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[#1]

Greetings,
Just about to take the first plunge in the pool of IV10 welding environment.

My question is: How do you make drawings for your different welding stages? When making my acquaintace with welding environment, I have encountered following scenarios:

I would like to make a drawing of an individual part from assembly, with preparations visible. This can be done by choosing preparations-state of a weldment assembly, followed by choosing a part from a pull down-menu. However, parts list still refers to whole assembly whereas I need only that one part. No worries, I’ll just hide those I don’t need.

Machining-stage produces a drawing where all previous weldment stages are visible as well, including preparations and weldings. Drawing used for machining the welded structure shows a lot of things that doesn’t need to be there, such as grooves. Empty grooves even, if I didn’t bother to define the actual weld beads there. I suppose this is as designed, but looking the assembly with the machinist’s eyes who would only see filled grooves, I would like the ability to choose if I want those stages to show or not.
Again, parts list shows every part of an assembly. Guy who does the machining requires only the assembly level information.

I imagine that deriving the welded assembly would solve some of the issues, but I would like to hear if those of you who routinely use welding environment have figured out some good methods and would be kind enough to share.

regards,
Tero

[#2]

Hi Tero,

There are 4 different welding stages to select from when creating a
drawing. Assembly, Preparation, Welds, and Machining. Each stage depends
on the one before it. If you want to see the Machining stage, you will get
the Preparations and Welds. This is because that machining feature may
affect the preparation or weld bead since the machining process is usually
done after these two steps. If you did not want to see the Preparations or
Welds in your drawing, you could go back to the assembly and suppress those
features. However, you need to make sure that machining features are not
dependent on the features you wish to suppress. For instance, if you create
a fillet preparation, then use the edge of the fillet to dimension your
machining feature, the machining feature would also end up getting
suppressed.

Thank you,
Tanya Garner
Inventor QA



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Greetings,
Just about to take the first plunge in the pool of IV10 welding environment.

My question is: How do you make drawings for your different welding stages?
When making my acquaintace with welding environment, I have encountered
following scenarios:

I would like to make a drawing of an individual part from assembly, with
preparations visible. This can be done by choosing preparations-state of a
weldment assembly, followed by choosing a part from a pull down-menu.
However, parts list still refers to whole assembly whereas I need only that
one part. No worries, I'll just hide those I don't need.

Machining-stage produces a drawing where all previous weldment stages are
visible as well, including preparations and weldings. Drawing used for
machining the welded structure shows a lot of things that doesn't need to be
there, such as grooves. Empty grooves even, if I didn't bother to define the
actual weld beads there. I suppose this is as designed, but looking the
assembly with the machinist's eyes who would only see filled grooves, I
would like the ability to choose if I want those stages to show or not.
Again, parts list shows every part of an assembly. Guy who does the
machining requires only the assembly level information.

I imagine that deriving the welded assembly would solve some of the issues,
but I would like to hear if those of you who routinely use welding
environment have figured out some good methods and would be kind enough to
share.

regards,
Tero

[#3]

Hi Tanya,

Thank you for your reply.
Reason for my line of questioning here is I like my assembly drawings to be simple as possible, and now machining drawings becomes crowded with excessive lines due to preparations and welds as well.

When I design an welding assembly constructed of thick plates, i need those drawings that show chamfers of individual plates. If I suppress assembly preparations in order to hide them from machining drawing as you suggested, my part drawings will be affected as well. I know that defer updates would solve this, but i don't see it very usable here.

Furthermore, especially with large welded constructions, i really don't want to model actual beads in order to create machining drawings with "grooveless" cross sections.

I don't criticize how welding environment is working at the moment, all the necessary tools are right there, but I am a little lost what would be an easy working order if I were to keep my wish to create as simple machining drawings as possible.

Thanks,
Tero

[#4]

I have the same problem with welded assembly.  I would like to show that assemblay at the machining state without showing the preparation.  Since I need to show surface preparation on another drawing, I tried to make a level of detail with preparation supressed without success.   Seem that those feature could not be supressed in on level of detail and non-supressed in another one.

Is there a way to hide surface preparation easily when showing the assemblay at machining state ?