Autodesk GIS Design Server

[#1]

Hello,

We are using Autodesk GIS Design Server and have an Autodesk Map application
on top.

We use the Autodesk Map application to draw the features that are in the
Design Server database and we save a .DWG file from that. We now would like
to create MapGuide SDF files from this data - we can do that using either
the Menu/Map/Export to Autodesk MapGuide..., or we can use SDFLoader.

The problem is: we need to put Design Server´s FEAT_NUM into the key column
of the SDF file, but we don´t know how to do that.

Has anyone ever done this?

Thanks,

Fabio

[#2]

Hello Fabio,

I am unable to come up with a direct answer to show you how to be able to
export the contents in a DWG file directly into a SDF using FEAT_NUM from
the G_MASTER table as the key. However, the following information from the
Release Notes of the Autodesk GIS Design Server Provider for Autodesk
MapGuide may interest you:

"The Extension enables Autodesk MapGuide to access spatial and attribute
data directly from a GIS Design Server database through the SDP (spatial
data provider) architecture. This eliminates the requirement of converting
the Autodesk GIS Design Server data to SDF (spatial data file) format before
viewing with Autodesk MapGuide".

Sincerely,
Bruce Argue

Autodesk
Enterprise Support Engineer
APAC

"Fabio Paiano" wrote in message
news:6B85649D8AD36F91B3CA8BE9BE539F61@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hello,
>
> We are using Autodesk GIS Design Server and have an Autodesk Map
application
> on top.
>
> We use the Autodesk Map application to draw the features that are in the
> Design Server database and we save a .DWG file from that. We now would
like
> to create MapGuide SDF files from this data - we can do that using either
> the Menu/Map/Export to Autodesk MapGuide..., or we can use SDFLoader.
>
> The problem is: we need to put Design Server´s FEAT_NUM into the key
column
> of the SDF file, but we don´t know how to do that.
>
> Has anyone ever done this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fabio
>
>
>

[#3]

Hello Fabio,
with the current product there is no way to create this sdf keys
automatically. The sdf files can use the key from Maps internal object data
or from external database links.This is the same if you export directly from
Map or use the sdfloader. The DesignServer Extension does not create this
additional links in Map, but keeps the ones to the oracle database.
I think the best approach would be to create a routine where the Extension
renders features in Map and fills up an object data table at the same time
including the FEAT_NUM value of the objects.

regards,
Dirk Doerrenberg
Autodesk Product Support GIS
Europe, Middle East, Africa


"Bruce Argue [Autodesk]" wrote in message
news:C0213C6429BFE1D7FD58DD309A93C117@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hello Fabio,
>
> I am unable to come up with a direct answer to show you how to be able to
> export the contents in a DWG file directly into a SDF using FEAT_NUM from
> the G_MASTER table as the key. However, the following information from
the
> Release Notes of the Autodesk GIS Design Server Provider for Autodesk
> MapGuide may interest you:
>
> "The Extension enables Autodesk MapGuide to access spatial and attribute
> data directly from a GIS Design Server database through the SDP (spatial
> data provider) architecture. This eliminates the requirement of
converting
> the Autodesk GIS Design Server data to SDF (spatial data file) format
before
> viewing with Autodesk MapGuide".
>
> Sincerely,
> Bruce Argue
>
> Autodesk
> Enterprise Support Engineer
> APAC
>
> "Fabio Paiano" wrote in message
> news:6B85649D8AD36F91B3CA8BE9BE539F61@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Hello,
> >
> > We are using Autodesk GIS Design Server and have an Autodesk Map
> application
> > on top.
> >
> > We use the Autodesk Map application to draw the features that are in the
> > Design Server database and we save a .DWG file from that. We now would
> like
> > to create MapGuide SDF files from this data - we can do that using
either
> > the Menu/Map/Export to Autodesk MapGuide..., or we can use SDFLoader.
> >
> > The problem is: we need to put Design Server´s FEAT_NUM into the key
> column
> > of the SDF file, but we don´t know how to do that.
> >
> > Has anyone ever done this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Fabio
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[#4]

Thanks a lot!

But I wonder... In Autodesk Map 5 WITH the "Extension for Design Server"
installed, you can open the Properties window for a given object and see a
lot of Design Server´s information, like:
Feature Number
Network
Layer
Version
Feature Code
This information is somehow stored into the DWG, because if I save a DWG
file and open in Autodesk Map WITHOUT creating a connection to the server,
I´m still able to see these "Design Server Properties".

So I wonder: there is no way of reading this info, either with SDF Loader,
or with Map "Export to MapGuide" menu entry?

It would be a lot better for me... I would prefer NOT working with MapGuide
Data Extension for Design Server, if possible. For performance reasons, I
would prefer working with SDF layers....

Of course, if everything else fails, I can use SDF Toolkit, and create a
program that reads the database directly and generates the SDF files... but
I really would prefer if there were a faster and cheaper way of doing that.

I´m open to any suggestions...

