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*Yeandle, Laurence
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11-13-2002 07:56 PM in reply to:
*Allen, Albert
Smart Charles, just knock up a model like you
do...between jobs. Are you gona post the model? So the question is how are the
majority of these instruments constructed? That shot is straight out of IV
right.
do...between jobs. Are you gona post the model? So the question is how are the
majority of these instruments constructed? That shot is straight out of IV
right.
--
Laurence,
Power is nothing without
Control
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"Charles Bliss" <I
href="mailto:cbliss@cbliss.com">cbliss@cbliss.com> wrote in message
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just posted a Trumpet to CF. This thread caught my interest so I pulled
the old trumpet out to see if I could model it. Anyone up for modeling a
Strad?
In the process, I found a bug in my Save to JPEG tool.
That has been repaired and posted to my web site.
Ole Germer
wrote:
type="cite">It is spun if you know what that is!
Ole
"Richard Hinterhoeller" <rhinterhoeller@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
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Albert:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.
Richard
*Rasmussen, Ed
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11-13-2002 10:36 PM in reply to:
*Allen, Albert
Are you asking how they are constructed or how to
model them in Inventor? I think others have been telling you how they are
constructed. The reason you cannot unfold the shape to a flat pattern, it
that there is no flat pattern that can be bent to form those shapes. They
require stretching or deforming the material or else the joining of multiple
pieces. You can model part of the shape with a revolve of a curved
profile, but you cannot expect to be able to create a flat pattern of
it.
model them in Inventor? I think others have been telling you how they are
constructed. The reason you cannot unfold the shape to a flat pattern, it
that there is no flat pattern that can be bent to form those shapes. They
require stretching or deforming the material or else the joining of multiple
pieces. You can model part of the shape with a revolve of a curved
profile, but you cannot expect to be able to create a flat pattern of
it.
Ed
R
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"Laurence Yeandle" <
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Smart Charles, just knock up a model like you
do...between jobs. Are you gona post the model? So the question is how are the
majority of these instruments constructed? That shot is straight out of IV
right.
--
Laurence,
Power is nothing without
Control
---
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"Charles Bliss" <I
href="mailto:cbliss@cbliss.com">cbliss@cbliss.com> wrote in message
href="news:3DD355B1.3030803@cbliss.com">news:3DD355B1.3030803@cbliss.com...
just posted a Trumpet to CF. This thread caught my interest so I
pulled the old trumpet out to see if I could model it. Anyone up for
modeling a Strad?
In the process, I found a bug in my Save to
JPEG tool. That has been repaired and posted to my web
site.
Ole Germer wrote:
type="cite">It is spun if you know what that is!
Ole
"Richard Hinterhoeller" <rhinterhoeller@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:3DD2CF30.5010003@hfx.eastlink.ca...
Albert:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.
Richard
*mpower
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11-13-2002 10:44 PM in reply to:
*Allen, Albert
I have seen them spun from a flat disc and are formed around a mandrel. I
saw a program in last month's Cadalyst Magazine that was for calculating
blanks for stampings. Spinning is a similar process. Maybe that program
would do it.
"Albert Allen" wrote in message
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> Thanks Richard, that is the answer I expected but one can hope. I guess it
> is a little complicated and even if it could give me what to do how would
I
> go about making one
> "Richard Hinterhoeller" wrote in message
> news:3DD2CF30.5010003@hfx.eastlink.ca...
> > Albert:
> >
> > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
> > a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.
> >
> > Richard
> >
>
>
saw a program in last month's Cadalyst Magazine that was for calculating
blanks for stampings. Spinning is a similar process. Maybe that program
would do it.
"Albert Allen"
news:446E9D9EC1CA1AC6B77805183235E207@in.WebX.maYI
> Thanks Richard, that is the answer I expected but one can hope. I guess it
> is a little complicated and even if it could give me what to do how would
I
> go about making one
> "Richard Hinterhoeller"
> news:3DD2CF30.5010003@hfx.eastlink.ca...
