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Adaptive Assembly Same Part
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11-04-2002 03:23 AM
I have a sheet metal part that I need to make adaptive. However the this
part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the same
thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them together.
This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part doesn't
want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the two
bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names for
the adaptive feature to work?
Jerry Chasek
Minden Machine Shop Inc.
part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the same
thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them together.
This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part doesn't
want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the two
bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names for
the adaptive feature to work?
Jerry Chasek
Minden Machine Shop Inc.
*Swartz, Dustin
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11-04-2002 03:29 AM in reply to:
*Chasek, Jerry
Yes, you can not modify only one instance of the part , In other words if
you nplace an adaptive part in your assembly twice any time one changes, the
other will also.
If you have one of those part instances fully constrained the other part
will not be able to adapt either.
"Jerry Chasek" wrote in message
news:65893A38DC1826C3368E7F15F77F724C@in.WebX.maYI adrTaRb...
> I have a sheet metal part that I need to make adaptive. However the this
> part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the same
> thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them together.
> This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
> different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part
doesn't
> want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the two
> bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names for
> the adaptive feature to work?
>
> Jerry Chasek
> Minden Machine Shop Inc.
>
>
>
>
you nplace an adaptive part in your assembly twice any time one changes, the
other will also.
If you have one of those part instances fully constrained the other part
will not be able to adapt either.
"Jerry Chasek"
news:65893A38DC1826C3368E7F15F77F724C@in.WebX.maYI
> I have a sheet metal part that I need to make adaptive. However the this
> part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the same
> thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them together.
> This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
> different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part
doesn't
> want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the two
> bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names for
> the adaptive feature to work?
>
> Jerry Chasek
> Minden Machine Shop Inc.
>
>
>
>
*Swartz, Dustin
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11-04-2002 03:33 AM in reply to:
*Chasek, Jerry
Rather than adaptivity I would use a linked spreadsheet to drive the
dimensions that you are talking about.
Although you could make it work by creating a work plane in your assy as
your adapt to terminator. I will put a quick demo in CF.
"Dustin Swartz" wrote in message
news:C0182DD1627BC83EA103494B04FC6357@in.WebX.maYI adrTaRb...
> Yes, you can not modify only one instance of the part , In other words if
> you nplace an adaptive part in your assembly twice any time one changes,
the
> other will also.
>
> If you have one of those part instances fully constrained the other part
> will not be able to adapt either.
>
>
> "Jerry Chasek" wrote in message
> news:65893A38DC1826C3368E7F15F77F724C@in.WebX.maYI adrTaRb...
> > I have a sheet metal part that I need to make adaptive. However the this
> > part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the
same
> > thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them together.
> > This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
> > different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part
> doesn't
> > want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the
two
> > bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names
for
> > the adaptive feature to work?
> >
> > Jerry Chasek
> > Minden Machine Shop Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
dimensions that you are talking about.
Although you could make it work by creating a work plane in your assy as
your adapt to terminator. I will put a quick demo in CF.
"Dustin Swartz"
news:C0182DD1627BC83EA103494B04FC6357@in.WebX.maYI
> Yes, you can not modify only one instance of the part , In other words if
> you nplace an adaptive part in your assembly twice any time one changes,
the
> other will also.
>
> If you have one of those part instances fully constrained the other part
> will not be able to adapt either.
>
>
> "Jerry Chasek"
> news:65893A38DC1826C3368E7F15F77F724C@in.WebX.maYI
> > I have a sheet metal part that I need to make adaptive. However the this
> > part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the
same
> > thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them together.
> > This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
> > different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part
> doesn't
> > want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the
two
> > bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names
for
> > the adaptive feature to work?
> >
> > Jerry Chasek
> > Minden Machine Shop Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
*Swartz, Dustin
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11-04-2002 03:59 AM in reply to:
*Chasek, Jerry
Ok I posted a file to CF, What I did was pull a work plane 25mm off of the
YZ plane in the origin folder , also I constrained the sweep path sketch to
the center point in the origin folder.
This way the work plane always stays 25 mm from the center point of the
frame. This gives you a 50 mm overlap.
If you look close you will notice that Adaptive Sheet:1 is constrained on 5
Sides where Sheet 2 is only constrained on 3.
Sheet 1 adapts Sheet 2 follows suite
Let me know if you have any questions.
"Dustin Swartz" wrote in message
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BC18DA778880D05A683FDA10BB757EC@in.WebX.maYIadrTaR b...
> Rather than adaptivity I would use a linked spreadsheet to drive the
> dimensions that you are talking about.
>
> Although you could make it work by creating a work plane in your assy as
> your adapt to terminator. I will put a quick demo in CF.
>
>
> "Dustin Swartz" wrote in message
> news:C0182DD1627BC83EA103494B04FC6357@in.WebX.maYI adrTaRb...
> > Yes, you can not modify only one instance of the part , In other words
if
> > you nplace an adaptive part in your assembly twice any time one changes,
> the
> > other will also.
> >
> > If you have one of those part instances fully constrained the other part
> > will not be able to adapt either.
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Chasek" wrote in message
> > news:65893A38DC1826C3368E7F15F77F724C@in.WebX.maYI adrTaRb...
> > > I have a sheet metal part that I need to make adaptive. However the
this
> > > part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the
> same
> > > thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them
together.
> > > This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
> > > different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part
> > doesn't
> > > want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the
> two
> > > bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names
> for
> > > the adaptive feature to work?
