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    *MacGillivray, Bob

    Interesting Article on 3D Model Viewing over the Web

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    11-05-2002 12:13 AM
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    *Dotson, Sean

    Re: Interesting Article on 3D Model Viewing over the Web

    11-05-2002 12:22 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
    FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL files..as
    well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)

    (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)

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    *Hedlund, Jan

    Re:

    11-05-2002 04:51 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
    If I'd like to put a part on my web-site, should I export it as xgl or zgl?
    What kind of plug-in do other need to be able to see, rotate my part?
    /Jan
    www.hemma.ac/janne/home


    "Sean Dotson" skrev i meddelandet
    news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
    files..as
    > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
    >
    > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
    >
    > --
    > Sean Dotson, PE
    > http://www.sdotson.com
    > remove all #s from email
    > -----------------------------------------
    > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
    > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
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    *Dotson, Sean

    Re:

    11-05-2002 05:14 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
    here is a standalone viewer (at the bottom)... I know there is a plugin but
    I can't seem to find it..

    http://www.envisageuk.com/download.htm

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    Sean Dotson, PE
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    "Jan Hedlund" wrote in message
    news:16EAF14C424419EDE9DB9EF3AD1E326B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > If I'd like to put a part on my web-site, should I export it as xgl or
    zgl?
    > What kind of plug-in do other need to be able to see, rotate my part?
    > /Jan
    > www.hemma.ac/janne/home
    >
    >
    > "Sean Dotson" skrev i meddelandet
    > news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
    > files..as
    > > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
    > >
    > > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
    > >
    > > --
    > > Sean Dotson, PE
    > > http://www.sdotson.com
    > > remove all #s from email
    > > -----------------------------------------
    > > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
    > > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
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    *Radlin, David

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    11-05-2002 05:18 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
    ... which are not much use unless you have a Streamline or similar
    RealityWave VizStream based account. Autodesk wants you to go the
    Streamline route.

    I guess I don't blame them but I'd like to see more options available to me
    in this area.

    If Dassault is using OpenHSF then that is reason for Autodesk not to (VBG).

    Dave

    "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
    news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
    files..as
    > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
    >
    > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
    >
    > --
    > Sean Dotson, PE
    > http://www.sdotson.com
    > remove all #s from email
    > -----------------------------------------
    > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
    > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
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    *Dotson, Sean

    Re:

    11-05-2002 05:30 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
    the AMP are streamline based but the ZGL and XGL have free viewers out
    there...(see post above for one)

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    "David Radlin" wrote in message
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    > ... which are not much use unless you have a Streamline or similar
    > RealityWave VizStream based account. Autodesk wants you to go the
    > Streamline route.
    >
    > I guess I don't blame them but I'd like to see more options available to
    me
    > in this area.
    >
    > If Dassault is using OpenHSF then that is reason for Autodesk not to
    (VBG).
    >
    > Dave
    >
    > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
    > news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
    > files..as
    > > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
    > >
    > > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
    > >
    > > --
    > > Sean Dotson, PE
    > > http://www.sdotson.com
    > > remove all #s from email
    > > -----------------------------------------
    > > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
    > > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
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    *Radlin, David

    Re:

    11-05-2002 05:34 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
    You need a VizStream enabled server in order to stream zgl files over the
    web or a Streamline or RealityWave account. You can't simply install a
    viewer, post a zgl file to your html folder and have a web viewer... well
    you can... sort of.... but then visitors could download your zgl file. The
    idea is to have the model streamed to the viewer without actually
    downloading a file. This gives you control over who sees what and when.

    Dave

    "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
    news:3A35C715A43520DB639CB5A49C4FE398@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > the AMP are streamline based but the ZGL and XGL have free viewers out
    > there...(see post above for one)
    >
    > --
    > Sean Dotson, PE
    > http://www.sdotson.com
    > remove all #s from email
    > -----------------------------------------
    > "David Radlin" wrote in message
    > news:82E9264BD72BB4753712077BA27D6A5C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > ... which are not much use unless you have a Streamline or similar
    > > RealityWave VizStream based account. Autodesk wants you to go the
    > > Streamline route.
    > >
    > > I guess I don't blame them but I'd like to see more options available to
    > me
    > > in this area.
    > >
    > > If Dassault is using OpenHSF then that is reason for Autodesk not to
    > (VBG).
    > >
    > > Dave
    > >
    > > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
    > > news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
    > > files..as
    > > > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
    > > >
    > > > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Sean Dotson, PE
    > > > http://www.sdotson.com
    > > > remove all #s from email
    > > > -----------------------------------------
    > > > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
    > > > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
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    *Dotson, Sean

    Re:

