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    *Serge

    Order in assembly

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    11-13-2002 03:06 AM
    Hi
    In the browser I try to drag a component to change the order in the assembly
    hierarchy, but it does not work!

    Why?

    On 5.3 release we could do this operation.

    Thanks.


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    Re: Order in assembly

    11-13-2002 03:10 AM in reply to: *Serge
    This ability has been turned off in R6 due to the addition of assy features. I don't know if SP1 addresses this or not but I do know that Adesk is trying to work it out so we have this ability again.

    MechMan
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    *Dotson, Sean

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    11-13-2002 03:28 AM in reply to: *Serge
    SP1 does not appear to address this.  I think
    this was more of a R7 goal (along with additional functionality) from what
    I understood...


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    I
    don't know if SP1 addresses this or not but I do know that Adesk is trying to
    work it out so we have this ability again.

    MechMan

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    *Autodesk\

    Re:

    11-13-2002 04:00 AM in reply to: *Serge
    This was not addressed in SP1 because it is not a
    "bug".

     

    As has already been discussed, the reasons I
    disabled this workaround to the "organization" problem may not be valid and
    simply adding it back may be the easiest thing to do in the short-term.
    Longer-range ideas for addressing organization within an assembly are also being
    considered.

     

        
    Gary R. Smith -
    Inventor Team
    Autodesk DSD - Manufacturing Product Design
    Portland,
    OR

     

     
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    *Dotson, Sean

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    11-13-2002 04:09 AM in reply to: *Serge
    Gary I think Mech (and I know I) knew it was not a
    bug.  We were part of the discussion before.  Sorry if we made it
    sound that way...


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    ...sleep is for the
    weak..
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    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    This was not addressed in SP1 because it is not a
    "bug".

     

    As has already been discussed, the reasons I
    disabled this workaround to the "organization" problem may not be valid and
    simply adding it back may be the easiest thing to do in the short-term.
    Longer-range ideas for addressing organization within an assembly are also
    being considered.

     

        
    Gary R. Smith -
    Inventor Team
    Autodesk DSD - Manufacturing Product Design
    Portland,
    OR

     

     
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    *Allen, Albert

    Re:

    11-13-2002 04:34 AM in reply to: *Serge
    bug..bug...where..where's a bug..I didn't see any
    bug........anyway I hate bugs especially the creepy crawly kind.


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    Gary I think Mech (and I know I) knew it was not
    a bug.  We were part of the discussion before.  Sorry if we made it
    sound that way...


    --
    Sean Dotson, PE

    href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

    ...sleep is for
    the weak..
    -----------------------------------------


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    This was not addressed in SP1 because it is not
    a "bug".

     

    As has already been discussed, the reasons I
    disabled this workaround to the "organization" problem may not be valid and
    simply adding it back may be the easiest thing to do in the short-term.
    Longer-range ideas for addressing organization within an assembly are also
    being considered.

     

        
    Gary R. Smith -
    Inventor Team
    Autodesk DSD - Manufacturing Product Design
    Portland,
    OR

     


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    11-13-2002 05:10 AM in reply to: *Serge
    Yes Gary, not trying to increase the "bug" count on you or anything. That's why I tried to mention that it was "turned off" instead of using the "b**" word.

    I do appreciate you letting us know ahead of time that SP1 does not turn it back on.

    MechMan
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    11-13-2002 05:15 AM in reply to: *Serge
    // Longer-range ideas for addressing organization within an assembly are also being considered. //

    Is it possible to make the part list order in drawings follow the order in the assembly browser? Also I would like to have complete control over the order of components. As it works now, sub assemblies always "float" to the top of the order. I'm trying to keep my drawing balloons in sync with an external data base and this behavior makes it almost impossible. Thanks.
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    11-13-2002 05:56 AM in reply to: *Serge
    I realize that the ability to drag things up and
    down, while adding nothing as far as "design intent" to the model, did provide a
    bit of organizational order to assemblies - via the browser view. My hope was
    that we'd get generic folder capabilities to satisfy the
    organizational need and my concern was that if we moved to a sequence
    dependent browser view in assemblies like we have in part, then a part's
    location in the browser could/would impact its interaction with assembly
    features before/after. I was also thinking about including an "end of
    assembly" node that behaved like the "end of part" node.

     

    Given how we have segregated assembly features - my
    reasons for disabling the up/down dragging seem to be invalid and painful in
    light of not getting the generic folder organization "tool".

     

    G
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    11-13-2002 06:26 AM in reply to: *Serge
    I understand your concern about making the assy browser sequence dependent. That does add a new issue to the mix. My &.02 worth is that ProE's assy environment is very sequence dependent and I hate it with a passion so please be careful as you go forward with your design. Having organizational/generic "folders" sounds cool. I'm all for the "End of Assembly" node. ProE also has that and I like it. While on the subject of "End of..." nodes, how about adding a drop down menu to it with a command that automatically sends the node to the bottom of the browser list so we don't have to do a long drag operation on complicated models?

    MechMan
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