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    *Hendey, Matt

    Blown-Up Drawings, AutoDesk, Anyone, PLEASE HELP

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    11-15-2002 02:34 AM
    How do I get Inventor to stop scattering my drawing views when they become
    precise? R6 will open the drawing up Okay but I can't use R6. I do a lot of
    sheet metal and have had this problem since R4 or R5 on three different
    machines.

    System:
    Duel AMD 2000+
    Quadro 4 900
    2 gig ram
    Win 2000 SP2


    Thanks,
    Matt
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    Re: Blown-Up Drawings, AutoDesk, Anyone, PLEASE HELP

    11-15-2002 03:16 AM in reply to: *Hendey, Matt
    don't understand please explain more I too do alot of sheet metal but have never had a problem. and do you have sp2 installed for 5.3
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    *Hendey, Matt

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    11-15-2002 04:32 AM in reply to: *Hendey, Matt
    Check out the views in CF under the same subject in
    PDF format. I think this is a file that was done on my previous machine. I
    think this may be something that Inventor and that older machine are doing to
    the files. It was a Dell precision 220, 512 ram, P3 733, Win 2000 SP2,
    GVX1 so it's not like it's a odd situation.

     

    Thanks for the reply,

    Matt

     


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    don't
    understand please explain more I too do alot of sheet metal but have never had
    a problem. and do you have sp2 installed for 5.3
    Please use plain text.
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    11-15-2002 04:32 AM in reply to: *Hendey, Matt
    wow, do you have sp2 installed on Inventor?
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    *Hendey, Matt

    Re:

    11-15-2002 05:29 AM in reply to: *Hendey, Matt
    Yes I do.

     

    It seams to open okay in R6, minus the dims losing
    there references, but I can't use R6. I have cut my miters in my sheet metal
    parts since R2 and now R6 cuts off most the bend on those parts. I can't win. I
    am told that SP1 will not fix the bend problem. Now we can use offsets
    in the flange tool and then the miter option in the corner tool, but not till
    R4, I believe. How do you, or have you, created sheet metal miters?

     

    Thanks,

    Matt

     


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    wow,
    do you have sp2 installed on Inventor?
    Please use plain text.
    *Hendey, Matt

    Re: Blown-Up Drawings, AutoDesk, Anyone, PLEASE HELP

    11-15-2002 05:41 AM in reply to: *Hendey, Matt
    I will add, I don't have as many problems with my new machine, R5.3. But,
    will that change?..............................

    You know, I wander if things will ever get better. Do I want to continue
    upgrading? It's a double edged sword. You fight the mess of a new version
    for new features or you fall to the wayside to hold on to the good release.

    It's sick if you ask me.

    System:
    Duel AMD 2000+
    Quadro 4 900
    2 gig ram
    Win 2000 SP2

    Matt

    "Matt Hendey" wrote in message
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    > How do I get Inventor to stop scattering my drawing views when they become
    > precise? R6 will open the drawing up Okay but I can't use R6. I do a lot
    of
    > sheet metal and have had this problem since R4 or R5 on three different
    > machines.
    >
    > System:
    > Duel AMD 2000+
    > Quadro 4 900
    > 2 gig ram
    > Win 2000 SP2
    >
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Matt
    >
    >
    >
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    *Gwin, Hal

    Re:

    11-15-2002 06:25 AM in reply to: *Hendey, Matt
    Matt,

    I have never seen idw's do what your pdfs show. I do a lot of sheet metal
    parts and assemblies, but have never seen this. Some of my sheet metal ipts
    and idws have been migrated to R4, R5 & R5.3. The only time I have seen
    dimensions disconnect has been when a feature was deleted and then
    resketched. Have you deleted features (flanges, bends, etc.) and then
    reconstructed them?

    --
    Hal Gwin
    Mechanical Designer
    Xenogen
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    *Hendey, Matt

    Re:

    11-17-2002 10:40 PM in reply to: *Hendey, Matt
    Nothing has to be done to the IDW. If the drawing is just reopened, it will
    do this. Most of the time I can close without saving and it will reload
    fine. But, Every time I load a drawing I have to check all the sheets to
    make sure the dimensions haven't moved or attached to another edge of a
    sheet metal part or the opposite side of a radius were you see the profile
    of a bend. I show flat and finished dimensions of all the sheet metal parts
    in my drawings. No CAM. I do have parts that I have had to be rebuilt from
    scratch because they will not behave. All the lines scatter when the drawing
    goes precise.

    AutoDesk is aware of the problem. It looks like R6 my deal with the problem
    a lot better then previous versions. I will note that I use design assistant
    quite a bit. I will copy every thing from IDW down sometimes. I think DA is
    very touchy so I never use DA with Inventor open. That seams to cause
    problems.

    Like I said, my old machine seamed to have had more problems. I have not had
    as much of a problem with my new machine. All though Inventor, as you can
    tell, still likes to acts up. But for me, I guess it's better then AutoCAD
    LT. I think?

    Thanks,
    Matt

    "Hal Gwin" wrote in message
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    > Matt,
    >
    > I have never seen idw's do what your pdfs show. I do a lot of sheet metal
    > parts and assemblies, but have never seen this. Some of my sheet metal
    ipts
    > and idws have been migrated to R4, R5 & R5.3. The only time I have seen
    > dimensions disconnect has been when a feature was deleted and then
    > resketched. Have you deleted features (flanges, bends, etc.) and then
    > reconstructed them?
    >
    > --
    > Hal Gwin
    > Mechanical Designer
    > Xenogen
    >
    >
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    *Maas, Karl

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    11-17-2002 11:02 PM in reply to: *Hendey, Matt


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    K

     

     


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     How do you, or have you, created sheet
    metal miters?
    Please use plain text.
    *Hendey, Matt

    Re:

    11-18-2002 12:56 AM in reply to: *Hendey, Matt
    Thanks for your help Karl. Now how do I take all
    the models I did in R2 and R3 and convert them to the (offset miter) method. I
    didn't have the offset option with the flange tool in R2,  R3 and
    I'm not sure about R4. I have also used this method in my templates up
    to this point. I have hundreds of models like this. AutoDesk did not take
    this into account. Why should I change because AutoDesk can't produce a true
    upgrade. At what point would it take less time to convert to SW then upgrade to
    the next R(X)? Is this par for the course? I hope not!

     

    Please understand, this is not directed to you
    Karl.

     

    Matt

     


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    metal miters?
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