    11-05-2002 05:39 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
    Maybe this was it:

    http://www.buzzsaw.com/content/support/supportpop_software.html


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    "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
    news:505A9D9AC9AF2C1B338F62C081EFAFDF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > here is a standalone viewer (at the bottom)... I know there is a plugin
    but
    > I can't seem to find it..
    >
    > http://www.envisageuk.com/download.htm
    >
    > --
    > Sean Dotson, PE
    > http://www.sdotson.com
    > remove all #s from email
    > -----------------------------------------
    > "Jan Hedlund" wrote in message
    > news:16EAF14C424419EDE9DB9EF3AD1E326B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > If I'd like to put a part on my web-site, should I export it as xgl or
    > zgl?
    > > What kind of plug-in do other need to be able to see, rotate my part?
    > > /Jan
    > > www.hemma.ac/janne/home
    > >
    > >
    > > "Sean Dotson" skrev i meddelandet
    > > news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
    > > files..as
    > > > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
    > > >
    > > > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Sean Dotson, PE
    > > > http://www.sdotson.com
    > > > remove all #s from email
    > > > -----------------------------------------
    > > > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
    > > > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
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    *Dotson, Sean

    Re:

    11-05-2002 05:44 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
    You can download the Streamline extension package for Inventor from the
    www.buzzsaw.com site. I assume it includes the xgl/zgl plugin viewer. As I
    have already gotten the streamline plugin I've already had this installed I
    assume so I can't be sure 100%.

    Security is a separate issue IMO.

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    http://www.sdotson.com
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    "David Radlin" wrote in message
    news:01AD8978718E84867911A7343FF2301C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > You need a VizStream enabled server in order to stream zgl files over the
    > web or a Streamline or RealityWave account. You can't simply install a
    > viewer, post a zgl file to your html folder and have a web viewer... well
    > you can... sort of.... but then visitors could download your zgl file.
    The
    > idea is to have the model streamed to the viewer without actually
    > downloading a file. This gives you control over who sees what and when.
    >
    > Dave
    >
    > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
    > news:3A35C715A43520DB639CB5A49C4FE398@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > the AMP are streamline based but the ZGL and XGL have free viewers out
    > > there...(see post above for one)
    > >
    > > --
    > > Sean Dotson, PE
    > > http://www.sdotson.com
    > > remove all #s from email
    > > -----------------------------------------
    > > "David Radlin" wrote in message
    > > news:82E9264BD72BB4753712077BA27D6A5C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > ... which are not much use unless you have a Streamline or similar
    > > > RealityWave VizStream based account. Autodesk wants you to go the
    > > > Streamline route.
    > > >
    > > > I guess I don't blame them but I'd like to see more options available
    to
    > > me
    > > > in this area.
    > > >
    > > > If Dassault is using OpenHSF then that is reason for Autodesk not to
    > > (VBG).
    > > >
    > > > Dave
    > > >
    > > > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
    > > > news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
    > > > files..as
    > > > > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
    > > > >
    > > > > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > Sean Dotson, PE
    > > > > http://www.sdotson.com
    > > > > remove all #s from email
    > > > > -----------------------------------------
    > > > > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in
    message
    > > > > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
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    *Radlin, David

    Re:

    11-05-2002 06:08 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
    Security and bandwidth are precisely the issues on the topic of web based
    viewing / collaboration. The "web streaming" concept is what makes web
    based viewing practical. The viewer is handy but not so practical by
    comparison to true web based viewing on which the article was topic.
    Plug-ins do nothing without an enabled server to host and stream your data.
    My point is to make the distinction for the benefit of Jan and others.

    Dave

    "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
    news:5F0F92D57A0E97E822A3F837B6887C0B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > You can download the Streamline extension package for Inventor from the
    > www.buzzsaw.com site. I assume it includes the xgl/zgl plugin viewer. As
    I
    > have already gotten the streamline plugin I've already had this installed
    I
    > assume so I can't be sure 100%.
    >
    > Security is a separate issue IMO.
    >
    > --
    > Sean Dotson, PE
    > http://www.sdotson.com
    > remove all #s from email
    > -----------------------------------------
    > "David Radlin" wrote in message
    > news:01AD8978718E84867911A7343FF2301C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > You need a VizStream enabled server in order to stream zgl files over
    the
    > > web or a Streamline or RealityWave account. You can't simply install a
    > > viewer, post a zgl file to your html folder and have a web viewer...
    well
    > > you can... sort of.... but then visitors could download your zgl file.
    > The
    > > idea is to have the model streamed to the viewer without actually
    > > downloading a file. This gives you control over who sees what and when.
    > >
    > > Dave
    > >
    > > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
    > > news:3A35C715A43520DB639CB5A49C4FE398@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > the AMP are streamline based but the ZGL and XGL have free viewers out
    > > > there...(see post above for one)
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Sean Dotson, PE
    > > > http://www.sdotson.com
    > > > remove all #s from email
    > > > -----------------------------------------
    > > > "David Radlin" wrote in message
    > > > news:82E9264BD72BB4753712077BA27D6A5C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > > ... which are not much use unless you have a Streamline or similar
    > > > > RealityWave VizStream based account. Autodesk wants you to go the
    > > > > Streamline route.
    > > > >
    > > > > I guess I don't blame them but I'd like to see more options
    available
    > to
    > > > me
    > > > > in this area.
    > > > >
    > > > > If Dassault is using OpenHSF then that is reason for Autodesk not to
    > > > (VBG).
    > > > >
    > > > > Dave
    > > > >
    > > > > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
    > > > > news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > > > > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
    > > > > files..as
    > > > > > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
    > > > > >
    > > > > > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Sean Dotson, PE
    > > > > > http://www.sdotson.com
    > > > > > remove all #s from email
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