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    *Rasmussen, Ed

    R6 IDW overriding dimension reverts to original value

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    11-01-2002 06:45 AM
    I know that overriding the dimensions of geometry is not a good practice and
    I avoid doing it. That said, however, it sometimes is the most cost
    effective solution to a minor change. I have one part that needs to have
    one dimension changed from .074 to .080. If I try to change the feature in
    the model that drives this dimension, I get a cascade of feature problems.
    I do not want to take time at this stage to resolve all of those problems
    for the sake of changing this one dimension. I decide to make an exception
    and change the dimension manually. I go to tolerances and change the
    nominal value. Presto the drawing looks right. Almost done, but I forgot
    some minor cleanup another sheet of the same drawing. I do that work and
    then print the drawing. I happen to double check the first sheet and find
    that the .080 I entered and witnessed on screen earlier has now reverted to
    and printed as the original .074. Scary. Did I not change/override in the
    correct manner? If IV won't hold an override, it shouldn't accept it in the
    first place. What I saw happen was a dimension changing with no warning on
    a sheet that was not being altered, when the model was not being modified
    dimensionally. Sure it is all the more reason to avoid overriding a
    dimension, but man this is frightening. You don't expect to have to recheck
    things that have not been changed. I hope I did something wrong in the
    override, but it seemed to work as expected until..... Anyone know what is
    going on with this? Thanks.

    Ed R
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    *Jolley, Alfred C.

    Re: R6 IDW overriding dimension reverts to original value

    11-01-2002 07:15 AM in reply to: *Rasmussen, Ed
    I have something similarly but not so scary. I have a customer that wants a
    " in the dimensions to show inches. I have this in my dimstyle as a suffix.
    This requires me to edit the text in radiuses and diameters. I have to
    remove the ". I have found version 6 putting it back in. At first I thought
    is was a (edited) on my part but it has happened to many times. Had no
    problem in 5.3



    Al Jolley

    ACJ Enterprises, Inc.
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    *Jeffrey, Dennis

    Re: R6 IDW overriding dimension reverts to original value

    11-02-2002 02:49 AM in reply to: *Rasmussen, Ed
    I guess I would be concerned WHY the other features are failing before I put
    this part into my design.

    Dennis

    Ed Rasmussen wrote:

    > I know that overriding the dimensions of geometry is not a good practice and
    > I avoid doing it. That said, however, it sometimes is the most cost
    > effective solution to a minor change. I have one part that needs to have
    > one dimension changed from .074 to .080. If I try to change the feature in
    > the model that drives this dimension, I get a cascade of feature problems.
    > I do not want to take time at this stage to resolve all of those problems
    > for the sake of changing this one dimension. I decide to make an exception
    > and change the dimension manually. I go to tolerances and change the
    > nominal value. Presto the drawing looks right. Almost done, but I forgot
    > some minor cleanup another sheet of the same drawing. I do that work and
    > then print the drawing. I happen to double check the first sheet and find
    > that the .080 I entered and witnessed on screen earlier has now reverted to
    > and printed as the original .074. Scary. Did I not change/override in the
    > correct manner? If IV won't hold an override, it shouldn't accept it in the
    > first place. What I saw happen was a dimension changing with no warning on
    > a sheet that was not being altered, when the model was not being modified
    > dimensionally. Sure it is all the more reason to avoid overriding a
    > dimension, but man this is frightening. You don't expect to have to recheck
    > things that have not been changed. I hope I did something wrong in the
    > override, but it seemed to work as expected until..... Anyone know what is
    > going on with this? Thanks.
    >
    > Ed R

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    Dennis Jeffrey
    CAD Associates - Fort Wayne
    Autodesk ASC
    (260-432-9695 x 221
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    *Rasmussen, Ed

    Re:

    11-03-2002 10:04 PM in reply to: *Rasmussen, Ed
    I stated earlier that over-riding dimensions is not good practice. I avoid
    it where reasonable. This specific incident is about the third time in
    1-1/2 years that I have over-ridden the dimension. The point is, if
    Inventor will allow dimensions to be over-ridden, they should not revert
    without notification. It would be better/safer if it were not allowed at
    all.

    Ed R


    "Dennis Jeffrey" wrote in message
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    > I guess I would be concerned WHY the other features are failing before I
    put
    > this part into my design.
    >
    > Dennis
    >
    > Ed Rasmussen wrote:
    >
    > > I know that overriding the dimensions of geometry is not a good practice
    and
    > > I avoid doing it. That said, however, it sometimes is the most cost
    > > effective solution to a minor change. I have one part that needs to
    have
    > > one dimension changed from .074 to .080. If I try to change the feature
    in
    > > the model that drives this dimension, I get a cascade of feature
    problems.
    > > I do not want to take time at this stage to resolve all of those
    problems
    > > for the sake of changing this one dimension. I decide to make an
    exception
    > > and change the dimension manually. I go to tolerances and change the
    > > nominal value. Presto the drawing looks right. Almost done, but I
    forgot
    > > some minor cleanup another sheet of the same drawing. I do that work
    and
    > > then print the drawing. I happen to double check the first sheet and
    find
    > > that the .080 I entered and witnessed on screen earlier has now reverted
    to
    > > and printed as the original .074. Scary. Did I not change/override in
    the
    > > correct manner? If IV won't hold an override, it shouldn't accept it in
    the
    > > first place. What I saw happen was a dimension changing with no warning
    on
    > > a sheet that was not being altered, when the model was not being
    modified
    > > dimensionally. Sure it is all the more reason to avoid overriding a
    > > dimension, but man this is frightening. You don't expect to have to
    recheck
    > > things that have not been changed. I hope I did something wrong in the
    > > override, but it seemed to work as expected until..... Anyone know
    what is
    > > going on with this? Thanks.
    > >
    > > Ed R
    >
    > --
    > Dennis Jeffrey
    > CAD Associates - Fort Wayne
    > Autodesk ASC
    > (260-432-9695 x 221
    >
    >
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