can send you how the cleint sets up there
    project files and there file structure. Do you need the whys relating to their
    ISO proceedures?

    Please use plain text.
    *Hinterhoeller, Richard

    Re: Request for Project Files

    12-10-2002 09:42 PM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
    Sean:

    Attached please find the ipj's of my current project. Some of the names
    have been changed to protect the privacy of the individuals.

    ______________________________________
    1206 Active Project.ipj

    [Project Defaults]
    MultiUser=FALSE
    UseRelative=FALSE

    [Included Path File]
    Included Pathfile=c:\Projects\Inventor Path Files\Standard.ipj

    [Workspace]
    Workspace=c:\Projects\CD 5\1206 Active Project

    [Local Search Paths]
    ;1130=c:\Projects\CD 5\1130 Past Project 1
    1177=c:\Projects\CD 4\1177 Past Project 2
    1180=c:\Projects\CD 3\1180 Past Project 3
    ;1191=C:\Projects\CD 3\1191 Past Project 4
    1193=C:\Projects\CD 5\1193 Past Project 5
    1204=C:\Projects\CD 5\1204 Past Project 6
    1202=C:\Projects\CD 5\1202 Past Project 7
    ______________________________________

    Explanation:

    Obviously 1206 is my current project. It resides in the path
    c:\Projects\CD 5\. The \CD 5\ folder is for back-up purposes. Once
    folder CD 5 gets too full (this week?) I'll add another CD folder to
    Projects.

    Commonly used paths go in the included Path File 'Standard.ipj', listed
    and described below.

    Whenever possible I re-use existing components from similar projects. I
    consider having the same file in two locations to be bad practice, so
    any related paths are listed under Local Search Paths. If, as it turns
    out, I no longer need one of these paths, hide it using the ;, but I
    leave it in the ipj just in case I change my mind.

    ______________________________________
    [Project Defaults]
    MultiUser=FALSE
    UseRelative=FALSE

    [Included Path File]

    [Local Search Paths]
    TemplatePath=c:\Library\Inventor\R6 Templates
    SteelPath=c:\Library\Inventor\R6 Templates\Steel
    iTest=C:\Library\iTest
    iFastener=C:\Library\iFastener
    iParts=C:\Library\iParts
    ______________________________________

    I don't really need any of the paths in Standard.ipj to function.

    However, my templates need occasional tweaking, I'm always adding sizes
    of steel (I know, I should be using Steel Creator) to my SteelPath and
    Inventor will be long gone before I've finished creating iParts and
    iFasteners. iTest is where I crash & burn with my iPart development
    until the files are ready for prime time.

    For the aforementioned reasons, I like to keep these paths handy.

    Richard


    Sean Dotson wrote:
    > I tried this a few years ago but the user base was much smaller and I'm not
    > sure very many people understood projects back then. Well the user base and
    > software has grown a lot since then so let's try again....
    >
    > I hear from a lot of users that the main thing missing form most project
    > documentation is real life examples. We've all shared parts of our project
    > structure at one time or another but I'd like to ask everyone to post (or
    > email me) their project files with a brief description of what you do (e.g.
    > custom one-of-0a-kind machines or 1000 variations of the same widget) and
    > why you structured the project the way you did.
    >
    > For example:
    >
    > ______________________________________
    > [Project Defaults]
    > MultiUser=None
    > UseRelative=TRUE
    > ThirdParty=FALSE
    > v=0
    >
    > [Included Path File]
    >
    > [Workgroup Search Paths]
    > Assy=.\Workgroup\Assembly
    > Details=.\Workgroup\Details
    > Parts=.\Workgroup\Parts
    > Purchase=.\Workgroup\Purchase
    > PDF=.\Workgroup\PDF
    > AutoCAD2D=.\Workgroup\AutoCad2D
    > RefData=.\Workgroup\Ref Data
    >
    > [Library Search Paths]
    > Iparts=i:\iparts6
    > _Iparts=.\Workgroup\iPartChildren
    >
    > This is my project files structure used for my custom one-up machines. I
    > break down the Workgroup paths as I like to have one touch access to the
    > folders from the hyperlinked pane on the left. I divide files by file type
    > with further subdividing part files into custom machined parts and purchased
    > parts. The RefData folder is where I keep linked spreadsheets, decals and
    > other linked objects. I keep ipart children on a project specific basis as
    > I feel it makes the project more portable.
    > __________________________________________
    >
    > That's it. I wanted to collect them all the put them together in a document
    > so that new users (heck even experienced users) could take a look and maybe
    > gain some insight as to how people structure their projects. If someone
    > builds similar designs to that of your they could pick up some suggestions
    > on how to structure their projects.
    >
    > For those of you who don't know you can view your project (.ipj) files in
    > notepad and then cut and paste into here or an email. Feel free to change
    > the project names or fold names if you want to protect your designs'
    > privacy.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > --
    > Sean Dotson, PE
    > http://www.sdotson.com
    > Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
    > http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html
    > -----------------------------------------
    >
    >
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    Posts: 2,068
    Registered: ‎12-10-2003

