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    Re: Part Quantities

    01-30-2013 05:39 AM in reply to: mrattray

    Hi Mike,

    You didn't upset me at all. Honestly. We are all friends here. That's what I believe in firmly.

    Let's the OP to decide what he needs for his business. I am sure - we all have provided him with enough information to conceder the best possible rout to take.

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    Re: Part Quantities

    01-30-2013 05:39 AM in reply to: mrattray

    We may be working at the same shop, lol.  Each copy of our drawings also gets a stamp before it is released to the shop.  This stamp includes the job number and the quantity to be manufactured even though this information is suppose to be in the title block of the drawing already. 

     

    The icing on the cake is that our "B" sized drawings are on LEGAL size paper so drawing real estate is at a premium.  We've slowly been introducing actual B sized drawings into the shop but they haven't been happy about it even though it should make our drawings much more legible.  And yes the slighest change in drawing procedure/style causes major conflict with the shop floor.

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    Re: Part Quantities

    01-30-2013 05:47 AM in reply to: IgorMir

    The iLogic code is exactly what I was hoping to find.  I want a way to place the quantity on the drawing that happens more or less automatically and removes a potential human error.  It is much more likely that I will spot a wrong quantity if the actual assembly model doesn't have the correct number of occurances in it than I am to spot an incorrectly typed in number on the individual drawing.  So if the quantity shown on my part drawings is directly tied to the quanity that shows up on my assembly BoM then that should be one less chance for me to screw up.

     

    I haven't yet had a chance to play with the code to see if the cut and paste was getting some garbage characters since I just finished a "hurry up why don't you have this done yet" projects and am now working on the next "hurry up why don't you have this done yet" project.

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    rhasell
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    Re: Part Quantities

    01-30-2013 03:23 PM in reply to: SKinzel

    I have had quite a few instances where the client wants the part drawings split from the assembly drawings and the quantites need to be placed on each drawing sheet. In this case the part BOM QTY becomes a manual process, and mistakes do happen.

     

    The other instance where it is usefull is Laser cutting, each part needs a QTY attached to it, the only other way to get an accurate QTY is to place the GA off sheet.

     

    The next issue to be solved is the Sub-Assembly quantities, this is still a manual process, at least for me it is.

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    Re: Part Quantities

    01-31-2013 04:42 AM in reply to: rhasell

    rhasell wrote:
    The next issue to be solved is the Sub-Assembly quantities, this is still a manual process, at least for me it is.

    It doesn't have to be. What are you looking to do with your sub-assemblies?

    Mike (not Matt) Rattray

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    00ash00
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    Re: Part Quantities

    01-31-2013 01:05 PM in reply to: IgorMir

    Hi All,

     

    The iLogic code that I attached @ message 11 of this post will add a Qty to all parts and subassemblies, if you run the code from the top assembly. I copied the text file that I attached into a new run and it worked fine, I did see a message above that it wasn't working however as Mike stated coping code from these posts sometimes will copy incorrectly. My work place sounds to be tha same as you guys, everything was to be completed be yesterday and everytime i add extra things to the drawings they want more information. I have written a standalone program in VB.Net which will does our drawing to 90% complete all we do is open them and add any hole notes and move the radius dimentions that seams to move off the page. I processed 288 drawings in under 3 hrs and i still got the same old hurry up bull ****,  I will release my AutoDrafter in the App store shortly just got to remove company info from the templates that it uses.

     

    Ash

     

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    Re: Part Quantities

    01-31-2013 03:40 PM in reply to: mrattray

    Hi Mike

     

    Thanks for the response, I was wondering if this should branch off to a new thread, but Ash appears to have to solved the issue already.

     

    Our business had a more architecural/structural feel to it.

    Starts with a GA/Marking plan which contains both BOM's (Structured for Labels (Custom balloon), and Parts Only for Official QTY's)

    Then each Sub assembly is detailed along with the individual parts.

     

    This is where it is a manual process,

    The Sub Assembly QTY is listed in the VIEW Label. (EG: 4 OFF REQUIRED etc)

    I place the Parts BOM for the sub assembly on the sheet, which has a Custom column for multiplication, so I manually type in 4 which in turn muliplies the QTY by 4, giving me the total QTY required to manufacture 4 Sub assemblies.

     

    I hope the above is understandable?

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    Re: Part Quantities

    02-21-2013 06:32 AM in reply to: SKinzel

    So I finally was able to try out the iLogic code.  There seems to be an issue that I'm not sure can be resolved.  My assemblies have a mixture of "regular" parts and parts from the Library.  Since Library files cannot be modified I get an error every time the script runs and it tries to add the Custom Property to the library files.

     

    In assemblies that don't have any library files it seems to work just fine.

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    Re: Part Quantities

    02-21-2013 07:13 AM in reply to: SKinzel

    SKinzel wrote:

    So I finally was able to try out the iLogic code.  There seems to be an issue that I'm not sure can be resolved.  My assemblies have a mixture of "regular" parts and parts from the Library.  Since Library files cannot be modified I get an error every time the script runs and it tries to add the Custom Property to the library files.

     

    In assemblies that don't have any library files it seems to work just fine.


    We're in the same boat here.  Library parts can't (and shouldn't), be modified.  I think the only way this would work is if the total quantiy number for each part/sub-assembly, was stored inside the top level assembly somehow.  This would also mean the parts & sub-assys wouldn't need updating.

    Bob

     

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    Re: Part Quantities

    02-21-2013 09:52 AM in reply to: bstewart

    I have a hard time getting my brain around needing to do this, but I'm in a bigger company with ERP and MRP capabilities.  We give them part/assembly drawings and a BOM, they figure out how many of anything to make from that.

     

    I understand that its completely different at a smaller company, but if you gave them a flattened BOM, couldn't they figure out how many of each part to make?

     

    Looks like you have the problem pretty well figured out, but sometimes the requirements are the problem.

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