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    *Triton, Mark

    Bleed Thru Continues

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    11-18-2002 12:16 AM
    . . . and the bleed thru problem continues in printing and/or plotting even
    after SP1 is installed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hidden edges
    showing in shaded views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Do I need to show another example in CF??? I've been complaining about this
    since Beta 2!!!!!!!!!!! I thought this was to be fixed!!!! Shaded views
    are also looking very "cartoonish" with heavy black outlines and poor color
    quality!!!!!!!! I am going to post a sample in CF - material is white
    delrin - idw created in IV5.3 (or 5, or 4 - can't remember). The second
    sample (idw) was created just now - bleed thru gone. So it appears that
    shaded views in old (pre-IV6 SP1) idw's will not print/plot properly. Am I
    correct in my assumption?

    The graphics driver is fully certified.
    The graphics driver ID is NVIDIA Corporation\Quadro/AGP/SSE\1.2.2
    Graphics driver file nv4_disp.dll is version 5.13.01.1241
    Using Full optimization (this is the recommended setting)
    SwapType = 4
    Workarounds = 0x00000000
    Workarounds2 = 0x00000002
    The display is using 32-bit color

    HW Library Version = Win2K - $Revision: #3 $
    HW Library Date = $DateTime: 2002/11/11 13:09:54 $

    Options = 0
    Warning Options = 15


    Settings for optimized and conservative:
    SwapType: 4, 2
    Workarounds: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
    Workarounds2: 0x00000002, 0x00000040
    Text Options: 0x00000002, 0x00000000
    OpenGL Version: 12, 12
    Recommended Optimization Level: 2
    Texture Font Precision: 32
    Stroke Font Precision: 0.001000
    Driver Rating: 3
    Inventor Version Tested: 6070a

    Using OpenGL 1.1
    swap behavior: saveRestore(4)
    OpenGL errors: None.
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    *Dotson, Sean

    Re: Bleed Thru Continues

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    11-18-2002 12:22 AM in reply to: *Triton, Mark
    Mark,

    might want to save the Paint Shop Pro images as JPEGs. Not all of us have
    Paint Shop Pro...

    I'll have to check some of my older files. I do not see the bleed thru on
    files created in R6.


    --
    Sean Dotson, PE
    http://www.sdotson.com
    ...sleep is for the weak..
    -----------------------------------------
    "Mark Triton" wrote in message
    news:0A1C709BFC959787F327096F1BC7317A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > . . . and the bleed thru problem continues in printing and/or plotting
    even
    > after SP1 is installed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hidden edges
    > showing in shaded views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    > Do I need to show another example in CF??? I've been complaining about
    this
    > since Beta 2!!!!!!!!!!! I thought this was to be fixed!!!! Shaded views
    > are also looking very "cartoonish" with heavy black outlines and poor
    color
    > quality!!!!!!!! I am going to post a sample in CF - material is white
    > delrin - idw created in IV5.3 (or 5, or 4 - can't remember). The second
    > sample (idw) was created just now - bleed thru gone. So it appears that
    > shaded views in old (pre-IV6 SP1) idw's will not print/plot properly. Am
    I
    > correct in my assumption?
    >
    > The graphics driver is fully certified.
    > The graphics driver ID is NVIDIA Corporation\Quadro/AGP/SSE\1.2.2
    > Graphics driver file nv4_disp.dll is version 5.13.01.1241
    > Using Full optimization (this is the recommended setting)
    > SwapType = 4
    > Workarounds = 0x00000000
    > Workarounds2 = 0x00000002
    > The display is using 32-bit color
    >
    > HW Library Version = Win2K - $Revision: #3 $
    > HW Library Date = $DateTime: 2002/11/11 13:09:54 $
    >
    > Options = 0
    > Warning Options = 15
    >
    >
    > Settings for optimized and conservative:
    > SwapType: 4, 2
    > Workarounds: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
    > Workarounds2: 0x00000002, 0x00000040
    > Text Options: 0x00000002, 0x00000000
    > OpenGL Version: 12, 12
    > Recommended Optimization Level: 2
    > Texture Font Precision: 32
    > Stroke Font Precision: 0.001000
    > Driver Rating: 3
    > Inventor Version Tested: 6070a
    >
    > Using OpenGL 1.1
    > swap behavior: saveRestore(4)
    > OpenGL errors: None.
    >
    >
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    *Triton, Mark

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    11-18-2002 12:32 AM in reply to: *Triton, Mark
    Sorry - I meant to save them as JPEGs. Will redo. The bleed thru does not
    seem to happen on files created in R6 - only previous idw's.