    Re: Request for Project Files

    12-11-2002 12:18 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
    We do things a little bit differently. We have assemblies between 50 and thousands of pieces. In the past we would have up to 8 people working on a single project but these days and the state of the Telecom industry we only have 8 designers stateside so we pretty much go at it alone on our projects. Each project has a directory on a network drive which we set as our workspace. We then have a library in another location of non-proprietary components (connectors, iPart fasteners and PEMs etc). Only iParts go in a library path though (because of the _ to specify member locations), all our other library parts are listed as a workgroup search path. We have 1 file for everyone that lists these and is used as in included project file for the main one that is specific to each project. Why not use library search paths? Because the users were too frustrated with the assembly wanting to be resolved everytime a file was created then moved to the library later. Why not create them in the library? Because I might model and try to fit 10 connectors before I ever find one that really fits. I don't want all 10 in the library because they aren't all going to be assigned one of our part numbers and have an item master put up on them. So our project file has the main directory as the workspace, and included file for library stuff that is really a workgroup search path. Then to top it all off every directory under our workspace is specified as a local search path. Yes I know everybody says that is not necessary but I have proven many times that some presentation files won't load properly unless we do that. Finally if I reference files from some other project I put that directory in as a local search path - Rich Thomas
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    *Gwin, Hal

    Re: Request for Project Files

    12-11-2002 12:25 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
    Can we e-mail to you direct to save space and bandwidth on the newsgroup?

    --
    Hal Gwin
    Mechanical Designer
    Xenogen
    Please use plain text.
    *Dotson, Sean

    Re:

    12-11-2002 12:54 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
    Certainly...

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    Sean Dotson, PE
    http://www.sdotson.com
    Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
    http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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    "Hal Gwin" wrote in message
    news:4736ACE6BFA4B8EF354BE0DB3853DD33@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > Can we e-mail to you direct to save space and bandwidth on the newsgroup?
    >
    > --
    > Hal Gwin
    > Mechanical Designer
    > Xenogen
    >
    >
    Please use plain text.
    *Carr, Jimmy

    Re: Request for Project Files

    12-11-2002 10:37 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
    Screamer here :smileyhappy:
    Hey, your workflow is a LOT like mine. Just taking a look helps some. Let
    me think through this a bit and I will try to offer up a similar scenario
    that gives me problems from time to time. Dennis' rewrite is also good. I
    always set up .ipjs, but without exception, before the project is completed
    I have resolution problems. I end up with such a mix of file types I'm
    trying to track, and to top it off I usually have to pass it off to the
    other engineer for completion and she has her own way of seeing the world.
    We end up with a lot of folders for organizing the project and sometimes an
    assembly or part might be saved outside of this sub. Lots of times it comes
    down to the resolution of a file that is staring IV in the face and it won't
    open.

    Thanks for taking another stab at this Sean.

    "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
    news:28C11E6985AAE962E86A1DD4ACE1552C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > I tried this a few years ago but the user base was much smaller and I'm
    not

    > sure very many people understood projects back then. Well the user base
    and
    > software has grown a lot since then so let's try again....
    >
    > I hear from a lot of users that the main thing missing form most project
    > documentation is real life examples. We've all shared parts of our
    project
    > structure at one time or another but I'd like to ask everyone to post (or
    > email me) their project files with a brief description of what you do
    (e.g.
    > custom one-of-0a-kind machines or 1000 variations of the same widget) and
    > why you structured the project the way you did.
    >
    > For example:
    >
    > ______________________________________
    > [Project Defaults]
    > MultiUser=None
    > UseRelative=TRUE
    > ThirdParty=FALSE
    > v=0
    >
    > [Included Path File]
    >
    > [Workgroup Search Paths]
    > Assy=.\Workgroup\Assembly
    > Details=.\Workgroup\Details
    > Parts=.\Workgroup\Parts
    > Purchase=.\Workgroup\Purchase
    > PDF=.\Workgroup\PDF
    > AutoCAD2D=.\Workgroup\AutoCad2D
    > RefData=.\Workgroup\Ref Data
    >
    > [Library Search Paths]
    > Iparts=i:\iparts6
    > _Iparts=.\Workgroup\iPartChildren
    >
    > This is my project files structure used for my custom one-up machines. I
    > break down the Workgroup paths as I like to have one touch access to the
    > folders from the hyperlinked pane on the left. I divide files by file
    type
    > with further subdividing part files into custom machined parts and
    purchased
    > parts. The RefData folder is where I keep linked spreadsheets, decals and
    > other linked objects. I keep ipart children on a project specific basis
    as
    > I feel it makes the project more portable.
    > __________________________________________
    >
    > That's it. I wanted to collect them all the put them together in a
    document
    > so that new users (heck even experienced users) could take a look and
    maybe
    > gain some insight as to how people structure their projects. If someone
    > builds similar designs to that of your they could pick up some suggestions
    > on how to structure their projects.
    >
    > For those of you who don't know you can view your project (.ipj) files in
    > notepad and then cut and paste into here or an email. Feel free to change
    > the project names or fold names if you want to protect your designs'
    > privacy.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > --
    > Sean Dotson, PE
    > http://www.sdotson.com
    > Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
    > http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html
    > -----------------------------------------
    >
    >
    Please use plain text.