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    *J, Dave

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    12-04-2002 01:44 AM in reply to: zeni
    Another workaround is to create a sketch, project
    the geometries, draw a line over ref geometry line, delete ref geometry,
    dimension. Not very good, but better then creating an IDW. Also, this will show
    dist. to ID of thread if you have minor dia. option picked in hole
    feature.


     

     


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    I miss the precise geometry snapping the most.
    Example: measuring the quadrant of a hole to perpendicular edge to
    measure the amount of material remaining for bolt connections.  It's just
    a different animal.  Animations are one huge advantage over
    MDT.


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    I
    am new to Inventor. After spending a week or so on Inventor, doubts started
    to grow in my mind.Before I get any deeper in Inventor, I have one simple
    question if some one can kindly answer it.

    NVENTOR REALLY ANY BETTER THAN MECH DESKTOP?? And if so then in what way?

    I am in no way against the Inventor as I confessed my inexperience with
    it. I really miss the snaping options, keyboard shortcuts and above all
    keyboard entry of relative and absolute coordinates. Is there some
    compensation for these in inventor?

    Any one else share my thinking??

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    *Streich, Keith

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    12-04-2002 01:49 AM in reply to: zeni
    Yes, but it would be nice to know while designing
    and not needing a calculator on the side of my keyboard.


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    The
    measure tool certainly needs to be revised. I rarely use it. I create a idw of
    my design or part and use the dimensioning features to obtain measurements.
    You can find the amount of material left from edge of hole to edge of part
    this way.
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    Distinguished Contributor MechMan_
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    12-04-2002 02:08 AM in reply to: zeni
    This is what I do. Create a sketch and draw a ling from the part edge and then coincident constrain the line to the centerpoint and edge of your hole. Place a driven dimension on the line to display the amount of material between the hole edge and part edge. As you change the hole location the sketched line and dimension will update to the new value. Turn off sketch visibility if you don't want to see it anymore. Works great for me. I'll sometimes have a few of these types of sketches to keep track of my design.

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    12-04-2002 02:10 AM in reply to: zeni
    why can't you do this now in inventor I can
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    *J, Dave

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    12-04-2002 02:10 AM in reply to: zeni
    I'd like to see that. Can you do a "print screen"
    and post it to the CF so we can all see?


     

     


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    can't you do this now in inventor I can
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    Distinguished Contributor MechMan_
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    12-04-2002 02:13 AM in reply to: zeni
    IV the BORG? Ouch. IMO ProE has to be the BORG of the 3D CAD world. I've never seen such a stiff and unexciting, yet surprisingly powerful, program.

    IV has to be the USS Enterprise seeing how each one is getting updated to new versions faster than anything else out there. Let's see, IV is now on R6 and the Enterprise is now on it's 6th ship. ;-)

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    *Snyder, Kevin

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    12-04-2002 02:38 AM in reply to: zeni
    I thought I would weigh-in on this subject as
    well.  I've only been using IV since I got it for nothing (minus the
    Subscription costs, that is :smileyhappy:) when Autodesk Inventor Series came out.  I
    had been a staunch supporter of MDT since it came out.  I use IV about 95%
    of the time now.  I do need to go back to MDT for the surfacing
    capability.  Most of our customers give us 'igs files which need to be
    modified.  I have to admit I'm still playing with the surface capability in
    IV.  I'm not sure whether it's up to the capability of MDT, but I'm still
    learning.

     

    I too, believe MDT is headed the same way as the
    dinosaur.

     

    kevin


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    IV
    is a better "design tool" than MDT because of how you can share data between
    geometry and parts via projected geometry, adaptivity, shared sketches, and
    derrived components. If you haven't tried these yet then you should give them
    a go before giving up on IV.

    Also the ability to simulate movement is priceless if you're designing
    moving parts. Yes you can kind of do it in MDT but it's not nearly as nice and
    powerful as IV.

    A couple items I miss is MDT's measurement tools and MDT's flexible assy
    constraints.

    MechMan

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    *Dotson, Sean

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    12-04-2002 02:57 AM in reply to: zeni
    ..and I thought I was a geek
    <vbg>

     

    Just kidding Mech I couldn't resist...


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    IV
    the BORG? Ouch. IMO ProE has to be the BORG of the 3D CAD world. I've never
    seen such a stiff and unexciting, yet surprisingly powerful, program.

    IV has to be the USS Enterprise seeing how each one is getting updated to
    new versions faster than anything else out there. Let's see, IV is now on R6
    and the Enterprise is now on it's 6th ship. ;-)

    MechMan

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    Distinguished Contributor MechMan_
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    12-04-2002 03:06 AM in reply to: zeni
    Somebody's gotta fill the gap in this group. Guru, expert, joker, instructor, author, moderator, programmer..they seem to be taken. ;-)

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    *Koch, Erich

    Re: IS INVENTOR REALLY ANY BETTER THAN MECH. DESKTOP??

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    12-04-2002 03:43 AM in reply to: zeni
    I might as well jump in also. I started using IV about a year and half ago, and
    came from MDT.
    I took the 4 days class, and on Monday morning after the class I could not draw
    a thing..... This is a different animal, a lot better once you think in IV terms
    and not in MDT terms.

    There is a lot that I like about the 2D part of ACAD. Still learning sslloowwlly
    about the ins and outs of the 2D in Inventor, with the great help of this User
    Group. Read as many posts as you can here, they have been a great help to me.
    Whenever I have the time I download the files from CF to see how others approach
    a solution. I have learned from studying the solutions to the "Inventor NG
    World Cup" competition. Study those and see the way others solve the same
    problem. When I see those solutions, I feel like at this point I know about
    25% of the capability of the program. Sometimes very frustrating.
    Stick to reading this news group and "you will soon be wearing walnuts the size
    of diamonds"

    Erich
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