    Mark


    "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
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    > Mark,
    >
    > might want to save the Paint Shop Pro images as JPEGs. Not all of us have
    > Paint Shop Pro...
    >
    > I'll have to check some of my older files. I do not see the bleed thru on
    > files created in R6.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Sean Dotson, PE
    > http://www.sdotson.com
    > ...sleep is for the weak..
    > -----------------------------------------
    > "Mark Triton" wrote in message
    > news:0A1C709BFC959787F327096F1BC7317A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > . . . and the bleed thru problem continues in printing and/or plotting
    > even
    > > after SP1 is installed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hidden edges
    > > showing in shaded views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    > > Do I need to show another example in CF??? I've been complaining about
    > this
    > > since Beta 2!!!!!!!!!!! I thought this was to be fixed!!!! Shaded
    views
    > > are also looking very "cartoonish" with heavy black outlines and poor
    > color
    > > quality!!!!!!!! I am going to post a sample in CF - material is white
    > > delrin - idw created in IV5.3 (or 5, or 4 - can't remember). The second
    > > sample (idw) was created just now - bleed thru gone. So it appears that
    > > shaded views in old (pre-IV6 SP1) idw's will not print/plot properly.
    Am
    > I
    > > correct in my assumption?
    > >
    > > The graphics driver is fully certified.
    > > The graphics driver ID is NVIDIA Corporation\Quadro/AGP/SSE\1.2.2
    > > Graphics driver file nv4_disp.dll is version 5.13.01.1241
    > > Using Full optimization (this is the recommended setting)
    > > SwapType = 4
    > > Workarounds = 0x00000000
    > > Workarounds2 = 0x00000002
    > > The display is using 32-bit color
    > >
    > > HW Library Version = Win2K - $Revision: #3 $
    > > HW Library Date = $DateTime: 2002/11/11 13:09:54 $
    > >
    > > Options = 0
    > > Warning Options = 15
    > >
    > >
    > > Settings for optimized and conservative:
    > > SwapType: 4, 2
    > > Workarounds: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
    > > Workarounds2: 0x00000002, 0x00000040
    > > Text Options: 0x00000002, 0x00000000
    > > OpenGL Version: 12, 12
    > > Recommended Optimization Level: 2
    > > Texture Font Precision: 32
    > > Stroke Font Precision: 0.001000
    > > Driver Rating: 3
    > > Inventor Version Tested: 6070a
    > >
    > > Using OpenGL 1.1
    > > swap behavior: saveRestore(4)
    > > OpenGL errors: None.
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
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    Distinguished Contributor MattH
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    Re: Bleed Thru Continues

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    11-18-2002 01:14 AM in reply to: *Triton, Mark
    Can't say for the bleed thru but have to agree, Inventor 6 SP1 shaded views do look very cartoonish (great if this is required but possibly a wee bit unprofessional looking compared to IV5.3)
    Regards
    Matt Hutchinson
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    *Rasmussen, Ed

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    11-18-2002 02:18 AM in reply to: *Triton, Mark
    I have a part that was created in R6 SP0.  In
    my first drawing using SP1 this morning,  I kept getting the bleed through
    in print preview and paper prints of one of the two shaded views I made of that
    part.  I edited the view and changed to hidden line removed and then
    changed again back to shaded.  That view now previews and prints with no
    bleed through.  I don't know if that process will consistently fix any
    views with bleed through, but you might want to try it.

     

            Ed
    R

     

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    Can't
    say for the bleed thru but have to agree, Inventor 6 SP1 shaded views do look
    very cartoonish (great if this is required but possibly a wee bit
    unprofessional looking compared to IV5.3)
    Regards
    Matt
    Hutchinson
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    *QA\, Autodesk Inventor

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    11-18-2002 02:57 AM in reply to: *Triton, Mark
    I believe that if you highlight the view in
    the browser and click on the Update button, it will accomplish the same
    thing--and you should not see any bleed-through when you print after doing the
    Update.

