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    *Roth, Dave

    Client looking at switching from ACAD 2000 (Vanilla) to Inventor 6

    47 Views, 15 Replies
    11-25-2002 04:34 AM
    Sorry, this may be redundant question, but I haven't had time to check past
    post.

    Looking for opinions (Pros / Cons) for making the switch. A fairly large
    client wants me to
    make the switch too. They are willing to pay for some of the swap and I will
    pay for the balance.
    Training will be involved. Need to know what I am getting into. I have some
    idea, but looking for

    I have 12 years of ACAD (3,000+) hours / year. I do Exhibit Display work for
    these clients.
    They do Design / Enginnering / and Fabrication in house. The Autodesk vendor
    stopped by and
    did a demo / presentation. It was deffinately and eye opener. Looks like it
    is quite intuitive 3D
    model (especial compared to AutoCAD and MD5). What are the draw backs. I was
    quite skeptical
    going into the demo, but was fairly convinced that it was worthwhile
    product, worth really looking into.

    Looking forward to your input.

    Dave
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    *Hinterhoeller, Richard

    Client looking at switching from ACAD 2000 (Vanilla) to Inventor6

    11-25-2002 04:50 AM in reply to: *Roth, Dave
    Dave:

    The downside issues are:

    1/ You'll need to make sure your computer is up to par, especially the
    video card.
    2/ Everything you know and can do really efficiently in ACAD will be
    left behind. You're going to feel really stupid and incompetent for a
    while.
    3/ If you really like to tinker with the 'Look of the drawing', you
    don't have nearly the same flexibility as ACAD.

    Everything else is positive and getting better with every release.
    Apart from a few wish-list items, I prefer the IV way of doing things.
    I'd say my modelling is 20% faster than ACAD and the detailing 80% faster.

    Sounds like you have a great opportunity with a supportive client so go
    for it. Just keep an open mind because it's a different beast.

    Richard
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    *DJSpaceMouse

    Client looking at switching from ACAD 2000 (Vanilla) to Inventor6

    11-25-2002 04:51 AM in reply to: *Roth, Dave
    Really? I think most people would say they model in Inventor 80% faster
    than in AutoCAD, and detail 20% faster in Inventor than in AutoCAD.

    "Richard Hinterhoeller" wrote in message
    news:3DE28D08.30802@hfx.eastlink.ca...
    > I'd say my modelling is 20% faster than ACAD and the detailing 80% faster.
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    *PANNING, AUGUST

    Re: Client looking at switching from ACAD 2000 (Vanilla) to Inventor 6

    11-25-2002 04:58 AM in reply to: *Roth, Dave
    Get used to not having a command line, otherwise, the rest is easy.
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    *Roth, Dave

    Client looking at switching from ACAD 2000 (Vanilla) to Inventor6

    11-25-2002 04:58 AM in reply to: *Roth, Dave
    Thanks Richard,

    Thanks for the input.

    My machine is already above min. specs. (video card is min. right now) but
    my new laptop will be more than capable. I always have ACAD as fall back,
    just want to have some additional feedback to help with client and make it a
    little easier for me to swallow the additionl price tag. I know, cost of
    doing business, and I can write it off too, just hadn't planned on the
    additional cost right now.

    I know that there will be a big learning curve, but I adapt to new software
    pretty easily.

    I will be doing lots tube of framing and plywood panels. Very often a
    tedious process (espedcially in plain jane AutoCAD) when there are changes.
    Usually a total redo of the model.

    Dave
    Please use plain text.
    *McConnell, Cory

    Client looking at switching from ACAD 2000 (Vanilla) to Inventor6

    11-25-2002 05:01 AM in reply to: *Roth, Dave
    You will want read up on "skeletal Modeling" for tubing frames it can't be
    beat.

    See the *** Inventor FAQ *** for some links

    --
    Cory McConnell
    BJ pipeline Inspection
    "Dave Roth" wrote in message
    news:EE366E924CA308FC8A0616606C291287@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > Thanks Richard,
    >
    > Thanks for the input.
    >
    > My machine is already above min. specs. (video card is min. right now) but
    > my new laptop will be more than capable. I always have ACAD as fall back,
    > just want to have some additional feedback to help with client and make it
    a
    > little easier for me to swallow the additionl price tag. I know, cost of
    > doing business, and I can write it off too, just hadn't planned on the
    > additional cost right now.
    >
    > I know that there will be a big learning curve, but I adapt to new
    software
    > pretty easily.
    >
    > I will be doing lots tube of framing and plywood panels. Very often a
    > tedious process (espedcially in plain jane AutoCAD) when there are
    changes.
    > Usually a total redo of the model.
    >
    > Dave
    >
    >
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    *Allen, Albert

    Re: Client looking at switching from ACAD 2000 (Vanilla) to Inventor 6

    11-25-2002 05:23 AM in reply to: *Roth, Dave
    Learning Inventor is a snap but the system you install it on needs to quite
    a bit more than the suggested minimum requirements, and as stated by Richard
    the video card is very very important. You will love inventor as long as
    your system is happy with it!