> > Albert:
> >
> > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
> > a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.
> >
> > Richard
> >
>
>
*DJSpaceMouse
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11-13-2002 10:51 PM in reply to:
*Allen, Albert
What size mouthpiece is that? That's
certainly not the Schilke 7C that came with the trumpet!
certainly not the Schilke 7C that came with the trumpet!
Throw a third-valve kicker on it and it's a
beaut!
beaut!
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"Charles Bliss" <I
href="mailto:cbliss@cbliss.com">cbliss@cbliss.com> wrote in message
href="news:3DD355B1.3030803@cbliss.com">news:3DD355B1.3030803@cbliss.com...
just posted a Trumpet to CF. This thread caught my interest so I pulled
the old trumpet out to see if I could model it. Anyone up for modeling a
Strad?
In the process, I found a bug in my Save to JPEG tool.
That has been repaired and posted to my web site.
Ole Germer
wrote:
type="cite">It is spun if you know what that is!
Ole
"Richard Hinterhoeller" <rhinterhoeller@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:3DD2CF30.5010003@hfx.eastlink.ca...
Albert:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.
Richard
*Bliss, Charles
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11-13-2002 11:19 PM in reply to:
*Allen, Albert
It was closing on midnight so I didn't measure the mouth piece or add
the drain valve or some of the bits which hold it together or the music
holder mount. I also thought about adding the logo which is a bunch of
dots which reads Locker Music Exchange. My wife is suggesting I have it
fixed and get our kid playing it. Doh!
In answer to one of the other questions, yes, it was captured from
Inventor with my JPEG tool which is how I happened to find the bug in it.
DJSpaceMouse wrote:
> What size mouthpiece is that? That's certainly not the Schilke 7C
> that came with the trumpet!
>
> Throw a third-valve kicker on it and it's a beaut!
>
>
> "Charles Bliss">
> wrote in message news:3DD355B1.3030803@cbliss.com...
> I just posted a Trumpet to CF. This thread caught my interest so
> I pulled the old trumpet out to see if I could model it. Anyone
> up for modeling a Strad?
>
> In the process, I found a bug in my Save to JPEG tool. That has
> been repaired and posted to my web site.
>
> Ole Germer wrote:
>
>>It is spun if you know what that is!
>>Ole
>>
>>"Richard Hinterhoeller" wrote in message
>>news:3DD2CF30.5010003@hfx.eastlink.ca...
>>
>>
>>>Albert:
>>>
>>>Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
>>>a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.
>>>
>>>Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
the drain valve or some of the bits which hold it together or the music
holder mount. I also thought about adding the logo which is a bunch of
dots which reads Locker Music Exchange. My wife is suggesting I have it
fixed and get our kid playing it. Doh!
In answer to one of the other questions, yes, it was captured from
Inventor with my JPEG tool which is how I happened to find the bug in it.
DJSpaceMouse wrote:
> What size mouthpiece is that? That's certainly not the Schilke 7C
> that came with the trumpet!
>
> Throw a third-valve kicker on it and it's a beaut!
>
>
> "Charles Bliss"
> wrote in message news:3DD355B1.3030803@cbliss.com...
> I just posted a Trumpet to CF. This thread caught my interest so
> I pulled the old trumpet out to see if I could model it. Anyone
> up for modeling a Strad?
>
> In the process, I found a bug in my Save to JPEG tool. That has
> been repaired and posted to my web site.
>
> Ole Germer wrote:
>
>>It is spun if you know what that is!
>>Ole
>>
>>"Richard Hinterhoeller"
>>news:3DD2CF30.5010003@hfx.eastlink.ca...
>>
>>
>>>Albert:
>>>
>>>Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
>>>a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.
>>>
>>>Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
*Allen, Albert
Re: Can R6 do a flat of a flared horn?