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    I have a part that was created in R6 SP0. 
    In my first drawing using SP1 this morning,  I kept getting the bleed
    through in print preview and paper prints of one of the two shaded views I
    made of that part.  I edited the view and changed to hidden line removed
    and then changed again back to shaded.  That view now previews and prints
    with no bleed through.  I don't know if that process will consistently
    fix any views with bleed through, but you might want to try it.

     

            Ed
    R

     

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    Can't
    say for the bleed thru but have to agree, Inventor 6 SP1 shaded views do
    look very cartoonish (great if this is required but possibly a wee bit
    unprofessional looking compared to IV5.3)
    Regards
    Matt
    Hutchinson
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    *Rasmussen, Ed

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    11-18-2002 03:05 AM in reply to: *Triton, Mark
    Thanks.  I will try that on the next one that
    shows that problem.

     

           
        Ed R

     

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    I believe that if you highlight the view in
    the browser and click on the Update button, it will accomplish the same
    thing--and you should not see any bleed-through when you print after doing the
    Update.

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    I have a part that was created in R6 SP0. 
    In my first drawing using SP1 this morning,  I kept getting the bleed
    through in print preview and paper prints of one of the two shaded views I
    made of that part.  I edited the view and changed to hidden line
    removed and then changed again back to shaded.  That view now previews
    and prints with no bleed through.  I don't know if that process will
    consistently fix any views with bleed through, but you might want to try
    it.

     

            Ed
    R

     

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    Can't
    say for the bleed thru but have to agree, Inventor 6 SP1 shaded views do
    look very cartoonish (great if this is required but possibly a wee bit
    unprofessional looking compared to IV5.3)
    Regards
    Matt
    Hutchinson
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    *Rasmussen, Ed

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    11-18-2002 03:28 AM in reply to: *Triton, Mark
    When I highlight the view in the browser, there is
    no Update button available that I can see.  I have tried RMB and pull
    downs.

     

            Ed
    R

     

     

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    I believe that if you highlight the view in
    the browser and click on the Update button, it will accomplish the same
    thing--and you should not see any bleed-through when you print after doing the
    Update.

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    I have a part that was created in R6 SP0. 
    In my first drawing using SP1 this morning,  I kept getting the bleed
    through in print preview and paper prints of one of the two shaded views I
    made of that part.  I edited the view and changed to hidden line
    removed and then changed again back to shaded.  That view now previews
    and prints with no bleed through.  I don't know if that process will
    consistently fix any views with bleed through, but you might want to try
    it.

     

            Ed
    R

     

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    Can't
    say for the bleed thru but have to agree, Inventor 6 SP1 shaded views do
    look very cartoonish (great if this is required but possibly a wee bit
    unprofessional looking compared to IV5.3)
    Regards
    Matt
    Hutchinson
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    *KJohnson

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    11-18-2002 03:52 AM in reply to: *Triton, Mark
    That does not help trails that bleed through. 

     

    Kathy Johnson


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    I believe that if you highlight the view in
    the browser and click on the Update button, it will accomplish the same
    thing--and you should not see any bleed-through when you print after doing the
    Update.

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    I have a part that was created in R6 SP0. 
    In my first drawing using SP1 this morning,  I kept getting the bleed
    through in print preview and paper prints of one of the two shaded views I
    made of that part.  I edited the view and changed to hidden line
    removed and then changed again back to shaded.  That view now previews
    and prints with no bleed through.  I don't know if that process will
    consistently fix any views with bleed through, but you might want to try
    it.

     

            Ed
    R

     

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    Can't
    say for the bleed thru but have to agree, Inventor 6 SP1 shaded views do
    look very cartoonish (great if this is required but possibly a wee bit
    unprofessional looking compared to IV5.3)
    Regards
    Matt
    Hutchinson
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    *Triton, Mark

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    11-18-2002 04:54 AM in reply to: *Triton, Mark
    Dottie -  YES - that trick worked for me (at
    least on the first drawing I tried it on).  Hopefully it will continue to
    clear up this problem on the other drawings!  THANK YOU!!!!!!

     

    Mark


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    I believe that if you highlight the view in
    the browser and click on the Update button, it will accomplish the same
    thing--and you should not see any bleed-through when you print after doing the
    Update.
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