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    Registered: ‎10-24-2003

    Drive constraint in 2013

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    07-30-2012 07:37 PM

    See attached screen shot.

    To activate the new position of the assembly of approx 5k instances takes about 5 minutes in IV 2013 when using Drive constraint. The larger the assembly the longer it takes

    In IV2011 takes about 10 seconds.

    I've never seen the "Not responding" sign in Drive constraint window in previous versions.

    I'm just wondering how can avoid this "New feature" of 2013.

    Is anybody experienced this ?

     

    Thanks

    Julian

     

     

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    Re: Drive constraint in 2013

    07-30-2012 07:42 PM in reply to: jrapert

    Forgot the specs:

    IV2013 Design Suite Premium

    Windows7 Ultimate

    12 GB RAM

    1 GB NVidia Quadro 3700M graphics card

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    blair
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    Re: Drive constraint in 2013

    07-30-2012 08:07 PM in reply to: jrapert

    I have seen this as well in IV2013 on my systems. I don't recall it happening in IV2012. It seems like it gets lost trying to return the model back to the starting point/position.

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    Re: Drive constraint in 2013

    07-30-2012 08:22 PM in reply to: blair

    I used one sample to experinece this, and it can't be reproduced. So could you attach the dataset for more invesigation?

     

    Thanks,

     

    Thanks,
    River Cai

    Quality Assurance Team
    Autodesk, Inc.
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    Re: Drive constraint in 2013

    07-31-2012 02:16 AM in reply to: Yijiang.Cai

    The data set is too large to attach, also contains some proprietary details I can't disclose.

    As I mentioned this issue only significant with large assemblies (5-10000 parts), but similar assembly in ver. 2011 did not have this problem. Seems to me that large assembly handling in 2013 is different to previous versions, and some operations significantly slower

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    Re: Drive constraint in 2013

    08-01-2012 09:03 AM in reply to: jrapert

    Hi! Without the dataset, it is extremely hard to tell where the problem is. I can provide a secure site for you to upload the large file. Please let me know via email if you would like to share.

    In the meantime, could you help me answer the following questions?

    1. What are the default settings in Tools->Application Options->Assembly in R2013 on your machine?

    2. Could you try opening the same assembly and do Rebuild All (Manage -> Rebuild All)? What do you see?

    3. Could you change Hardware setting to Compatibility mode (Tools->Application Options->Hardware) and see if it helps speed up?

    Thanks!

     

     



    Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
    Principal SQA Engineer, Inventor
    Manufacturing Group
    Autodesk, Inc.

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    Re: Drive constraint in 2013

    08-01-2012 06:18 PM in reply to: johnsonshiue

    Hi Johnson.

    Thank you for your help

    1 The default setting is as per attached screenshot. I've tried with different (unchecked) setting with no difference.

    2 I've done  Rebuild all with no apparent problem in approx 5 minutes.

    3  I'm running in Performance mode, tried Compatibility with no difference.

    I'm sending you an email regarding the data set

     

    Thanks

    Julian

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    VinodBalasubramanian
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    Registered: ‎09-30-2007

    Re: Drive constraint in 2013

    08-09-2012 06:03 PM in reply to: jrapert

    Can you try to uncheck the "Enable related constraint failure analysis" option and see whether it helps.

     

    You could also try to increase the Page file size in Windows and Undo size in Inventor under Application options.

     

    Hope it helps.



    Vinod Balasubramanian
    Manufacturing Support Specialist
    Autodesk Support
    Autodesk, Inc.



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