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BIM in 2009 (specifica
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07-10-2009 07:50 AM
Just wanted to open up the discussion and feel out whether any Facility
Managers were starting to adopt BIM yet?
(also, if you're adopting, are you only doing BIM on new projects, or
are you rebuilding existing facilities in a model?)
Our parent organization began a mandate in 2007 for larger projects,
but, the use of BIM on all projects by the January 1st of next year.
I'm getting my first big project since then underway right now.
While our parent organization doesn't specify a particular format, I've
chosen the Revit family of products for my campus and am in the midst of
writing a BIM standard right now.
I've downloaded documents from the NBIMS, USACE, GSA, a model content
matrix, data exchange standards (IFC) and am ordering some AIA documents
(B101, A295, E202, Add 200.2 C106, E201, ConDoc200.2, ConDoc301).
But, of course, most of that is very general and very overwhelming. So,
in addition, I've been looking specifically for information on Revit
Standards. HOK posted their Revit standard a couple of years ago, but, I
think they were just starting it at that point so it might be quite a
bit out of date.
The next step has been talking to some of our local contractors about
what they're using as guidelines in-house so far.
As with my CAD Standards, I want to be specific enough to get
reproducible and reusable documents, but, I don't wish to greatly
interfere with established workflows. BIM is a very different animal
than CAD, trying to standardize it is much more about outlining the
design process, rather than outlining the state of the deliverable.
They've been very generous with their responses so far, and I appreciate
the feedback. But, it looks like most of them are not using a set of
'BIM Standards' or 'Revit Standards' so far, they're trying to keep
things out of the box as they ramp up, and just try to control
information with a good and consistent folder structure. I'm just hoping
to find inspiration about what is important and what is not.
I'm going to continue to ask around, and I'd appreciate links or emails
with any resources anyone can offer. Either from firms with a Revit
Standard or established guidelines, or introductions to other building
operators who are investigating or adopting BIM.
I know BYU is using Revit in their space management department, but, I'm
not sure if they're using it for new construction yet.
Melanie Perry
***not all who wander are lost***
http://augi.com/autocad
http://mistressofthedorkness.blogspot.com/2009/07/
Managers were starting to adopt BIM yet?
(also, if you're adopting, are you only doing BIM on new projects, or
are you rebuilding existing facilities in a model?)
Our parent organization began a mandate in 2007 for larger projects,
but, the use of BIM on all projects by the January 1st of next year.
I'm getting my first big project since then underway right now.
While our parent organization doesn't specify a particular format, I've
chosen the Revit family of products for my campus and am in the midst of
writing a BIM standard right now.
I've downloaded documents from the NBIMS, USACE, GSA, a model content
matrix, data exchange standards (IFC) and am ordering some AIA documents
(B101, A295, E202, Add 200.2 C106, E201, ConDoc200.2, ConDoc301).
But, of course, most of that is very general and very overwhelming. So,
in addition, I've been looking specifically for information on Revit
Standards. HOK posted their Revit standard a couple of years ago, but, I
think they were just starting it at that point so it might be quite a
bit out of date.
The next step has been talking to some of our local contractors about
what they're using as guidelines in-house so far.
As with my CAD Standards, I want to be specific enough to get
reproducible and reusable documents, but, I don't wish to greatly
interfere with established workflows. BIM is a very different animal
than CAD, trying to standardize it is much more about outlining the
design process, rather than outlining the state of the deliverable.
They've been very generous with their responses so far, and I appreciate
the feedback. But, it looks like most of them are not using a set of
'BIM Standards' or 'Revit Standards' so far, they're trying to keep
things out of the box as they ramp up, and just try to control
information with a good and consistent folder structure. I'm just hoping
to find inspiration about what is important and what is not.
I'm going to continue to ask around, and I'd appreciate links or emails
with any resources anyone can offer. Either from firms with a Revit
Standard or established guidelines, or introductions to other building
operators who are investigating or adopting BIM.
I know BYU is using Revit in their space management department, but, I'm
not sure if they're using it for new construction yet.
Melanie Perry
***not all who wander are lost***
http://augi.com/autocad
http://mistressofthedorkness.blogspot.com/2009/07/
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11-13-2009 05:59 AM in reply to:
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The discussion about BIM <-> Revit <-> FM (Facility Management) is urgent. My engineering company is along with a Architect company design a 6200m² educational facility. We decided to work with Revit. Now we are aasked how the model can be used by the contractor and later on the owner for FM use. We use Revit Architectural, Revit Structural and Revit MEP 2010 now.
Are any FM software package that can import rvit model to be used.
Thanks
Ragnar Hauksson
Are any FM software package that can import rvit model to be used.
Thanks
Ragnar Hauksson
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11-13-2009 06:46 AM in reply to:
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Well, the currently defunct FMDesktop could import Revit Architecture
files (but, not Revit MEP).
I've heard that Archibus is beginning to support Revit linking, but, I
haven't actually spoken to anyone who has *done it*. I just keep getting
links to the same whitepaper (
http://www.archibus.com/document.cfm?id=15 ). I'm not sure if they can
bring in information from MEP yet.
Obviously, as I work in Engineering, I'm a bit more concerned about the
Building Systems than I am the walls.
So, for now at least, I'll just be using Revit MEP to get information
out of the models.
Melanie Perry
***not all who wander are lost***
http://augi.com/autocad
http://mistressofthedorkness.blogspot.com
ragnar@almenna.is wrote:
> The discussion about BIM <-> Revit <-> FM (Facility Management) is urgent. My engineering company is along with a Architect company design a 6200m² educational facility. We decided to work with Revit. Now we are aasked how the model can be used by the contractor and later on the owner for FM use. We use Revit Architectural, Revit Structural and Revit MEP 2010 now.
> Are any FM software package that can import rvit model to be used.
>
> Thanks
> Ragnar Hauksson
files (but, not Revit MEP).
I've heard that Archibus is beginning to support Revit linking, but, I
haven't actually spoken to anyone who has *done it*. I just keep getting
links to the same whitepaper (
http://www.archibus.com/document.cfm?id=15 ). I'm not sure if they can
bring in information from MEP yet.
Obviously, as I work in Engineering, I'm a bit more concerned about the
Building Systems than I am the walls.
So, for now at least, I'll just be using Revit MEP to get information
out of the models.
Melanie Perry
***not all who wander are lost***
http://augi.com/autocad
http://mistressofthedorkness.blogspot.com
ragnar@almenna.is wrote:
> The discussion about BIM <-> Revit <-> FM (Facility Management) is urgent. My engineering company is along with a Architect company design a 6200m² educational facility. We decided to work with Revit. Now we are aasked how the model can be used by the contractor and later on the owner for FM use. We use Revit Architectural, Revit Structural and Revit MEP 2010 now.
> Are any FM software package that can import rvit model to be used.
>
> Thanks
> Ragnar Hauksson