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11-14-2002 12:03 AM in reply to:
*Allen, Albert
Just through it together eh Charles? it would take me a day to do something
that nice and Charles just throws it together in a leisurely evening
"Albert Allen" wrote in message
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> The kind of flare you might find on a trombone, French horn etc.(not a
cone)
> Will R6 do a flat pattern of that? I think I already know the answer but I
> might be surprised!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Albert (the guy without R6 loaded) but hoping
>
>
that nice and Charles just throws it together in a leisurely evening
"Albert Allen"
news:804394D46651EA5CF2A1A32A50454EAD@in.WebX.maYI
> The kind of flare you might find on a trombone, French horn etc.(not a
cone)
> Will R6 do a flat pattern of that? I think I already know the answer but I
> might be surprised!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Albert (the guy without R6 loaded) but hoping
>
>
*Crain, Ron
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11-14-2002 01:03 AM in reply to:
*Allen, Albert
How did you get the grid floor? Or do you have grids showing? I never use
them so I'm not familiar with what they look like in an assembly.
"Charles Bliss" wrote in message
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> In answer to one of the other questions, yes, it was captured from
> Inventor with my JPEG tool which is how I happened to find the bug in it.
them so I'm not familiar with what they look like in an assembly.
"Charles Bliss"
news:3DD3BEEF.7000308@cbliss.com...
> In answer to one of the other questions, yes, it was captured from
> Inventor with my JPEG tool which is how I happened to find the bug in it.
*Dotson, Sean
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11-14-2002 01:22 AM in reply to:
*Allen, Albert
It's one of the background images you can select by Tools/App Options
--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
...sleep is for the weak..
-----------------------------------------
"Ron Crain" wrote in message
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> How did you get the grid floor? Or do you have grids showing? I never
use
> them so I'm not familiar with what they look like in an assembly.
>
> "Charles Bliss" wrote in message
> news:3DD3BEEF.7000308@cbliss.com...
>
> > In answer to one of the other questions, yes, it was captured from
> > Inventor with my JPEG tool which is how I happened to find the bug in
it.
>
>
>
--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
...sleep is for the weak..
-----------------------------------------
"Ron Crain"
news:F6EC590FCDA36A31E8839141113C867C@in.WebX.maYI
> How did you get the grid floor? Or do you have grids showing? I never
use
> them so I'm not familiar with what they look like in an assembly.
>
> "Charles Bliss"
> news:3DD3BEEF.7000308@cbliss.com...
>
> > In answer to one of the other questions, yes, it was captured from
> > Inventor with my JPEG tool which is how I happened to find the bug in
it.
>
>
>
*Crain, Ron
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11-14-2002 01:34 AM in reply to:
*Allen, Albert
Imagine that!
I'm sure I can even make my own bmp :-)
"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
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> It's one of the background images you can select by Tools/App Options
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> ...sleep is for the weak..
> -----------------------------------------
> "Ron Crain" wrote in message
> news:F6EC590FCDA36A31E8839141113C867C@in.WebX.maYI
> > How did you get the grid floor? Or do you have grids showing? I never
> use
> > them so I'm not familiar with what they look like in an assembly.
> >
> > "Charles Bliss" wrote in message
> > news:3DD3BEEF.7000308@cbliss.com...
> >
> > > In answer to one of the other questions, yes, it was captured from
> > > Inventor with my JPEG tool which is how I happened to find the bug in
> it.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
I'm sure I can even make my own bmp :-)
"Sean Dotson"
news:157303CD102ADA0E99BB51161C8C807D@in.WebX.maYI
> It's one of the background images you can select by Tools/App Options
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> ...sleep is for the weak..
> -----------------------------------------
> "Ron Crain"
> news:F6EC590FCDA36A31E8839141113C867C@in.WebX.maYI
> > How did you get the grid floor? Or do you have grids showing? I never
> use
> > them so I'm not familiar with what they look like in an assembly.
> >
> > "Charles Bliss"
> > news:3DD3BEEF.7000308@cbliss.com...
> >
> > > In answer to one of the other questions, yes, it was captured from
> > > Inventor with my JPEG tool which is how I happened to find the bug in
> it.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