"Dirk Doerrenberg [Autodesk]" escreveu na
mensagem news:949E93D42312F4C63BB0F8683DFA8600@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hello Fabio,
> with the current product there is no way to create this sdf keys
> automatically. The sdf files can use the key from Maps internal object
data
> or from external database links.This is the same if you export directly
from
> Map or use the sdfloader. The DesignServer Extension does not create this
> additional links in Map, but keeps the ones to the oracle database.
> I think the best approach would be to create a routine where the Extension
> renders features in Map and fills up an object data table at the same time
> including the FEAT_NUM value of the objects.
>
> regards,
> Dirk Doerrenberg
> Autodesk Product Support GIS
> Europe, Middle East, Africa
>
>
> "Bruce Argue [Autodesk]" wrote in
message
> news:C0213C6429BFE1D7FD58DD309A93C117@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Hello Fabio,
> >
> > I am unable to come up with a direct answer to show you how to be able
to
> > export the contents in a DWG file directly into a SDF using FEAT_NUM
from
> > the G_MASTER table as the key. However, the following information from
> the
> > Release Notes of the Autodesk GIS Design Server Provider for Autodesk
> > MapGuide may interest you:
> >
> > "The Extension enables Autodesk MapGuide to access spatial and attribute
> > data directly from a GIS Design Server database through the SDP (spatial
> > data provider) architecture. This eliminates the requirement of
> converting
> > the Autodesk GIS Design Server data to SDF (spatial data file) format
> before
> > viewing with Autodesk MapGuide".
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Bruce Argue
> >
> > Autodesk
> > Enterprise Support Engineer
> > APAC
> >
> > "Fabio Paiano" wrote in message
> > news:6B85649D8AD36F91B3CA8BE9BE539F61@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > We are using Autodesk GIS Design Server and have an Autodesk Map
> > application
> > > on top.
> > >
> > > We use the Autodesk Map application to draw the features that are in
the
> > > Design Server database and we save a .DWG file from that. We now would
> > like
> > > to create MapGuide SDF files from this data - we can do that using
> either
> > > the Menu/Map/Export to Autodesk MapGuide..., or we can use SDFLoader.
> > >
> > > The problem is: we need to put Design Server´s FEAT_NUM into the key
> > column
> > > of the SDF file, but we don´t know how to do that.
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever done this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Fabio
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[#5]

Hello Fabio,
I gave this a test and can reproduce it as you say. The properties are
displayed in Autocad but you cannot access them from the properties display
of the sdf export dialog. The export does only take the standard object
properties of Autocad. When you save the dwg the sdfloader will only
recognize unknown proxy objects.

I think there are mainly two possibilities. Either create the objects via
the Sdf Toolkit, or write some application in Map that will query the key
from DesignServer and store it in an Object Data Table. The second
possibility looks easier to me.

--
Dirk Doerrenberg
Autodesk Product Support GIS
Europe, Middle East, Africa
"Fabio Paiano" wrote in message
news:335D837A4EB4199883680646BDCBD54C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Thanks a lot!
>
> But I wonder... In Autodesk Map 5 WITH the "Extension for Design Server"
> installed, you can open the Properties window for a given object and see a
> lot of Design Server´s information, like:
> Feature Number
> Network
> Layer
> Version
> Feature Code
> This information is somehow stored into the DWG, because if I save a DWG
> file and open in Autodesk Map WITHOUT creating a connection to the server,
> I´m still able to see these "Design Server Properties".
>
> So I wonder: there is no way of reading this info, either with SDF Loader,
> or with Map "Export to MapGuide" menu entry?
>
> It would be a lot better for me... I would prefer NOT working with
MapGuide
> Data Extension for Design Server, if possible. For performance reasons, I
> would prefer working with SDF layers....
>
> Of course, if everything else fails, I can use SDF Toolkit, and create a
> program that reads the database directly and generates the SDF files...
but
> I really would prefer if there were a faster and cheaper way of doing
that.
>
> I´m open to any suggestions...
>
> "Dirk Doerrenberg [Autodesk]" escreveu
na
> mensagem news:949E93D42312F4C63BB0F8683DFA8600@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Hello Fabio,
> > with the current product there is no way to create this sdf keys
> > automatically. The sdf files can use the key from Maps internal object
> data
> > or from external database links.This is the same if you export directly
> from
> > Map or use the sdfloader. The DesignServer Extension does not create
this
> > additional links in Map, but keeps the ones to the oracle database.
> > I think the best approach would be to create a routine where the
Extension
> > renders features in Map and fills up an object data table at the same
time
> > including the FEAT_NUM value of the objects.
> >
> > regards,
> > Dirk Doerrenberg
> > Autodesk Product Support GIS
> > Europe, Middle East, Africa
> >
> >
> > "Bruce Argue [Autodesk]" wrote in
> message
> > news:C0213C6429BFE1D7FD58DD309A93C117@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Hello Fabio,
> > >
> > > I am unable to come up with a direct answer to show you how to be able
> to
> > > export the contents in a DWG file directly into a SDF using FEAT_NUM
> from
> > > the G_MASTER table as the key. However, the following information
from
> > the
> > > Release Notes of the Autodesk GIS Design Server Provider for Autodesk
> > > MapGuide may interest you:
> > >
> > > "The Extension enables Autodesk MapGuide to access spatial and
attribute
> > > data directly from a GIS Design Server database through the SDP
(spatial
> > > data provider) architecture. This eliminates the requirement of
> > converting
> > > the Autodesk GIS Design Server data to SDF (spatial data file) format
> > before
> > > viewing with Autodesk MapGuide".
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Bruce Argue
> > >
> > > Autodesk
> > > Enterprise Support Engineer
> > > APAC
> > >
> > > "Fabio Paiano" wrote in message
> > > news:6B85649D8AD36F91B3CA8BE9BE539F61@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > We are using Autodesk GIS Design Server and have an Autodesk Map
> > > application
> > > > on top.
> > > >
> > > > We use the Autodesk Map application to draw the features that are in
> the
> > > > Design Server database and we save a .DWG file from that. We now
would
> > > like
> > > > to create MapGuide SDF files from this data - we can do that using
> > either
> > > > the Menu/Map/Export to Autodesk MapGuide..., or we can use
SDFLoader.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is: we need to put Design Server´s FEAT_NUM into the key
> > > column
> > > > of the SDF file, but we don´t know how to do that.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone ever done this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Fabio
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>