    Albert


    "Dave Roth" wrote in message
    news:smileyvery-happy:B141731B439591206DC4104F2172981@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > Sorry, this may be redundant question, but I haven't had time to check
    past
    > post.
    >
    > Looking for opinions (Pros / Cons) for making the switch. A fairly large
    > client wants me to
    > make the switch too. They are willing to pay for some of the swap and I
    will
    > pay for the balance.
    > Training will be involved. Need to know what I am getting into. I have
    some
    > idea, but looking for
    >
    > I have 12 years of ACAD (3,000+) hours / year. I do Exhibit Display work
    for
    > these clients.
    > They do Design / Enginnering / and Fabrication in house. The Autodesk
    vendor
    > stopped by and
    > did a demo / presentation. It was deffinately and eye opener. Looks like
    it
    > is quite intuitive 3D
    > model (especial compared to AutoCAD and MD5). What are the draw backs. I
    was
    > quite skeptical
    > going into the demo, but was fairly convinced that it was worthwhile
    > product, worth really looking into.
    >
    > Looking forward to your input.
    >
    > Dave
    >
    >
    >
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    *Dotson, Sean

    Client looking at switching from ACAD 2000 (Vanilla) to Inventor6

    11-25-2002 05:41 AM in reply to: *Roth, Dave
    "but my new laptop will be more than capable. "

    What laptop do you have in mind? There are several users (including me)
    that have laptops that run IV, but there are a bunch out there that won't
    do...

    Once you get used to Inventor you will go back to 2D kicking and
    screaming... :smileyhappy:

    --
    Sean Dotson, PE
    http://www.sdotson.com
    ...sleep is for the weak..
    -----------------------------------------
    "Dave Roth" wrote in message
    news:EE366E924CA308FC8A0616606C291287@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > Thanks Richard,
    >
    > Thanks for the input.
    >
    > My machine is already above min. specs. (video card is min. right now) but
    > my new laptop will be more than capable. I always have ACAD as fall back,
    > just want to have some additional feedback to help with client and make it
    a
    > little easier for me to swallow the additionl price tag. I know, cost of
    > doing business, and I can write it off too, just hadn't planned on the
    > additional cost right now.
    >
    > I know that there will be a big learning curve, but I adapt to new
    software
    > pretty easily.
    >
    > I will be doing lots tube of framing and plywood panels. Very often a
    > tedious process (espedcially in plain jane AutoCAD) when there are
    changes.
    > Usually a total redo of the model.
    >
    > Dave
    >
    >
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    *Roth, Dave

    Re:

    11-25-2002 05:47 AM in reply to: *Roth, Dave
    Current Workstation:

    Custom - home built
    AMD 2.2 XP / 333 FSB Ausus Mother Bd. (Going to up it to 2.8 soon)

    1GB DDR Ram

    Nvidia GeForce 4 MMX 440 (64mb) (Looking at the Quadro 4 900XGL - 128mb)

    Win XP Pro (with all service packs)

    320GB hard drive space in 4 ATA 133 Western Digital drives

    19" flat screen Monitor

    Broadband Connection DSL (650 kb min. connection)

    Will add a 3D Space ball (looking for suggestions)

    Also considering a second monitor (17") for menus, etc... (if the card will
    support it - have to check specs)



    New laptop (to be ordered soon): (will replace my 850Mhz Sony VIO)
    Alienware Area-51m

    Intel Pentium 4 3.0 Ghz 533 FSB ./ Intel 845e+ich3m Mother Bd.

    1GB DDR Ram

    60GB ATA100 hard drive

    ATI Radeon 9000 (64 MB)

    15" UXGA LCD monitor

    Any comments are welcome



    "Albert Allen" wrote in message
    news:93EFD3831273B41E18C2E7F24DE01415@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > Learning Inventor is a snap but the system you install it on needs to
    quite
    > a bit more than the suggested minimum requirements, and as stated by
    Richard
    > the video card is very very important. You will love inventor as long as
    > your system is happy with it!
    >
    > Albert
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    *Keller, Kent

    Re:

    11-25-2002 05:51 AM in reply to: *Roth, Dave
    Don't think that ATI will cut it. You want a nVidia chip

    --
    Kent
    Member of the Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program


    "Dave Roth" wrote in message
    >
    > New laptop (to be ordered soon): (will replace my 850Mhz Sony VIO)
    > Alienware Area-51m
    >
    > Intel Pentium 4 3.0 Ghz 533 FSB ./ Intel 845e+ich3m Mother Bd.
    >
    > 1GB DDR Ram
    >
    > 60GB ATA100 hard drive
    >
    > ATI Radeon 9000 (64 MB)
    >
    > 15" UXGA LCD monitor
    >
    > Any comments are welcome
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