> > >
> > > Jerry Chasek
> > > Minden Machine Shop Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
YZ plane in the origin folder , also I constrained the sweep path sketch to
the center point in the origin folder.
This way the work plane always stays 25 mm from the center point of the
frame. This gives you a 50 mm overlap.
If you look close you will notice that Adaptive Sheet:1 is constrained on 5
Sides where Sheet 2 is only constrained on 3.
Sheet 1 adapts Sheet 2 follows suite
Let me know if you have any questions.
"Dustin Swartz"
news
> Rather than adaptivity I would use a linked spreadsheet to drive the
> dimensions that you are talking about.
>
> Although you could make it work by creating a work plane in your assy as
> your adapt to terminator. I will put a quick demo in CF.
>
>
> "Dustin Swartz"
> news:C0182DD1627BC83EA103494B04FC6357@in.WebX.maYI
> > Yes, you can not modify only one instance of the part , In other words
if
> > you nplace an adaptive part in your assembly twice any time one changes,
> the
> > other will also.
> >
> > If you have one of those part instances fully constrained the other part
> > will not be able to adapt either.
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Chasek"
> > news:65893A38DC1826C3368E7F15F77F724C@in.WebX.maYI
> > > I have a sheet metal part that I need to make adaptive. However the
this
> > > part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the
> same
> > > thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them
together.
> > > This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
> > > different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part
> > doesn't
> > > want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the
> two
> > > bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names
> for
> > > the adaptive feature to work?
> > >
> > > Jerry Chasek
> > > Minden Machine Shop Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Chasek, Jerry
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11-04-2002 05:21 AM in reply to:
*Chasek, Jerry
Thanks for the help Dustin! Where is the CF so I can look at the file?
"Jerry Chasek" wrote in message
news:65893A38DC1826C3368E7F15F77F724C@in.WebX.maYI adrTaRb...
> I have a sheet metal part that I need to make adaptive. However the this
> part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the same
> thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them together.
> This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
> different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part
doesn't
> want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the two
> bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names for
> the adaptive feature to work?
>
> Jerry Chasek
> Minden Machine Shop Inc.
>
>
>
>
"Jerry Chasek"
news:65893A38DC1826C3368E7F15F77F724C@in.WebX.maYI
> I have a sheet metal part that I need to make adaptive. However the this
> part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the same
> thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them together.
> This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
> different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part
doesn't
> want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the two
> bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names for
> the adaptive feature to work?
>
> Jerry Chasek
> Minden Machine Shop Inc.
>
>
>
>
*Swartz, Dustin
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11-04-2002 05:29 AM in reply to:
*Chasek, Jerry
WEBBASED CF:
http://discussion.autodesk.com/WebX?14@67.Wd6TaaEb dXF^1@.ee940b5
NTTP CF:
news://discussion.autodesk.com/autodesk.autocad.cu stomer-files
"Jerry Chasek" wrote in message
news:828954EE5162C497C1A3C9F7973A309B@in.WebX.maYI adrTaRb...
> Thanks for the help Dustin! Where is the CF so I can look at the file?
>
> "Jerry Chasek" wrote in message
> news:65893A38DC1826C3368E7F15F77F724C@in.WebX.maYI adrTaRb...
> > I have a sheet metal part that I need to make adaptive. However the this
> > part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the
same
> > thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them together.
> > This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
> > different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part
> doesn't
> > want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the
two
> > bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names
for
> > the adaptive feature to work?
> >
> > Jerry Chasek
> > Minden Machine Shop Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
http://discussion.autodesk.com/WebX?14@67.Wd6TaaEb
NTTP CF:
news://discussion.autodesk.com/autodesk.autocad.cu
"Jerry Chasek"
news:828954EE5162C497C1A3C9F7973A309B@in.WebX.maYI
> Thanks for the help Dustin! Where is the CF so I can look at the file?
>
> "Jerry Chasek"
> news:65893A38DC1826C3368E7F15F77F724C@in.WebX.maYI
> > I have a sheet metal part that I need to make adaptive. However the this
> > part is identical to the other part I need to make it fit. "It's the
same
> > thing"! I just have to overlap them in the center to weld them together.
> > This is the way we make them in the shop and I don't want them to be
> > different parts or left and right pcs. ,the problem is that the part
> doesn't
> > want to adapt to itself. one pan has to stretch some in order for the
two
> > bottoms to be flush. Do I have to save the part as two different names
for
> > the adaptive feature to work?
> >
> > Jerry Chasek
> > Minden Machine Shop Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
*Keller, Kent
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11-04-2002 05:31 AM in reply to:
*Chasek, Jerry
From the weekly FAQ
WEBBASED CF:
http://discussion.autodesk.com/WebX?14@67.Wd6TaaEb dXF^1@.ee940b5
NTTP CF:
news://discussion.autodesk.com/autodesk.autocad.cu stomer-files
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Kent
Member of the Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program
"Jerry Chasek" wrote in message
news:828954EE5162C497C1A3C9F7973A309B@in.WebX.maYI adrTaRb...
> Thanks for the help Dustin! Where is the CF so I can look at the file?
WEBBASED CF:
http://discussion.autodesk.com/WebX?14@67.Wd6TaaEb
NTTP CF:
news://discussion.autodesk.com/autodesk.autocad.cu
--
Kent
Member of the Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program
"Jerry Chasek"
news:828954EE5162C497C1A3C9F7973A309B@in.WebX.maYI
> Thanks for the help Dustin! Where is the CF so I can look at the file?

