toilet stall doors in door schedule?

[durrett]

I'm creating a door schedule, but when I do, it puts in the toilet stall doors in the schedule too.
How can I avoid that?

[Anonymous]

Put the toilet stall doors on a different layer from the one used for room doors, if you are not already doing that. Then use a layer filter on your schedule that will include the layers that have doors that you want to schedule and exclude doors that you do not want to schedule.

This can be done when you first insert the schedule, or you can modify the layer filter (the default is "*" - all layers) by selecting the schedule, right-clicking and selecting Table Properties... from the context menu. The Layer Wildcard Filter is near the bottom of the dialog.

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[Anonymous]

To add to what David mentioned. Put the toilet doors on a separate layer
and in the schedule add the filter A-Door* to only accept doors that have
A-Door in the layer name. I tend to put all doors on A-Door so I hard code
the filter to A-Door.

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[Anonymous]

Not an endorsement but, if you use the layouts in design center, those
partitions and doors are placed on A-Flor-Tptn. Thereby segregating them
for you? Can't say the layouts will work for you, but perhaps "modified"
ones will?

Steve

"durrett" wrote in message
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I'm creating a door schedule, but when I do, it puts in the toilet stall
doors in the schedule too.
How can I avoid that?

[durrett]

I tried what you suggested, but I'm doing this in a file that has the plan xref'd in. Is that going to create a problem?

If I xref it in, and change the layer filter, then it doesn't work at all. If I xref it in, and don't change the filter, then I get a complete schedule which has everthing including the toilet doors.

It works perfect if i place the schedule in the same file as the plan itself. I'm trying to avoid this, though.

Any thoughts?

[Anonymous]

then use *A-Door*

This will allow xref layers also.

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[durrett]

that's what we tried, but if we're in the file that has the plan xrefd in, and use *A-door*, then all we get is the title bar in the schedule.

[Anonymous]

Are you scanning XREFs and/or Block References in your schedule? Select the schedule, right-click and pick Table Properties... from the context menu. Make certain that Scan Xrefs is checked.

If that does not work, try including the layer on which the XREF is inserted in your layer filter. I had done that previously in a test file, but now find that it is working without it.

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[Anonymous]

Do you have Scan Xref checked in the Schedules properties. *A-Door* works
fine for me.

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[Anonymous]

If I create the schedule and the filter when I insert the schedule, no
amount of playing displays data. On the other hand, if I add the schedule,
no filter and then after the scheduled exists, add a filter it works! Any
chance this is what happens for you?

It could also be that you're selection set is getting invalidated, are you
using an xref layer and locking it?

Steve


"durrett" wrote in message news:f0f3d43.3@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
I tried what you suggested, but I'm doing this in a file that has the plan
xref'd in. Is that going to create a problem?
If I xref it in, and change the layer filter, then it doesn't work at all.
If I xref it in, and don't change the filter, then I get a complete schedule
which has everthing including the toilet doors.
It works perfect if i place the schedule in the same file as the plan
itself. I'm trying to avoid this, though.
Any thoughts?

[durrett]

Sorry to keep bugging you with this...

Yes, we have the scan xref box checked.
But still, it doesn't give us any information in the schedule.
If we leave the *, then it creates the schedule which includes all door and even toilet doors, but if we type in A-door, then we get nothing.

[Anonymous]

I see what you are doing wrong. The bug in ADT is that you must leave the
filter to * until after you select the objects to be included in the
schedule. Then edit the Schedule properties and change them to the correct
filter. Sorry I didn't pick up on this earlier.

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[Anonymous]

Here is the deal, everyone had a piece of the answer, and now I have remembered why my settings were the way they were: You can set the layer filter initially, but it must include the layer on which the XREF is inserted, or the XREF will not be able to be added to the selection set, and you will get no doors. If your XREF is on layer 0 and your doors on |A-Door, then 0,*A-Door will work. Leaving it at "*" initially performs the same task, but will also get any other doors in the drawing.

Once the XREF is in the selection set, you can reset the filter and not include the XREF layer, provided that you do not ever use the Selection>Select Again option. If there is nothing else in the drawing file that matches the layer filter, Select Again will "fail" as you will have a null selection set, and the XREF will remain selected. (Interestingly, if you omit the XREF layer after it has been selected, the Selection>Remove function will not work as it filters out the XREF.)

If you want to have one sheet with XREFs of multiple floors and have the schedules separated into separate schedules by floor, insert each floor's XREF on a distinct layer and then filter only for that layer (and the nested doors) for each floor's schedule.

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[durrett]

Ok...we put the filter to *, selected the plan...it created a schedule with all of the doors (including toilet doors).
We then went and changed the filter to A-door and it immediately removed everything from the schedule except for the title bar.
Ahhh!

[Anonymous]

See my post just above yours for more detail, but make certain that you keep the * in front of *A-Door, or it will not pick up the doors in your XREF. If you set the initial filter to *A-Door,, you will get everything the first time, without the toilet room doors.

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[durrett]

Would it be asking too much for me to call you?
We've tried everything listed above, and it's still not working.

[Anonymous]

Can you post a ZIP of the relevant files (base drawing being XREFed and sheet file) to the Customer Files newsgroup? If the file is really large, or the design is of a "sensitive" nature that you would prefer not to post, you could WBLOCK out a less sensitive portion of the base drawing (and exclude everything but walls, doors and tags). Post back here when you do, and I will try to take a look at it.

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David Koch

[durrett]

Hi David.
thanks for your help.
I have posted the plan file in the Customer Files newsgroup.
With that plan, I can get the door schedule to work properly.
Unfortunately, when I xref it in to another file, the doors don't show up in the schedule.
Any help is greatly appreciated!

[Anonymous]

Sad to say but it works for me when I xref and add a schedule to the file.
You must be doing something wrong. You need to Xref the plan, Insert a
Schedule table (without changing the filter), Make sure Scan Xref Is
CHECKMARKED, Select xref and insert schedule. Grip edit the schedule and
change the Table Property filter to read *A-Door*.

Viola I see all you doors. Not all of them have PSD attached.

Do you really input all the dims for door size and frame depth yourself?
That goes against the whole automation idea. I have a program to do all of
this for you if you are interested. Contact me if you want.

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[Anonymous]

It worked for me as well. I posted a ZIP with the sheet file I created, including the schedule, under your original post to Customer Files so you can see what settings I used. Hope that helps you find the problem.

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